The State of the Democratic Party Post-2016

[Earth and its colonies]

The Democratic party is on life support. Putting a bunch of radicals in charge is not helping you at all.

[Community Values]

The Democratic party is on life support. Putting a bunch of radicals in charge is not helping you at all.

Worked for the Republicans.

[The Liberated Territories]

I'd LOVE to see Lincoln Chafee be new face of the Democrats, bringing in his "Fresh Ideas" for America

Literally who

[South Park Labourite]

I'd LOVE to see Lincoln Chafee be new face of the Democrats, bringing in his "Fresh Ideas" for America

Literally who

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee

Former moderate Republican.

[Thermodolia]

The Democratic party is on life support. Putting a bunch of radicals in charge is not helping you at all.

I wouldn't say that it's on life support. Clinton still won the popular vote and they made gains in both houses of congress. The democrat party is down but definitely not out.

Though I don't think Ellison is the man for the job, Perez is a much better choice.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Democratic party is on life support. Putting a bunch of radicals in charge is not helping you at all.

I wouldn't say that it's on life support. Clinton still won the popular vote and they made gains in both houses of congress. The democrat party is down but definitely not out.

Though I don't think Ellison is the man for the job, Perez is a much better choice.

Or you could just put Webb in control

[Thermodolia]

I wouldn't say that it's on life support. Clinton still won the popular vote and they made gains in both houses of congress. The democrat party is down but definitely not out.

Though I don't think Ellison is the man for the job, Perez is a much better choice.

Or you could just put Webb in control

Hey I wouldn't mind that but some in the party think we need to send messages instead of actually winning.

[The Portland Territory]

Literally who

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee

Former moderate Republican.

"""""""Best""""""' governor Rhode Island's ever had too.

He wasnt even a moderate Republican, he was a Rino. I'd feel real bad for the Dems if they put him in charge

[Genivaria]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Chafee

Former moderate Republican.

"""""""Best""""""' governor Rhode Island's ever had too.

He wasnt even a moderate Republican, he was a Rino. I'd feel real bad for the Dems if they put him in charge

He seems pretty moderate to me.

[USS Monitor]

The Democratic party is on life support. Putting a bunch of radicals in charge is not helping you at all.

Losing one close election is not being on life-support. Derp.

[NeoLiberia]

Any news on Tulsi Gabbard and Jim Webb for 2020? Or just anything those two are going to try and get done by then?

Tulsi Gabbard is overrated. She attached herself to Bernie (despite not really even being a progressive) and then got herself in the news by touting the "neocons are scary m'kay" doctrine of foreign policy.

We need Sherrod Brown in 2020.

[Blakk Metal]

The Democratic party is on life support. Putting a bunch of radicals in charge is not helping you at all.

Losing one close election is not being on life-support. Derp.

No, losing control of everything is.

[Galloism]

Losing one close election is not being on life-support. Derp.

No, losing control of everything is.

So circa 2009, Republicans were on life support?

[Collatis]

The other glaring difference between them was on TPP, but I don't know how much of that really is the case.

Except for foreign policy, Obama is to the right of Hillary. The positions that show it are the TPP, charter schools, and the DC v. Heller decision.

Hillary certainly ran to Obama's left, but that is mainly because the country has moved to the left in recent years, and because of Bernie Sanders's campaign. I think Hillary's long history with the DLC and the third way makes it pretty clear that she is to Obama's right, though certainly not by that much.

Why does everyone seem to hate Jim Webb here, I do recall people saying he's quite incompetent with the election last year but I have yet to see a reason why you guys would have such a string disdain for such a moderate democrat.

That's the thing though, he's not a moderate Democrat. He's a Republican in all but name. He left the GOP over foreign policy, and that is the only area where he really has anything in common with the Democratic Party.

[Corrian]

Or you could just put Webb in control

Hey I wouldn't mind that but some in the party think we need to send messages instead of actually winning.

Pretty sure Jim Webb would alienate the rest of the party. I wouldn't be at all thrilled with him. He just came off as an ass.

[Geilinor]

Meanwhile Ted Cruz voted FOR it.

This is why you don't use one vote as a litmus test.

[MERIZoC]

Meanwhile Ted Cruz voted FOR it.

They may have had legitimate reasons for not voting it, though, but of course its devolved to "Here is how much the pharma industry has given them in PAC's, and when to primary them out" already.

No legitimate reasons have been given so why should we think they would exist?

[Corrian]

Meanwhile Ted Cruz voted FOR it.

They may have had legitimate reasons for not voting it, though, but of course its devolved to "Here is how much the pharma industry has given them in PAC's, and when to primary them out" already.

No legitimate reasons have been given so why should we think they would exist?

Well, Cory Booker said because of regulatory standards or something.

It might be bullshit, but they gave reasons nonetheless.

[Collatis]

No legitimate reasons have been given so why should we think they would exist?

Well, Cory Booker said because of regulatory standards or something.

It might be bullshit, but they gave reasons nonetheless.

The reasons that were given sounded fairly reasonable, but I don't really buy it.

[USS Monitor]

Well, Cory Booker said because of regulatory standards or something.

It might be bullshit, but they gave reasons nonetheless.

The reasons that were given sounded fairly reasonable, but I don't really buy it.

I don't either. I am a bit suspicious that it's due to the influence of donations or lobbying.

Still wouldn't be a deal-breaker for getting my vote if he ran for president, just a reason why he might not be my first choice.

[The Lone Alliance]

No, losing control of everything is.

So circa 2009, Republicans were on life support?

Yes they were, that's why the Tea Party was able to hijack the Republican party so easily, the GOP was so beaten down that they clung to anything that could get them back into power.

Now the risk is if the Democratic party allows itself to get hijacked by it's own insane half of the base.

[Galloism]

So circa 2009, Republicans were on life support?

Yes they were, that's why the Tea Party was able to hijack the Republican party so easily, the GOP was so beaten down that they clung to anything that could get them back into power.

Now the risk is if the Democratic party allows itself to get hijacked by it's own insane half of the base.

So what you're telling me is that a party on life support can, and probably will, bounce back stronger than before.

[The Lone Alliance]

Yes they were, that's why the Tea Party was able to hijack the Republican party so easily, the GOP was so beaten down that they clung to anything that could get them back into power.

Now the risk is if the Democratic party allows itself to get hijacked by it's own insane half of the base.

So what you're telling me is that a party on life support can, and probably will, bounce back stronger than before.

Like some horror movie where the almost dead person is brought back by a mysterious chemical that is secretly turning them into a horrifying version of their former selves.

Sure they might be alive again, stronger, faster, better, but they've lost something and eventually the chemical will cause them to violently disintegrate and explode.

Do you want that fate for the Democratic party?

[Galloism]

So what you're telling me is that a party on life support can, and probably will, bounce back stronger than before.

Like some horror movie where the almost dead person is brought back by a mysterious chemical that is secretly turning them into a monsterous version of their former selves.

Sure they might be alive again, stronger, faster, better, but they've lost something and eventually the chemical will cause them to violently disintegrate and explode.

This is the best comparison I've ever seen.

[The One True Benxboro Empire]

So what you're telling me is that a party on life support can, and probably will, bounce back stronger than before.

Like some horror movie where the almost dead person is brought back by a mysterious chemical that is secretly turning them into a horrifying version of their former selves.

Sure they might be alive again, stronger, faster, better, but they've lost something and eventually the chemical will cause them to violently disintegrate and explode.

Do you want that fate for the Democratic party?

Does it lead to my country being destroyed?