The State of the Democratic Party Post-2016

[Telconi]

Money terrifies you?

It terrifies any politician that dare oppose their, increasingly broadening, agenda.

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

[Telconi]

Are you unaware of the money the NRA can slosh around?

Perhaps stop taking their money that simple.

Why?

[San Lumen]

It terrifies any politician that dare oppose their, increasingly broadening, agenda.

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

Because they are afraid of primary challenges from pro gun people that the NRA will give millions too.

[Telconi]

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

Because they are afraid of primary challenges from pro gun people that the NRA will give millions too.

It was sarcasm... People still propose and pass gun control laws...

[Washington Resistance Army]

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

Because they are afraid of primary challenges from pro gun people that the NRA will give millions too.

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

[Telconi]

Because they are afraid of primary challenges from pro gun people that the NRA will give millions too.

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

Wouldn't it be nice if San Lumen was correct tho?

[Conserative Morality]

Because they are afraid of primary challenges from pro gun people that the NRA will give millions too.

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

I think you mean "A small donation of 30 million dollars"

Considering that's the equivalent of his monthly campaigning budget at the time, I don't think that's insignificant.

[G-Tech Corporation]

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

I think you mean "A small donation of 30 million dollars"

Considering that's the equivalent of his monthly campaigning budget at the time, I don't think that's insignificant.

Sure- but a drop in the pot compared to, say, Clinton’s budget at the time.

[Washington Resistance Army]

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

I think you mean "A small donation of 30 million dollars"

Considering that's the equivalent of his monthly campaigning budget at the time, I don't think that's insignificant.

I was more meaning compared to other big money spenders in politics, the NRA doesn't even really compete when it comes to that.

[Conserative Morality]

Sure- but a drop in the pot compared to, say, Clinton’s budget at the time.

She only (I say only, but it is a sizable amount more than - just not enough to make the difference a drop in the bucket) outspent Trump by about 2-1.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Sure- but a drop in the pot compared to, say, Clinton’s budget at the time.

She only (I say only, but it is a sizable amount more than - just not enough to make the difference a drop in the bucket) outspent Trump by about 2-1.

*shrug*

Even so, 30 million compared to ~1.5 billion isn’t exactly a big contribution. Not insignificant, certainly, but not exactly a game-changer.

[Valrifell]

It terrifies any politician that dare oppose their, increasingly broadening, agenda.

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

Contrary to what the NRA would have you believe, there hasn't really been a coordinated effort to pass any kind of gun control legislation in a long while. It's all mostly empty rhetoric from the Dems to make it seem like they can win an issue they have no hope of ever competing in.

The NRA is, in my opinion, an abhorrent organization that is a few sips of its own kool-aid away from literally shooting up government offices.

[Valrifell]

Because they are afraid of primary challenges from pro gun people that the NRA will give millions too.

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

That's not all they do, though, mass telephone ads and letters to mobilize their voters to convince them that the evil Opposition and Other is coming for their precious Guns and it's their duty to stop them and vote for the glorious Savior.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

Contrary to what the NRA would have you believe, there hasn't really been a coordinated effort to pass any kind of gun control legislation in a long while. It's all mostly empty rhetoric from the Dems to make it seem like they can win an issue they have no hope of ever competing in.

The NRA is, in my opinion, an abhorrent organization that is a few sips of its own kool-aid away from literally shooting up government offices.

A few years is hardly a long while.

[Valrifell]

Contrary to what the NRA would have you believe, there hasn't really been a coordinated effort to pass any kind of gun control legislation in a long while. It's all mostly empty rhetoric from the Dems to make it seem like they can win an issue they have no hope of ever competing in.

The NRA is, in my opinion, an abhorrent organization that is a few sips of its own kool-aid away from literally shooting up government offices.

A few years is hardly a long while.

It's certainly less frequent and less fervent than the doomsday scenarios the NRA keeps preaching.

[Washington Resistance Army]

A few years is hardly a long while.

It's certainly less frequent and less fervent than the doomsday scenarios the NRA keeps preaching.

Sure, but they bring up every small example of gun control people being silly and or proposing things because it helps them.

I mean, when gun control groups start screaming about muskets not being regulated enough (yes this happened recently) the NRA ads just write themselves.

[Telconi]

Which is why nobody proposes gun control anymore amiright?

Contrary to what the NRA would have you believe, there hasn't really been a coordinated effort to pass any kind of gun control legislation in a long while. It's all mostly empty rhetoric from the Dems to make it seem like they can win an issue they have no hope of ever competing in.

The NRA is, in my opinion, an abhorrent organization that is a few sips of its own kool-aid away from literally shooting up government offices.

