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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:06 pm

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Corrian wrote:What

Wow, that's terrible.

Unironic official sexism, and even more hilariously, blaming the victim when someone threatens to post revenge porn of him when his only threat was he would "call the police".

I don't normally say this, but if she is on the democratic ticket, I hope a republican defeats her.


It looks like they aren't even through primaries yet. The other declared Democrat is a fellow by the name of Patrick Miles. So she could just lose the nomination.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:06 pm

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Telconi wrote:
It has to be... this has to be some form of joke...

Someone around here was talking about the rise of anti-man rhetoric and mainstreaming of misandry in society.

That person might be a prophet.

I dunno, I don't see her having much chance after that ad.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:50 pm

Corrian wrote:What

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Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:53 pm

Corrian wrote:
Galloism wrote:Someone around here was talking about the rise of anti-man rhetoric and mainstreaming of misandry in society.

That person might be a prophet.

I dunno, I don't see her having much chance after that ad.

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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:53 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Corrian wrote:What

...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.



Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:53 pm

Galloism wrote:
Corrian wrote:I dunno, I don't see her having much chance after that ad.

Michigan: "Hold my beer."

Remember, Michigan voted Trump over Clinton.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:54 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.

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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:55 pm

Corrian wrote:
Galloism wrote:Michigan: "Hold my beer."

Remember, Michigan voted Trump over Clinton.

Yes, but he's not exactly super popular right now. Besides that, they don't have primaries for AG. They have conventions.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:56 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Corrian wrote:What

...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.

There are a lot of people excited by that ad. That's the worst part. There are so many people who are blatantly setting themselves up for a repeated failure.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:58 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.



Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.


Basically identity politics is any political stance that takes a view assigning a particular trait or behavior to a person as a result of some sort of demographic identity.

In this case, the implied "men are sexually inappropriate by default" message.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:59 pm

Telconi wrote:
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:

Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.


Basically identity politics is any political stance that takes a view assigning a particular trait or behavior to a person as a result of some sort of demographic identity.

In this case, the implied "men are sexually inappropriate by default" message.

That's really what it came off as. Where she's like "Because I don't have a penis, I won't sexually assault you or whip my dick out". Which is obviously false. Except the last part technically.
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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:00 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.



Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.

In this context identity politics means radical feminism, which takes the view that you are defined primarily by your gender and that all men oppress women through patriarchy.

Corrian wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.

There are a lot of people excited by that ad. That's the worst part. There are so many people who are blatantly setting themselves up for a repeated failure.

It is still a primary. I hope she tanks before she's nominated.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:03 pm

Corrian wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Basically identity politics is any political stance that takes a view assigning a particular trait or behavior to a person as a result of some sort of demographic identity.

In this case, the implied "men are sexually inappropriate by default" message.

That's really what it came off as. Where she's like "Because I don't have a penis, I won't sexually assault you or whip my dick out". Which is obviously false. Except the last part technically.

On some level, I'd love to see a counter-ad that the other guy won't flash his tits to his employees, just to watch the outrage machine kick into high gear in the most hypocritical way imaginable (again).

But then it might give her a bigger chance of winning, and so in practical terms he shouldn't do that.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:18 pm

Corrian wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Basically identity politics is any political stance that takes a view assigning a particular trait or behavior to a person as a result of some sort of demographic identity.

In this case, the implied "men are sexually inappropriate by default" message.

That's really what it came off as. Where she's like "Because I don't have a penis, I won't sexually assault you or whip my dick out". Which is obviously false. Except the last part technically.


Just saw the campaign video, she reminds me of Courtney Cox's cameo character in Scrubs.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:20 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.



Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.

Identity politics is whatever they don't like, basically.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:22 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:

Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.

Identity politics is whatever they don't like, basically.

For some, yes. But not all.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:33 pm

Corrian wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:Identity politics is whatever they don't like, basically.

For some, yes. But not all.


If you break it down to reasonable definitions, it becomes so broad it doesn't even mean anything. Like, "identity politics," okay, what does that mean? Politics of the identity? Literally everything and anything can contribute to a person's "identity" so appealing to one of those things is inevitable.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:42 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:Wow, that's terrible.

Unironic official sexism, and even more hilariously, blaming the victim when someone threatens to post revenge porn of him when his only threat was he would "call the police".

I don't normally say this, but if she is on the democratic ticket, I hope a republican defeats her.


It looks like they aren't even through primaries yet. The other declared Democrat is a fellow by the name of Patrick Miles. So she could just lose the nomination.

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:42 pm

Corrian wrote:What

FUCK YES DRAG THEM DANA

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:44 pm

Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:...

Fuck it. Hope she loses. Hope everyone running on that kind of social platform loses. Hope the Democrats get their shit in gear by purging people who push that identity politics bullshit.

Not saying I would vote for a Republican against her, but I'd be writing someone in.



Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.

When people talk about gender race or sexuality in a way you don't like.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:44 pm

Corrian wrote:What


Dear lord.

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Postby Hittanryan » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:01 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Nouveau Yathrib wrote:

Point of order- what does everyone mean when they're referring to "identity politics"? People on NSG seem to mostly use it to smear third-wave feminism and relatively edgy LGBT policies pertaining to transgender/transsexual people.

When people talk about gender race or sexuality in a way you don't like.

There's a reason I don't like it: it's a losing ideology. The Democrats could run on the fact that they have generally better economic policy than the Republicans. Instead they do this shit, and then they lose elections to Republicans who are hell-bent on destroying the middle class' livelihoods.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:09 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:When people talk about gender race or sexuality in a way you don't like.

There's a reason I don't like it: it's a losing ideology. The Democrats could run on the fact that they have generally better economic policy than the Republicans. Instead they do this shit, and then they lose elections to Republicans who are hell-bent on destroying the middle class' livelihoods.


You'd think that when faced with the option between "social things I don't like" and "oh shit I'm poor now" that people would want to avoid the latter more.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:11 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Corrian wrote:What

FUCK YES DRAG THEM DANA

Oh god, you actually like her? I guess you didn't mind Clinton running on "I'm a woman, vote for me", then?
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:13 pm

Corrian wrote:What


I had a very sensible chuckle. Here is to hoping she loses the primary before throwing the main event.

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