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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:02 pm

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A great shame, but he brought it on himself. He could have been President.

What an awful thought.


Well, we have Trump and Moore running around.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Just wait until the smears really start on Bernie, he'd become a lot more unpopular pretty quickly imo.

Unlikely. Partisan politics has turned out to be too effective. You'd be preaching to the choir while everyone else scoffs and says 'fake news'. The GOP is about to elect a pedophile because Dems are trying to frame him by giving younger him an overbearing lust for teenage girls.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:04 pm

Like, Franken's stuff is mild in comparison to Moore or Trump, but it doesn't matter. They should all be held accountable. I am seeing a lot of people saying "You shouldn't resign until Trump does!" and it's kind of pathetic we're making this a political issue.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:04 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:What an awful thought.


Well, we have Trump and Moore running around.


Trump-Moore 2020?
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:05 pm

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Conserative Morality wrote:Ruined your chances what with all the talk of 'Socialism!' being Dems. Now there's a guy proudly bandying about the label as the bannerman in a major party. You lot (anti-leftists) literally turned a red scare opportunity into a red embrace. :p


Just wait until the smears really start on Bernie, he'd become a lot more unpopular pretty quickly imo.

People keep saying this, but there's no indication it's true. He was smeared by the Clintons and their shills quite hard during the primary, the Republicans constantly smear him too. People like his ideas. You just can't cope with the fact that people want to not be killed by the government and insurance industries so there's all this rationalization of "oh, once people start REALLY criticizing him (whatever the fuck that means) he'll go down for sure". He's only gotten more popular the more exposure he's gotten.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:06 pm

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Just wait until the smears really start on Bernie, he'd become a lot more unpopular pretty quickly imo.

People keep saying this, but there's no indication it's true. He was smeared by the Clintons and their shills quite hard during the primary, the Republicans constantly smear him too. People like his ideas. You just can't cope with the fact that people want to not be killed by the government and insurance industries so there's all this rationalization of "oh, once people start REALLY criticizing him (whatever the fuck that means) he'll go down for sure". He's only gotten more popular the more exposure he's gotten.


The thing is, I don't think they really have anything on Bernie. He's a straightforward candidate. He's as he presents himself. I think everybody has already decided if they could support him or not, and I don't think there's going to be much room for that to change.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:08 pm

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Just wait until the smears really start on Bernie, he'd become a lot more unpopular pretty quickly imo.

People keep saying this, but there's no indication it's true. He was smeared by the Clintons and their shills quite hard during the primary, the Republicans constantly smear him too. People like his ideas. You just can't cope with the fact that people want to not be killed by the government and insurance industries so there's all this rationalization of "oh, once people start REALLY criticizing him (whatever the fuck that means) he'll go down for sure". He's only gotten more popular the more exposure he's gotten.


If they didn't want to be killed by the government they wouldn't support someone who labels himself a socialist

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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:12 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:People keep saying this, but there's no indication it's true. He was smeared by the Clintons and their shills quite hard during the primary, the Republicans constantly smear him too. People like his ideas. You just can't cope with the fact that people want to not be killed by the government and insurance industries so there's all this rationalization of "oh, once people start REALLY criticizing him (whatever the fuck that means) he'll go down for sure". He's only gotten more popular the more exposure he's gotten.


If they didn't want to be killed by the government they wouldn't support someone who labels himself a socialist

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Because the private health insurance industry is literally killing people. If the government is leaving people who are too poor to die, it's state sanctioned murder.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:14 pm

In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.

I am really surprised to see this coming from you.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:26 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.

I am really surprised to see this coming from you.


95% of the stuff I post concerning the left isn't serious, for anyone who doesn't know.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:27 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.


Amusingly, I feel the same way.

Not that I’ve hidden that feeling, even during the primaries.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:28 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.

I am really surprised to see this coming from you.


No, all right-wingers tend to do that. I suspect it's a subtle ploy to make themselves seem like they're more aligned with Sanders than the DNC as to secure his base.

I'm on to you, Conservative Conspiracy.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.