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Contrary to whoever you're getting your information from would want you to believe. Gun control advocates are introducing and passing bills still. And it's directly harming me.

[Telconi]

They don't really give millions to help candidates. Even Trump, arguably the most important person for them to get behind, only got a largely insignificant 30 million spent to help him.

That's not all they do, though, mass telephone ads and letters to mobilize their voters to convince them that the evil Opposition and Other is coming for their precious Guns and it's their duty to stop them and vote for the glorious Savior.

They are. It is. If necessary.

[Valrifell]

It's certainly less frequent and less fervent than the doomsday scenarios the NRA keeps preaching.

Sure, but they bring up every small example of gun control people being silly and or proposing things because it helps them.

I mean, when gun control groups start screaming about muskets not being regulated enough (yes this happened recently) the NRA ads just write themselves.

The NRA needs to fucking cool its shit, is all I'm saying. They're slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party as the years go by, and are increasingly adopting more anti-government and violent rhetoric.

I'm just saying but I won't be entirely shocked if the NRA works one of their members into such a frenzy s/he does something regrettable.

[Valrifell]

Contrary to what the NRA would have you believe, there hasn't really been a coordinated effort to pass any kind of gun control legislation in a long while. It's all mostly empty rhetoric from the Dems to make it seem like they can win an issue they have no hope of ever competing in.

The NRA is, in my opinion, an abhorrent organization that is a few sips of its own kool-aid away from literally shooting up government offices.

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http://www.google.com/amp/sanfrancisco. ... e-ban/amp/[/url]

Contrary to whoever you're getting your information from would want you to believe. Gun control advocates are introducing and passing bills still. And it's directly harming me.

"harming"

And I'm talking Federal stuff, mostly, where the conversation is without a doubt dead.

[San Lumen]

Sure, but they bring up every small example of gun control people being silly and or proposing things because it helps them.

I mean, when gun control groups start screaming about muskets not being regulated enough (yes this happened recently) the NRA ads just write themselves.

The NRA needs to fucking cool its shit, is all I'm saying. They're slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party as the years go by, and are increasingly adopting more anti-government and violent rhetoric.

I'm just saying but I won't be entirely shocked if the NRA works one of their members into such a frenzy s/he does something regrettable.

I think it might be only a matter of time at the rate things are going.

[Telconi]

Sure, but they bring up every small example of gun control people being silly and or proposing things because it helps them.

I mean, when gun control groups start screaming about muskets not being regulated enough (yes this happened recently) the NRA ads just write themselves.

The NRA needs to fucking cool its shit, is all I'm saying. They're slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party as the years go by, and are increasingly adopting more anti-government and violent rhetoric.

I'm just saying but I won't be entirely shocked if the NRA works one of their members into such a frenzy s/he does something regrettable.

Stop provoking them?

[Valgora]

Sure, but they bring up every small example of gun control people being silly and or proposing things because it helps them.

I mean, when gun control groups start screaming about muskets not being regulated enough (yes this happened recently) the NRA ads just write themselves.

The NRA needs to fucking cool its shit, is all I'm saying. They're slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party as the years go by, and are increasingly adopting more anti-government and violent rhetoric.

I'm just saying but I won't be entirely shocked if the NRA works one of their members into such a frenzy s/he does something regrettable.

I don't really see anything wrong with them adopting more anti-government rhetoric; however, if they are slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party, that means that they ain't anti-government.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sure, but they bring up every small example of gun control people being silly and or proposing things because it helps them.

I mean, when gun control groups start screaming about muskets not being regulated enough (yes this happened recently) the NRA ads just write themselves.

The NRA needs to fucking cool its shit, is all I'm saying. They're slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party as the years go by, and are increasingly adopting more anti-government and violent rhetoric.

I'm just saying but I won't be entirely shocked if the NRA works one of their members into such a frenzy s/he does something regrettable.

Well, them practically being an arm of the GOP isn't shocking. Nowadays I can probably count pro-gun Dems at a national level on one hand.

Their rhetoric is a bit silly at times, on that we agree. But if it's silly and it works...

[Valrifell]

The NRA needs to fucking cool its shit, is all I'm saying. They're slowly becoming an extra arm of the Republican Party as the years go by, and are increasingly adopting more anti-government and violent rhetoric.

I'm just saying but I won't be entirely shocked if the NRA works one of their members into such a frenzy s/he does something regrettable.

Stop provoking them?

That's the thing, though, even if the Federal conversation has no chance of ever producing anything productive, the NRA will still lose their fucking shit anytime anyone even says "hey, maybe we should start doing something" after something tragic happens - which is a completely fine response, mind.