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by Vassenor » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:31 pm

by Senkaku » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:32 pm
Liriena wrote:And instead you've got Trump... a wealthy, trashy, smooth-talking, egotistic urbanite with a Messiah complex and a long history of swindling, who lives in a gilded apartment at the top of a tower with his name on it, eating junk food with a knife and fork.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:32 pm
Free Missouri wrote:Senkaku wrote:When you say that people from the city ACTUALLY DO act like people from the Capitol and call Clinton "Mrs. President Snow", I think you're really kinda proving their point regarding the whole fearmongering thing...
Did you not read the list of things that my county has gone through thanks to out of touch far-off rulers in DC? WATCH A TV SHOW FOR FUCK SAKES. URBANITES STEREOTYPE RURAL PEOPLE AS IGNORANT, STUPID BIGOTS LIVING IN THE PAST. I've been called ignorant and idiotic off the bat without any chance to explain my views by urbanites literally BECAUSE OF MY ACCENT AND MY IDEOLOGY. City people immediately throw out my views on guns because "you don't live in the cities and have to deal with the violence here."
I can go on with the examples of urban people and the urban society as a whole being completely out of touch with the country around them, what I call people who have "possibly traveled the world but have never traveled fifteen miles away from their city center."
And Hillary will be no change from obama, 8 more years of policies that help no one but the big metropolises, leaving most of the rural areas to rot and die off like we've been doing since the recession began.
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by San Lumen » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:33 pm

by Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:36 pm
Free Missouri wrote:Liriena wrote:And instead you've got Trump... a wealthy, trashy, smooth-talking, egotistic urbanite with a Messiah complex and a long history of swindling, who lives in a gilded apartment at the top of a tower with his name on it, eating junk food with a knife and fork.
Like I've said: I don't like trump, I never wanted him to be president. There were far better choices in president. Hell, I would've been a better candidate for either side if I were old enough, but the point is that the reason that people voted for trump is because they saw a hammer. They saw someone that might've been from that same background as the oligarchs, but presented a drastically different type of person from them, someone who jumped out of that lambo (new idiom instead of jumping off your high horse) and spoke their language, someone who appealed to their (again, at least in some cases justified, especially in getting burned by the fed. government) fears. They saw someone who promised to jump into the oval office and start smashing the place to pieces, and that's what they believed they needed to get a hand up to get out of this cycle of apathy towards the rural areas leading to people having to urbanize to find jobs leading to more apathy for the rural areas.
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by Rio Cana » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:43 pm


by Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:43 pm
Liriena wrote:Free Missouri wrote:
Like I've said: I don't like trump, I never wanted him to be president. There were far better choices in president. Hell, I would've been a better candidate for either side if I were old enough, but the point is that the reason that people voted for trump is because they saw a hammer. They saw someone that might've been from that same background as the oligarchs, but presented a drastically different type of person from them, someone who jumped out of that lambo (new idiom instead of jumping off your high horse) and spoke their language, someone who appealed to their (again, at least in some cases justified, especially in getting burned by the fed. government) fears. They saw someone who promised to jump into the oval office and start smashing the place to pieces, and that's what they believed they needed to get a hand up to get out of this cycle of apathy towards the rural areas leading to people having to urbanize to find jobs leading to more apathy for the rural areas.
I get that. I really do. You have legitimate grievances there. But it's beginning to look like you got played.

by Senkaku » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:50 pm
Free Missouri wrote:
*They got played. I voted for Johnson,
and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.


by Corrian » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:58 pm
San Lumen wrote:I am still so ashamed of my country that this happened. I cannot nor will I ever use the word President with his name. My country has now embarrassed itself to the entire world and I cannot ever forgive it. I am no longer proud of it nor do I consider it the greatest country in the world. Trump should be barred from taking office by the Electoral College and if his supporters dont like it to darn bad. He did not win the popular vote and is totally unqualified to be President. The Electoral college was designed for this purpose not to be a rubber stamp.

by Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:16 pm
Free Missouri wrote:Liriena wrote:I get that. I really do. You have legitimate grievances there. But it's beginning to look like you got played.
*They got played. I voted for Johnson, and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.
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by The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:29 pm
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by Gauthier » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:32 pm
Corrian wrote:San Lumen wrote:I am still so ashamed of my country that this happened. I cannot nor will I ever use the word President with his name. My country has now embarrassed itself to the entire world and I cannot ever forgive it. I am no longer proud of it nor do I consider it the greatest country in the world. Trump should be barred from taking office by the Electoral College and if his supporters dont like it to darn bad. He did not win the popular vote and is totally unqualified to be President. The Electoral college was designed for this purpose not to be a rubber stamp.
We thought we looked like a shame under Bush? Wait until you see how we are viewed after Trump.

by Sack Jackpot Winners » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:27 pm
Gauthier wrote:Corrian wrote:We thought we looked like a shame under Bush? Wait until you see how we are viewed after Trump.
Trump would have The Dixie Chicks locked with Hillary after another 3AM Twitter Pissy Fit, not counting unhinged fanboys who might see it as a duty to the (false) God Emperor to rape and murder them.

by Southerly Gentleman » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:31 pm
Socialist Nordia wrote:His choice for chief of staff will be a great indicator of what sort of president he'll be. If it's Reince Priebus, we know he'll be a rubber stamp puppet of the establishment. If he chooses Steve Bannon, we know he'll be as close to "literally Hitler" as he can. Those are his top 2 candidates right now.

by Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:44 pm
Southerly Gentleman wrote:Socialist Nordia wrote:His choice for chief of staff will be a great indicator of what sort of president he'll be. If it's Reince Priebus, we know he'll be a rubber stamp puppet of the establishment. If he chooses Steve Bannon, we know he'll be as close to "literally Hitler" as he can. Those are his top 2 candidates right now.
I hope like hell it's Bannon. Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the establishment conservatives need to be thrown out.
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by Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:08 pm

by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:11 pm

by Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:17 pm
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by Camicon » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:18 pm
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by Gauthier » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:18 pm
Liriena wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:
I don't understand
Gallo is merely pointing out the fact that Trump's lack of involvement in authorized killings has a lot to do with the fact that he has no experience whatsoever in holding that sort of responsibility, and that said lack of experience is not, in itself, a good thing.
A better analogy, oft repeated in this forum, was the following: Clinton would be the experienced neurosurgeon with allegations of malpractice, whereas Trump would be just some random guy with no medical training who is utterly convinced that he knows better than Ben Carson.

by Hurdergaryp » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:31 pm
Gauthier wrote:Liriena wrote:Gallo is merely pointing out the fact that Trump's lack of involvement in authorized killings has a lot to do with the fact that he has no experience whatsoever in holding that sort of responsibility, and that said lack of experience is not, in itself, a good thing.
A better analogy, oft repeated in this forum, was the following: Clinton would be the experienced neurosurgeon with allegations of malpractice, whereas Trump would be just some random guy with no medical training who is utterly convinced that he knows better than Ben Carson.
But the public is convinced experience is corruption.

by Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:05 pm
Liriena wrote:Free Missouri wrote:
*They got played. I voted for Johnson, and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.
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Johnson definitely isn't the worst human being ever, "What is Aleppo?" and all. Rand Paul would have definitely been more palatable to many of us, but I get the feeling that his particular brand of Republican is not welcome at the party anymore.

by Conscentia » Sat Nov 12, 2016 10:09 pm
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