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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:56 pm

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Daburuetchi wrote:If for one welcome Korean Rasputin...

Rasp-unni?

god i hate romanization of korean lol
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Postby Danceria » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:56 pm

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Postby Quokkastan » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:00 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:Rasp-unni?

god i hate romanization of korean lol

I'd have done it in Hangul if I'd thought anyone could read it.

Or had a Hangul keyboard.

Or knowledge of how to write Hangul.
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Postby Danceria » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:02 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:god i hate romanization of korean lol

I'd have done it in Hangul if I'd thought anyone could read it.

Or had a Hangul keyboard.

Or knowledge of how to write Hangul.

According to Google: It's 라스푸틴 or laseuputin.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:04 pm

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Arumdaum wrote:god i hate romanization of korean lol

I'd have done it in Hangul if I'd thought anyone could read it.

Or had a Hangul keyboard.

Or knowledge of how to write Hangul.

No, it's just that spelling is so unstandardized when you romanize Korean lol

the u in unni is more the "uh" in "up" rather than the "oo" sound in Rasputin
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Postby Quokkastan » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:05 pm

Danceria wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:I'd have done it in Hangul if I'd thought anyone could read it.

Or had a Hangul keyboard.

Or knowledge of how to write Hangul.

According to Google: It's 라스푸틴 or laseuputin.

Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:07 pm

Danceria wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:I'd have done it in Hangul if I'd thought anyone could read it.

Or had a Hangul keyboard.

Or knowledge of how to write Hangul.

According to Google: It's 라스푸틴 or laseuputin.

no it's raseuputin

ㄹ is only L when it's on the bottom or follows a ㄹ on the bottom
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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:11 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Danceria wrote:According to Google: It's 라스푸틴 or laseuputin.

Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?

The word "shaman" is actually a loanword from Tungusic languages, possibly Manchu (where the word for shaman is actually shaman, but other Tungusic languages have this too).

Korea's traditional religion is shamanism (though later heavily infused with foreign religions such as Buddhism). Shinto was also historically just shamanism, now with a fancy name attached to the specific variety present in Japan. Shamanism is somewhat of a commonality in Northeast Asia; the word itself is borrowed from a Northeast Asian language.

People don't really see shamanism as much of a "legitimate religion," though; it's not organized and doesn't have any holy texts or anything. Park Chung-hee cracked down heavily on it (though tbh so did the Joseon dynasty, but then again they suppressed all religions) and promoted Buddhism and Christianity, which were considered more "legitimate" (imo this was mostly done for recognition as a "civilized nation" or sth by the West).
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Postby Police state of France » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:13 pm

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:16 pm

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Postby Quokkastan » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:16 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?

The word "shaman" is actually a loanword from Tungusic languages, possibly Manchu (where the word for shaman is actually shaman, but other Tungusic languages have this too).

Korea's traditional religion is shamanism. Shinto was also historically just shamanism, now with a fancy name attached to the specific variety present in Japan. Shamanism is somewhat of a commonality in Northeast Asia; the word itself is borrowed from a Northeast Asian language.

I see.

When I was in the Sakha Republic the word very specifically referred to Tengriists. I assumed that traditional Korean practices would have their own word associated with them. Thanks for the clarification.
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Postby Keuliseu » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:18 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:god i hate romanization of korean lol

I'd have done it in Hangul if I'd thought anyone could read it.

Or had a Hangul keyboard.

Or knowledge of how to write Hangul.

I'd understand, I was going to do my NS nation name in Hangul but I didn't, don't even know if it'd let me

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Postby Sanctissima » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:18 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Danceria wrote:According to Google: It's 라스푸틴 or laseuputin.

Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?


It's... complicated.

Her father, Choi Tae-min, was a Buddhist convert to Catholicism who declared himself a future Buddha and founded a Buddhist-Catholic syncretic cult called the Church of Eternity. He eventually became a very close associate of the current president's father Park Chung-hee, who was president at the time, by claiming that he could communicate with his recently assassinated wife. After Park Chung-hee was himself assassinated, Choi Tae-min was basically Park Geun-hye's (the current president and daughter of Park Chung-hee) mentor. He died in 1994, leaving his daughter Choi Soon-sil, the current shaman in question, as the new cult leader.

It reads a bit like a shitty anime manga, I know. All we're missing is for either the shaman or president to be yandere, and for there to be a secret lesbian relationship between the two.

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Postby Arumdaum » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:19 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:The word "shaman" is actually a loanword from Tungusic languages, possibly Manchu (where the word for shaman is actually shaman, but other Tungusic languages have this too).

