Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[Tinhampton]

so why is she calling for a recount?

The tightness of the official results.
EDIT: Also what the Monitor said 20 seconds after me.

[USS Monitor]

so why is she calling for a recount?

Because she doesn't want Trump to be president.

[Aclion]

so why is she calling for a recount?

For attention

[The Lone Alliance]

Technically he doesn't win until the electoral college votes.

Yes and the electoral college cold overturn the result. It's what they were created for. Donald Trump is neither fit or qualified to be President and there is evidence he's already breaking the law before even taking office. They have a responsibility to overturn the result and give the election to the popular vote winner.

And then Congress refuses to verify the Electoral College and puts Trump in anyway because they're not going to risk civil war.

[Shamhnan Insir]

so why is she calling for a recount?

There is a legal stipulation that allows a recount within certain margins.

Am I right in thinking these were states with electronic voting machines?

[Balkenreich]

so why is she calling for a recount?

Because she doesn't want Trump to be president.

Well thats a shit reason all in all, considering he won by tens of thousands in the states.

[The Lone Alliance]

so why is she calling for a recount?

It's a way to raise money for the Green party and to try and poach more votes in the next election.

[Balkenreich]

so why is she calling for a recount?

There is a legal stipulation that allows a recount within certain margins.

Am I right in thinking these were states with electronic voting machines?

Michigan as far as i could remember had paper ballots, but thats for my district i think.

[Cannot think of a name]

I guess. But so far he's always started with extreme rhetoric, and gradually as it came closer to saying anything binding, moved to just right of center.

Ever play hold'em? The guy raising pre-flop the most is the first to fold to a probing bet on the river.

Of all of the efforts to assure me that Trump is a paper tiger a half assed Texas Hold'em metaphor garnered from 15 minutes of late night sports channels is the least comforting.

[USS Monitor]

Because she doesn't want Trump to be president.

Well thats a shit reason all in all, considering he won by tens of thousands in the states.

Tough shit. The margin's close enough that it's legal to demand a recount.

[Tinhampton]

Because she doesn't want Trump to be president.

Well thats a shit reason all in all, considering he won by tens of thousands in the states.

Look at the percentage figures instead of the raw numbers.

[Balkenreich]

so why is she calling for a recount?

It's a way to raise money for the Green party and to try and poach more votes in the next election.

The greens are lucky that anyone made the mistake of voting for them in the first place.

[Aclion]

Well thats a shit reason all in all, considering he won by tens of thousands in the states.

Tough shit. The margin's close enough that it's legal to demand a recount.

So she's wasting time and money that could otherwise be put to other purposes but that's okay because she's legally entitled to?

[Balkenreich]

Tough shit. The margin's close enough that it's legal to demand a recount.

So she's wasting time and money that could otherwise be put to other purposes but that's okay because she's legally entitled to?

greens are not really the most financially sound people.

[The Lone Alliance]

Tough shit. The margin's close enough that it's legal to demand a recount.

So she's wasting time and money that could otherwise be put to other purposes but that's okay because she's legally entitled to?

Yes it's her right to raise money, but it's most likely going to show that Trump still wins, just meaning they'll have blown all their money and hope for nothing.

[San Lumen]

Yes and the electoral college cold overturn the result. It's what they were created for. Donald Trump is neither fit or qualified to be President and there is evidence he's already breaking the law before even taking office. They have a responsibility to overturn the result and give the election to the popular vote winner.

And then Congress refuses to verify the Electoral College and puts Trump in anyway because they're not going to risk civil war.

There wouldnt be civil war. Refusing to verify the electoral college because it did its job would spark a constitutional crisis. If you dont verify the electoral college you have no President. You'd have to declare the electoral college result invalid and then each state can only have a single vote and with the polarization in Congress I have severe doubts they'd ever be able to pick a winner.

[Arana]

The reason she's raising money is that A) the margin is close enough to justify a recount, and B) there's suspicion that electronic voting machines could have been tampered with in those three states.

Regardless of who you supported for president, I fail to see why anyone would oppose counting again. It doesn't cost you, personally, anything, and the integrity of our elections is the most important thing by far.

[Aclion]

The reason she's raising money is that A) the margin is close enough to justify a recount, and B) there's suspicion that electronic voting machines could have been tampered with in those three states.

Regardless of who you supported for president, I fail to see why anyone would oppose counting again. It doesn't cost you, personally, anything, and the integrity of our elections is the most important thing by far.

Ah so suddenly "integrity of elections" is a valid issue again.

[Cannot think of a name]

She's taking one for the team.

It's already starting, the facebook shares, the muttering. "All by exactly 1%..." etc etc, some hastily assembled math about Florida.

Give this two more years and there'll be another 'jet fuel can't melt steel beams'...just need a concise way to frame some state's election. And because no one with standing could contest the results there's always that "We'll never know...so now I'll continue with the conspiracy as if that verifies it."

So she's going to jump down that rabbit hole, fall on this grenade, whatever your metaphor of choice is, for the team. She has the standing and kickstarted the funding, the audit will be done. The results in all likelihood won't change. But now in two years when your friend wants to claim that Trump didn't really win when Trump is doing something stupid and you're frustrated because that something stupid is serious but you know that they'll just deligitimize the lot of you as conspiracy theorists because of it you can go, "Look, they did an audit. Now, seriously. He's trying to use Gatorade to revitalize crops. Fucking focus."

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Because she doesn't want Trump to be president.

Well thats a shit reason all in all, considering he won by tens of thousands in the states.

And she won by millions nationally.
The recount is only in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin I believe, all of which Trump only won by one point or less.

[USS Monitor]

Tough shit. The margin's close enough that it's legal to demand a recount.

So she's wasting time and money that could otherwise be put to other purposes but that's okay because she's legally entitled to?

It's not a huge expense in the grand scheme of things, and there's a legitimate reason why recounts are allowed in close elections. It is a way to ensure the democratic process works fairly and everyone's vote is counted correctly.

If we're going to bitch at every time someone wastes money re-checking things for politically motivated reasons, let's talk about the Benghazi investigations or the amount of time and money that was wasted on combing through Hillary's emails.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I really don't see a recount doing much of anything, but more power to them I guess.

[Arana]

The reason she's raising money is that A) the margin is close enough to justify a recount, and B) there's suspicion that electronic voting machines could have been tampered with in those three states.

Regardless of who you supported for president, I fail to see why anyone would oppose counting again. It doesn't cost you, personally, anything, and the integrity of our elections is the most important thing by far.

Ah so suddenly "integrity of elections" is a valid issue again.

It always was a valid issue. Both sides do this every election.

[San Lumen]

I really don't see a recount doing much of anything, but more power to them I guess.

As a candidate Stein has the legal right to ask for a recount.

[The Lone Alliance]

And then Congress refuses to verify the Electoral College and puts Trump in anyway because they're not going to risk civil war.

There wouldnt be civil war. Refusing to verify the electoral college because it did its job would spark a constitutional crisis. If you dont verify the electoral college you have no President. You'd have to declare the electoral college result invalid and then each state can only have a single vote and with the polarization in Congress I have severe doubts they'd ever be able to pick a winner.

But they'll never pick Hillary Clinton.