Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[Knockturn Alley]

1. No, there is not, yet it is preferred.
2. Sure, that explains why so many of his business ventures have gone bankrupt or got ran into the ground, because he's good at his job.
3. He plans on making a Climate Change denier the head of the EPA, make Newt Gingrich Secretary of State, and Sarah Palin Interior Secretary, and that only a few of the people he plans to fill his Cabinet with.

The third is the most important. His policies and that of his cabinet would destroy the Environment and the planet. He must not and cannot be allowed to become President. The EC and Congress must stop him for the sake of the planet.

lol you must be the least self-aware person I've met online

[San Lumen]

And what mass chaos would there be?

Yeah I'm sure the whole country wouldn't react to a losing candidate being elected president completely undermining the legal system

It would not be undermining the system.

[The Two Jerseys]

Not being able to walk has nothing to do with being fit to be president. And I think his motive for entering WW2 was to stop the Nazis and protect people (I'm not an expert on FDR, so forgive me if I'm wrong.)

FDR declared war on Japan because of Pearl Harbor. Germany was the one who dragged the U.S. into Europe by invoking their alliance with Japan.

Before Pearl, FDR was also doing everything to help Britain short of actually shooting at Germans.

Trump, on the other hand, said some things.

[Ebliania]

Millions of people would be fucking furious and not accept her as president because it would have proven Trumps "the system is rigged" rhetoric entirely right.

It would be perfectly legal and it would not have been rigged.

Who the fuck cares?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And what mass chaos would there be?

Millions of people would be fucking furious and not accept her as president because it would have proven Trumps "the system is rigged" rhetoric entirely right.

You can't "rig" a system which was specifically engineered over the last century to be precisely the kind of system it is now.

[Calladan]

You have no idea what your talking about. Equality means everything. My country just elected a demagogue and the country as i know it may not exist in several years.

It's only 4-8 years.

What the fuck do you think Trump can do in 4 to 8 years that can make the U.S. collapse?

Haven't some people argued that the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999 was the start and the trigger of a massive period of deregulation that almost certainly lead to the global economic meltdown that began in 2007.

Which (if my maths hasn't deserted me this late at night) is a period of just about eight years or so?

Just saying

[Tobuel]

1. No, there is not, yet it is preferred.
2. Sure, that explains why so many of his business ventures have gone bankrupt or got ran into the ground, because he's good at his job.
3. He plans on making a Climate Change denier the head of the EPA, make Newt Gingrich Secretary of State, and Sarah Palin Interior Secretary, and that only a few of the people he plans to fill his Cabinet with.

The third is the most important. His policies and that of his cabinet would destroy the Environment and the planet. He must not and cannot be allowed to become President. The EC and Congress must stop him for the sake of the planet.

"For the sake of the planet."
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[Telconi]

You continue to express your opinions as facts... they aren't...

The EC totally has the power to overturn it, and they should, Trump is inexperienced in politics, a crappy businessman, and is planning on filling his staff with the worst people.

When you say "they should" what you really mean is "I think they should because I care more about myself than America" that's called expressing an opinion as fact...

[Balkenreich]

FDR declared war on Japan because of Pearl Harbor. Germany was the one who dragged the U.S. into Europe by invoking their alliance with Japan.

Before Pearl, FDR was also doing everything to help Britain short of actually shooting at Germans.

Trump, on the other hand, said some things.

But muh feelings.

[Valrifell]

Yeah I'm sure the whole country wouldn't react to a losing candidate being elected president completely undermining the legal system

It would not be undermining the system.

It wouldn't but that, to me, only underscores how shitty the system is. If Clinton is going to win in such an unquestionably scummy way, better not to win.

[San Lumen]

It would be perfectly legal and it would not have been rigged.

Who the fuck cares?

Well i care. I care about the future of Democracy and actually having a planet to live on.