Korea's traditional religion is shamanism. Shinto was also historically just shamanism, now with a fancy name attached to the specific variety present in Japan. Shamanism is somewhat of a commonality in Northeast Asia; the word itself is borrowed from a Northeast Asian language.

I see.

When I was in the Sakha Republic the word very specifically referred to Tengriists. I assumed that traditional Korean practices would have their own word associated with them. Thanks for the clarification.

There are some words for the variety specific to Korea, such as mugyo (Muism), sindo (Sinism, shindo), sindogyo, gosindo, and pungwoldo, but people also just call it shamanism in English.
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Postby Quokkastan » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:24 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?


It's... complicated.

Her father, Choi Tae-min, was a Buddhist convert to Catholicism who declared himself a future Buddha and founded a Buddhist-Catholic syncretic cult called the Church of Eternity. He eventually became a very close associate of the current president's father Park Chung-hee, who was president at the time, by claiming that he could communicate with his recently assassinated wife. After Park Chung-hee was himself assassinated, Choi Tae-min was basically Park Geun-hye's (the current president and daughter of Park Chung-hee) mentor. He died in 1994, leaving his daughter Choi Soon-sil, the current shaman in question, as the new cult leader.

It reads a bit like a shitty anime manga, I know. All we're missing is for either the shaman or president to be yandere, and for there to be a secret lesbian relationship between the two.

The investigation is still ongoing. Let's not rule anything out.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:27 pm

They were/are friends.

Apparently friendship is magic.

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Postby James_xenoland » Sat Nov 12, 2016 9:50 pm

Sanctissima wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?


It's... complicated.

Her father, Choi Tae-min, was a Buddhist convert to Catholicism who declared himself a future Buddha and founded a Buddhist-Catholic syncretic cult called the Church of Eternity. He eventually became a very close associate of the current president's father Park Chung-hee, who was president at the time, by claiming that he could communicate with his recently assassinated wife. After Park Chung-hee was himself assassinated, Choi Tae-min was basically Park Geun-hye's (the current president and daughter of Park Chung-hee) mentor. He died in 1994, leaving his daughter Choi Soon-sil, the current shaman in question, as the new cult leader.

It reads a bit like a shitty anime manga, I know. All we're missing is for either the shaman or president to be yandere, and for there to be a secret lesbian relationship between the two.


............................Wow! I don't think i have the words... :blink:
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Postby Nusaresa » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:43 am

Doesn't President Park have a ~5% approval rating?
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Kravanica wrote:They're this upset because their President had an unofficial advisor?


More like a Rasputina.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:10 am

Sanctissima wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:Yes but that ignores my clever (by a certain definition of "clever") use of Korean honorifics.

This is already fairly off-topic. Let's not digress further.


Shaman. Now, when they say "Shaman" what are they talking about here? Is she a Tengriist or something?


It's... complicated.

Her father, Choi Tae-min, was a Buddhist convert to Catholicism who declared himself a future Buddha and founded a Buddhist-Catholic syncretic cult called the Church of Eternity. He eventually became a very close associate of the current president's father Park Chung-hee, who was president at the time, by claiming that he could communicate with his recently assassinated wife. After Park Chung-hee was himself assassinated, Choi Tae-min was basically Park Geun-hye's (the current president and daughter of Park Chung-hee) mentor. He died in 1994, leaving his daughter Choi Soon-sil, the current shaman in question, as the new cult leader.

It reads a bit like a shitty anime manga, I know. All we're missing is for either the shaman or president to be yandere, and for there to be a secret lesbian relationship between the two.


And someone to dig around in the cult and find some Lovecraftian shit.
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Postby Shamhnan Insir » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:40 am

Protests enter the fourth week.

And Park continues to claim she will not move from her position, only appearing on television to "apologise"
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Shamhnan Insir wrote:Protests enter the fourth week.

And Park continues to claim she will not move from her position, only appearing on television to "apologise"


Question is, is she holding ground because she wants to, or because she was "advised" to?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:59 am

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Shamhnan Insir wrote:Protests enter the fourth week.

And Park continues to claim she will not move from her position, only appearing on television to "apologise"


Question is, is she holding ground because she wants to, or because she was "advised" to?

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:00 am

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Gauthier wrote:
Question is, is she holding ground because she wants to, or because she was "advised" to?

Power corrupts and all that


The only thing worse than being corrupt is being well intentioned but easily played by the corrupt.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:02 am

Valaran wrote:
Uxupox wrote:I think it was always been like that. The current President was the daughter of the dictator that led South Korea for around 18 years.

The resentment of this perceived system is relatively recent, though no less intense for all that.

Apparently it takes a while for the South Korean public to work up a collective anger, but once they get there...


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