I don't think the Party is that upset with how he's been helping the Party win more often, to be quite honest. I still just think they were peeved at his being an independent, you know, hijacking a primary for a Party he wasn't even really a member of. And then getting upset when he started gaining traction against someone they really really wanted.
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Postby Cekoviu » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:29 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I am really surprised to see this coming from you.


95% of the stuff I post concerning the left isn't serious, for anyone who doesn't know.

Ah.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:33 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I am really surprised to see this coming from you.


No, all right-wingers tend to do that. I suspect it's a subtle ploy to make themselves seem like they're more aligned with Sanders than the DNC as to secure his base.

I'm on to you, Conservative Conspiracy.


This man and everything he posts is fake news. Do yourself a favor, dear reader, and disregard it all.

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.


I don't think the Party is that upset with how he's been helping the Party win more often, to be quite honest. I still just think they were peeved at his being an independent, you know, hijacking a primary for a Party he wasn't even really a member of. And then getting upset when he started gaining traction against someone they really really wanted.


Says a lot about the Party's choice when an independent can come in and throw everything into disarray. With any luck the next primary will be a bit more impartial.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:33 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I am really surprised to see this coming from you.


No, all right-wingers tend to do that. I suspect it's a subtle ploy to make themselves seem like they're more aligned with Sanders than the DNC as to secure his base.

I'm on to you, Conservative Conspiracy.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:In all seriousness though Bernie is a good guy. Shame the party seems intent on giving his supporters the finger.


I don't think the Party is that upset with how he's been helping the Party win more often, to be quite honest. I still just think they were peeved at his being an independent, you know, hijacking a primary for a Party he wasn't even really a member of. And then getting upset when he started gaining traction against someone they really really wanted.


Damn, you’re on to us.

Now we need to think of a different ploy to divide and conquer the Democratic Party.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:

I don't think the Party is that upset with how he's been helping the Party win more often, to be quite honest. I still just think they were peeved at his being an independent, you know, hijacking a primary for a Party he wasn't even really a member of. And then getting upset when he started gaining traction against someone they really really wanted.


Says a lot about the Party's choice when an independent can come in and throw everything into disarray. With any luck the next primary will be a bit more impartial.


True enough, red flags should've been raised in Iowa or New Hampshire but especially in Michigan.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:36 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
No, all right-wingers tend to do that. I suspect it's a subtle ploy to make themselves seem like they're more aligned with Sanders than the DNC as to secure his base.

I'm on to you, Conservative Conspiracy.



I don't think the Party is that upset with how he's been helping the Party win more often, to be quite honest. I still just think they were peeved at his being an independent, you know, hijacking a primary for a Party he wasn't even really a member of. And then getting upset when he started gaining traction against someone they really really wanted.


Damn, you’re on to us.

Now we need to think of a different ploy to divide and conquer the Democratic Party.


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Postby Petrasylvania » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:52 pm

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MERIZoC wrote:Franken is resigning tomorrow.

Good call on his part. His name is tarnished, even if he 100% made amends with every one of his victims.

Meanwhile, sex offenders are still welcome to hold office for the GOP.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:I am really surprised to see this coming from you.


95% of the stuff I post concerning the left isn't serious, for anyone who doesn't know.


You'd think some of it was, judging from your new bio.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:02 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Good call on his part. His name is tarnished, even if he 100% made amends with every one of his victims.

Meanwhile, sex offenders are still welcome to hold office for the GOP.

Accused sex offenders, nothing more.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:03 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:Meanwhile, sex offenders are still welcome to hold office for the GOP.

Accused sex offenders, nothing more.

Credibility accused child sex offender*
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:07 pm

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Northern Davincia wrote:Accused sex offenders, nothing more.

Credibility accused child sex offender*


Oh? Has new evidence come up?
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Postby Corrian » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:09 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Corrian wrote:Credibility accused child sex offender*


Oh? Has new evidence come up?

We're talking about Roy Moore I presume. The evidence explains itself.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:10 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
95% of the stuff I post concerning the left isn't serious, for anyone who doesn't know.


You'd think some of it was, judging from your new bio.


One can be an anti-commie without being full McCarthy. I just like to parody my own beliefs tbh.
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