[Herskerstad]

I know, and that is why I didn't vote for him but we lost and beyond that we dont have the power to do anything else and undermining the electoral collage is not the answer

He should be stopped from taking office and the Electoral College and the Congress if they truly cared about the country and the planet would do that.

You know what? Fuck it, since you are die hard on feeling miserable.

Yes, Clinton truly has a chance if the electoral college would just vote with their hearts. Because everyone aside from Trump has a heart, we should appeal to the interracial community so that Love Trumps Hate, 4 million voices cannot be wrong. Hillary should be president and Laci Green the VP so that woman power can fill our hearts with hope and change. Everyone should take to the street and riot hard enough and wreck cities, like they have, that voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, and when asked why we overturn the system we will just say we are doing this on behalf of all and that black lives matters. Since we are also by our conscience superseding the rights of others, lets also re-educate them as we expand the definition of civil rights to give a more predetermined outcome. If just we march hard enough, shout hard enough and hope hard enough then it will come true and the planet will be saved.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Millions of people would be fucking furious and not accept her as president because it would have proven Trumps "the system is rigged" rhetoric entirely right.

It would be perfectly legal and it would not have been rigged.

Sure it would be legal, people would still be mad.

Millions of people would be fucking furious and not accept her as president because it would have proven Trumps "the system is rigged" rhetoric entirely right.

You can't "rig" a system which was specifically engineered over the last century to be precisely the kind of system it is now.

I don't think Trump supporters would see it that way.

[Sciongrad]

I don't think supporters of this movement fully understand the consequences. Not only would Hillary Clinton refuse the presidency if she won this way, but even if she did try, that would almost certainly cause a civil war and permanently undo American democracy. You think Republicans will just say "oh, well, the Electoral College has spoken! I guess Hillary is president"? I wept when Hillary lost but this is an idiotic idea.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's only 4-8 years.

What the fuck do you think Trump can do in 4 to 8 years that can make the U.S. collapse?

Haven't some people argued that the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999 was the start and the trigger of a massive period of deregulation that almost certainly lead to the global economic meltdown that began in 2007.

Which (if my maths hasn't deserted me this late at night) is a period of just about eight years or so?

Just saying

I'm not a believer in a single-cause creating a rippling butterfly effect myself.

And there is plenty to blame for the 2007 crisis.

[Senkaku]

He had enough of an idea of what he was doing to beat the entire political establishment and media.

He generated free airtime for himself by saying every bigoted or vacuous thing that passed through his head, got caught by a wave of populist anger that frankly I doubt he was expecting, and then coasted on the RNC's ground game and free media attention to victory, and is now surrounded by a cabal of the same old boy establishment figures he promised to burn out. But that has nothing to do with his business acumen, really.

Also, a loan of a million dollars is not a massive amount of money, especially in the New York real estate business.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-pres ... oan-228709
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fac ... is-father/
Ol' Daddy Trump was propping Donald up for quite some time there with a little more cash than Donny has let on.

Also, he's refused to take a salary as president.

Seems like the least he could do.

And I'm sorry, but "a billion dollars, tops" is not a lot of money?

[/quote]
Sweetheart, billionaires a dime a fuckin' dozen these days. There are a lot of them. I didn't say he wasn't rich, I said he wasn't a fucking business genius worth countless gazillions.

[New haven america]

FDR was an amazing President.

Warmonger. Couldn't walk. Obviously unfit to be President.

Actually, false.

The US was actually pretty isolationist in the early-mid 1900's, that includes WWI (We were attacked by Germany) and WWII (Japan attacked us and Germany declared war on us). Also, so what if he couldn't walk? At least he had prior governmental experience.

Anything else you'd like to share?

[Kravanica]

Who the fuck cares?

Well i care. I care about the future of Democracy and actually having a planet to live on.

Trump is going to sworn in. In 4 years we will still have a planet and still have democracy.

[Ebliania]

Who the fuck cares?

Well i care. I care about the future of Democracy and actually having a planet to live on.

