Hillary Clinton could still win the presidency

[Balkenreich]

way to generalize.

Might as well say that north texas is full of Sister fuckers too.

I mean

That's not a false statement

i mean so is California if you look hard enough.

[Partido Liberal Constitucional]

Entertainingly, in Texas its the NORTH side that's loaded full of ultra conservative nutters. The southern half showed a LOT more blue.

way to generalize.

Might as well say that north texas is full of Sister fuckers too.

#notalltexans

[Kravanica]

I mean

That's not a false statement

i mean so is California if you look hard enough.

I suspect any state has people who fucks sisters.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I live in Texas, she wasnt gonna win this state.

Entertainingly, in Texas its the NORTH side that's loaded full of ultra conservative nutters. The southern half showed a LOT more blue.

Wait, Dallas is in the north and she won this county...

[Washington Resistance Army]

Entertainingly, in Texas its the NORTH side that's loaded full of ultra conservative nutters. The southern half showed a LOT more blue.

Wait, Dallas is in the north and she won this county...

Further proof Dallas sucks.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Wait, Dallas is in the north and she won this county...

Further proof Dallas sucks.

To be fair, Dallas has always been blue.

Our sister county in the metro, Tarrant, is far more conservative, although it is not as prominent as Dallas.

[Ifreann]

The internet is reality, chief.

That's what many NSers would love to think I'm sure.

Do you think I'm talking to you from Dimension X or something? Do you think this is all part of your imagination? Do you think everyone online except you is an AI?

This is real. You are using a real computer of some sort to connect to a real network of computers and communicate with real people.

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Yes, people were concerned that if Trump, who in 2012 called for a revolution when he imagined that Obama won the electoral college vote but not the public vote, lost the election and refused to accept the result he might incite his followers into violent and seditious acts.

Then what happens? People discuss online the fact that faithless electors could still give the presidency to Clinton?

Exactly what is wrong with people being mad about the results of this election?

wew

What's your point?

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Exactly what is wrong with people being mad about the results of this election?

Being mad =/= rioting and harassing the electors in a crusade to stop the president elect from taking office.

Not being the same does not mean being mutually exclusive. Being cold isn't the same as being hungry, yet one can be both cold and hungry. One can be both mad and engaged in rioting and harassment.

You can be mad and not act like an asshat.

Or you can be mad an act like an asshat.

[Saxon-Germania]

https://www.change.org/p/electoral-college-electors-electoral-college-make-hillary-clinton-president-on-december-19

On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!
We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.
Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.

The electiral college is broken and undemocratic, but it can still choose to follow the will of the people and vote for Hillary Clinton. Many Trump supporters and people who don't really like democracy have been vehemently defending the electoral college lately. When you defend the current system, this is a part of it. If electors were to go faithless amen masse and elect Hillary Clinton, it would be fully within the bounds layed out by the constitution. So, what say you NSG? Is it time to use this undemocratic institution to uphold democracy in the time being, while we wait to have it abolished?

the electoral college is broken but trump was democratically elected and to say hillary was a better choice is pharsicle, she wanted to start a war with russia, she also knew about the voting fraud and the fake protestors im not supporting trump at all but i believe all this gibberish about undemocraticly being elected is false

[Balkenreich]

Further proof Dallas sucks.

To be fair, Dallas has always been blue.

Our sister county in the metro, Tarrant, is far more conservative, although it is not as prominent as Dallas.

Long live Soldati, Latino dream king of Dallas and Protector of Sugarland.

Long may his reign be, the first of his name etc etc.

[Godular]

Entertainingly, in Texas its the NORTH side that's loaded full of ultra conservative nutters. The southern half showed a LOT more blue.

way to generalize.

Might as well say that north texas is full of Sister fuckers too.

That's just silly. I don't know anything about family mating habits of Northern Texans. Suppose I could have rephrased it as 'North Texas has a much higher saturation of ultra-conservative nutters', thereby presenting the impression that while there is a larger number, they are not the only demographic present.

*Remembers random lady at hotel responding to me mentioning being in town for a science educators' convention by singing hymns and saying every class at school should begin with a prayer and that the reason children aren't doing so well in school is their lack of faith...

Of course, there are some crazies in the southern end too.

*Remembers bumper sticker saying 'If you don't love Jesus then GO TO HELL!'

Isolated instances, mayhap, but somewhat telling nonetheless.

[San Lumen]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

[Socialist Nordia]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

Once they recount the votes, it'll all be clear that the whole thing was rigged, and Jill Stein actually won Wisconsin.

More seriously, considering there were some irregularities, I think this is a good thing.

[Arlenton]

Further proof Dallas sucks.

To be fair, Dallas has always been blue.

Our sister county in the metro, Tarrant, is far more conservative, although it is not as prominent as Dallas.

It was first blue in 2008. Last time it was blue was 1964 I think.

[Balkenreich]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

Jill stein wouldnt know what the Popular vote was if it was sitting on her face.

[Genivaria]

The internet is reality, chief.

That's what many NSers would love to think I'm sure.

So do you think you're having a conversation with yourself than?

[San Lumen]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

Jill stein wouldnt know what the Popular vote was if it was sitting on her face.

She might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but she's not that dumb.

[San Lumen]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

Once they recount the votes, it'll all be clear that the whole thing was rigged, and Jill Stein actually won Wisconsin.

More seriously, considering there were some irregularities, I think this is a good thing.

I think its a wonderful thing.

[Kravanica]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

I just find it funny that everyone was criticizing Trump for apparently not accepting the results of the upcoming election. The tables have certainly turned.

[Valrifell]

Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.

I just find it funny that everyone was criticizing Trump for apparently not accepting the results of the upcoming election. The tables have certainly turned.

Difference being he was whining before a single vote was cast.

[Kravanica]

I just find it funny that everyone was criticizing Trump for apparently not accepting the results of the upcoming election. The tables have certainly turned.

Difference being he was whining before a single vote was cast.

True, but still. I thought the election wasn't rigged. I thought voter fraud wasn't a problem in the US. What happened?

[Galloism]

I just find it funny that everyone was criticizing Trump for apparently not accepting the results of the upcoming election. The tables have certainly turned.

Difference being he was whining before a single vote was cast.

And that Hillary hasn't whined. At all.

[Valrifell]

Difference being he was whining before a single vote was cast.

True, but still. I thought the election wasn't rigged. I thought voter fraud wasn't a problem in the US. What happened?

The head of the NSA basically said "Yeah, Russia directly interfering is totally a possibility."

[Kravanica]

True, but still. I thought the election wasn't rigged. I thought voter fraud wasn't a problem in the US. What happened?

The head of the NSA basically said "Yeah, Russia directly interfering is totally a possibility."

Interfering as in hacking the DNC and leaking information. Actually directly rigging the election is a whole different ball game.

[Galloism]

The head of the NSA basically said "Yeah, Russia directly interfering is totally a possibility."

Interfering as in hacking the DNC and leaking information. Actually directly rigging the election is a whole different ball game.

Incidentally, now that the Russian government knows that works (thanks America), we can expect it to be a regular feature of the elections.

[Kravanica]

Interfering as in hacking the DNC and leaking information. Actually directly rigging the election is a whole different ball game.

Incidentally, now that the Russian government knows that works (thanks America), we can expect it to be a regular feature of the elections.

Well, you can in part blame your party for having so much corruption in their closet.