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Postby Telconi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:48 pm

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It is new, but my take on it is...


I don't like organizations that peddle in far-right conspiracy theories.


They can peddle whatever trash they want as long as they get results so far as I care.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:49 pm

Genivaria wrote:
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>mfw people think I'm a conservative

"Support the GOA instead of the NRA"
WRA is that new?
I coulda sworn you were an NRA backer.


Newish. Changed it a few months back because I just really dislike the NRA tbh. GOA refuses to compromise on anything and is much better suited for the job in my opinion.

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Cekoviu wrote:Reactionary, whatever.


Oh boy. You're a reactionary WRA.

*Braces for the machine gun guy to get triggered*...

*Realizes said machine gun guy is holding a Cobray*...

*Goes about day normally, confident that his body is smaller than the broad side of a barn*...


Just wait you fuckin pinko, one of these days I'll build an M249 and none will withstand the belt fed power of NATO.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:50 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Genivaria wrote:"Support the GOA instead of the NRA"
WRA is that new?
I coulda sworn you were an NRA backer.


Newish. Changed it a few months back because I just really dislike the NRA tbh. GOA refuses to compromise on anything and is much better suited for the job in my opinion.

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Oh boy. You're a reactionary WRA.

*Braces for the machine gun guy to get triggered*...

*Realizes said machine gun guy is holding a Cobray*...

*Goes about day normally, confident that his body is smaller than the broad side of a barn*...


Just wait you fuckin pinko, one of these days I'll build an M249 and none will withstand the belt fed power of NATO.


I have more illiterate conscripts than you have bullets capitalist pig!
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Postby Corrian » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:51 pm

NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:52 pm

Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.

Not really. They've grown in influence and size immensely by their mildly unorthodox behavior.
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Postby Valgora » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:53 pm

Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.


Saying that an "embargo on ivory will make guns that have ivory illegal and will lead to ivory being illegal" will damage your cause or your reputation.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:54 pm

Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.


53% of Americans say the NRA has the right amount of, or too little influence overy U.S. gun policy.

Insanity is good at pandering to insane people...
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:54 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.

Not really. They've grown in influence and size immensely by their mildly unorthodox behavior.


Grown in influence, sure. But they once enjoyed sizable support from many Americans, now the NRA has become very polarizing, which may act as a detriment to 2nd amendment rights in the long run.

I'm somewhat neutral on the NRA, though I lean against them on many occasions. After Sandy Hook, they just got really insensitive and shitty.

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Postby Xelsis » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:08 pm

Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.


The NRA is doing more to damage its cause today by being too much in favor of gun control over being too much against it.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:09 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Grown in influence, sure. But they once enjoyed sizable support from many Americans, now the NRA has become very polarizing, which may act as a detriment to 2nd amendment rights in the long run.

I'm somewhat neutral on the NRA, though I lean against them on many occasions. After Sandy Hook, they just got really insensitive and shitty.

They've been insensitive and shitty for a long time. They were just quieter before.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:47 pm

Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.

Until politicians in Washington stop being so afraid of a fringe group that won't happen.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.

Until politicians in Washington stop being so afraid of a fringe group that won't happen.


They're hardly fringe. The NRA has millions of members who are mostly single issue voters, not someone you want to trifle with unless you're in a safe district.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Until politicians in Washington stop being so afraid of a fringe group that won't happen.


They're hardly fringe. The NRA has millions of members who are mostly single issue voters, not someone you want to trifle with unless you're in a safe district.

And yet many don't agree with their radical views. There answer to everything is always more guns and no restrictions on it.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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They're hardly fringe. The NRA has millions of members who are mostly single issue voters, not someone you want to trifle with unless you're in a safe district.

And yet many don't agree with their radical views. There answer to everything is always more guns and no restrictions on it.


The many who may or may not disagree don't vote solely on that topic like NRA members do.

My single biggest complaint with the NRA is that they've actually compromised too much.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They're hardly fringe. The NRA has millions of members who are mostly single issue voters, not someone you want to trifle with unless you're in a safe district.

And yet many don't agree with their radical views. There answer to everything is always more guns and no restrictions on it.


People aren't upset with the NRA because they're too extreme, people are upset because they cave too easily.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:53 pm

Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.


I've said it before that the gun rights crowd needs to find less insane reps. The NRA is turning the cause into a joke.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:56 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.


I've said it before that the gun rights crowd needs to find less insane reps. The NRA is turning the cause into a joke.

And yet politicians are still terrified of them.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:58 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Corrian wrote:NRA can go screw itself. They completely damage their cause by being insane.


I've said it before that the gun rights crowd needs to find less insane reps. The NRA is turning the cause into a joke.


The GOA is slowly getting there, I think they have a couple million members now and they entirely refuse to budge so that's nice.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:58 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I've said it before that the gun rights crowd needs to find less insane reps. The NRA is turning the cause into a joke.


The GOA is slowly getting there, I think they have a couple million members now and they entirely refuse to budge so that's nice.


If only you could see my tears when the NRA supported import bans to be protectionist

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Postby Telconi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I've said it before that the gun rights crowd needs to find less insane reps. The NRA is turning the cause into a joke.

And yet politicians are still terrified of them.


What makes you say that?
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:02 pm

Telconi wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And yet politicians are still terrified of them.


What makes you say that?


Are you unaware of the money the NRA can slosh around?
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Postby Telconi » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What makes you say that?


Are you unaware of the money the NRA can slosh around?


Money terrifies you?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:04 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What makes you say that?


Are you unaware of the money the NRA can slosh around?


It's not a large amount actually. Not even in the top 10 iirc. The NRA's power comes from organizing voters.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:04 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Telconi wrote:
What makes you say that?


Are you unaware of the money the NRA can slosh around?

Perhaps stop taking their money that simple.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Are you unaware of the money the NRA can slosh around?


Money terrifies you?


It terrifies any politician that dare oppose their, increasingly broadening, agenda.
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