0/10

have you even seen the riots lately imagine that turned up to 11

[San Lumen]

He should be stopped from taking office and the Electoral College and the Congress if they truly cared about the country and the planet would do that.

You know what? Fuck it, since you are die hard on feeling miserable.

Yes, Clinton truly has a chance if the electoral college would just vote with their hearts. Because everyone aside from Trump has a heart, we should appeal to the interracial community so that Love Trumps Hate, 4 million voices cannot be wrong. Hillary should be president and Laci Green the VP so that woman power can fill our hearts with hope and change. Everyone should take to the street and riot hard enough and wreck cities, like they have, that voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, and when asked why we overturn the system we will just say we are doing this on behalf of all and that black lives matters. Since we are also by our conscience superseding the rights of others, lets also re-educate them as we expand the definition of civil rights to give a more predetermined outcome. If just we march hard enough, shout hard enough and hope hard enough then it will come true and the planet will be saved.

I never called for wrecking cities. Everything you said comes of as rather elitist and if I may say so somewhat racist.

[Arctica-Aleutia]

Not being able to walk has nothing to do with being fit to be president. And I think his motive for entering WW2 was to stop the Nazis and protect people (I'm not an expert on FDR, so forgive me if I'm wrong.)

FDR declared war on Japan because of Pearl Harbor. Germany was the one who dragged the U.S. into Europe by invoking their alliance with Japan.

Well, yeah, but that just gave him a chance to help Europe like he had been wanting to.
To be honest, I'm not sure what it is I'm arguing about anymore. Let's get back to the issue of Hillary and Trump and whatever.

[San Lumen]

Well i care. I care about the future of Democracy and actually having a planet to live on.

Trump is going to sworn in. In 4 years we will still have a planet and still have democracy.

The environmental damage will have already been done by then.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You know what? Fuck it, since you are die hard on feeling miserable.

Yes, Clinton truly has a chance if the electoral college would just vote with their hearts. Because everyone aside from Trump has a heart, we should appeal to the interracial community so that Love Trumps Hate, 4 million voices cannot be wrong. Hillary should be president and Laci Green the VP so that woman power can fill our hearts with hope and change. Everyone should take to the street and riot hard enough and wreck cities, like they have, that voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, and when asked why we overturn the system we will just say we are doing this on behalf of all and that black lives matters. Since we are also by our conscience superseding the rights of others, lets also re-educate them as we expand the definition of civil rights to give a more predetermined outcome. If just we march hard enough, shout hard enough and hope hard enough then it will come true and the planet will be saved.

I never called for wrecking cities. Everything you said comes of as rather elitist and if I may say so somewhat racist.

You saying someone else comes across as elitist is fucking hilarious.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I don't think Trump supporters would see it that way.

True, although I have said this: Trump ain't no messiah. The system will keep on working with or without him exactly as it has.

Just look at who his picks for his cabinet and VP are. Trump supporters got out of this a very, very hollow victory.

[Nordic Saxony]

You know what? Fuck it, since you are die hard on feeling miserable.

Yes, Clinton truly has a chance if the electoral college would just vote with their hearts. Because everyone aside from Trump has a heart, we should appeal to the interracial community so that Love Trumps Hate, 4 million voices cannot be wrong. Hillary should be president and Laci Green the VP so that woman power can fill our hearts with hope and change. Everyone should take to the street and riot hard enough and wreck cities, like they have, that voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, and when asked why we overturn the system we will just say we are doing this on behalf of all and that black lives matters. Since we are also by our conscience superseding the rights of others, lets also re-educate them as we expand the definition of civil rights to give a more predetermined outcome. If just we march hard enough, shout hard enough and hope hard enough then it will come true and the planet will be saved.

I never called for wrecking cities. Everything you said comes of as rather elitist and if I may say so somewhat racist.

Nothing he has said is racist in the slightest.


Get over yourself and stop accusing people of being something they're not.