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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:31 pm

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The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:after this election there is very little that sounds unbelievable to me.

Seconded. Like honestly... with some of the shit spouted this election, its hard to guess what is a joke and what is not.


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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:32 pm

Liriena wrote:And instead you've got Trump... a wealthy, trashy, smooth-talking, egotistic urbanite with a Messiah complex and a long history of swindling, who lives in a gilded apartment at the top of a tower with his name on it, eating junk food with a knife and fork.

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"Any change is better than no change" is not necessarily true. Trump is very much your stereotypical urbanite "Capitol" Flickerman type of guy.

Frankly, I'm surprised neither side of the urban-rural divide has gone further down the path of exploring resettlement policies.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:32 pm

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Senkaku wrote:When you say that people from the city ACTUALLY DO act like people from the Capitol and call Clinton "Mrs. President Snow", I think you're really kinda proving their point regarding the whole fearmongering thing...



Did you not read the list of things that my county has gone through thanks to out of touch far-off rulers in DC? WATCH A TV SHOW FOR FUCK SAKES. URBANITES STEREOTYPE RURAL PEOPLE AS IGNORANT, STUPID BIGOTS LIVING IN THE PAST. I've been called ignorant and idiotic off the bat without any chance to explain my views by urbanites literally BECAUSE OF MY ACCENT AND MY IDEOLOGY. City people immediately throw out my views on guns because "you don't live in the cities and have to deal with the violence here."


I can go on with the examples of urban people and the urban society as a whole being completely out of touch with the country around them, what I call people who have "possibly traveled the world but have never traveled fifteen miles away from their city center."

And Hillary will be no change from obama, 8 more years of policies that help no one but the big metropolises, leaving most of the rural areas to rot and die off like we've been doing since the recession began.


Eh? You have been called ignorant just because of your accent and ideology? The fuck?! :blink:

I am not saying that what you're saying is a lie, what I am surprised is that people actually care about accents and ideologies among Americans to gauge how educated you are.

Also, for the record, I do come from El Salvador, a country in which we do face similar issues, sadly.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:33 pm

I am still so ashamed of my country that this happened. I cannot nor will I ever use the word President with his name. My country has now embarrassed itself to the entire world and I cannot ever forgive it. I am no longer proud of it nor do I consider it the greatest country in the world. Trump should be barred from taking office by the Electoral College and if his supporters dont like it to darn bad. He did not win the popular vote and is totally unqualified to be President. The Electoral college was designed for this purpose not to be a rubber stamp.

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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:36 pm

Free Missouri wrote:
Liriena wrote:And instead you've got Trump... a wealthy, trashy, smooth-talking, egotistic urbanite with a Messiah complex and a long history of swindling, who lives in a gilded apartment at the top of a tower with his name on it, eating junk food with a knife and fork.


Like I've said: I don't like trump, I never wanted him to be president. There were far better choices in president. Hell, I would've been a better candidate for either side if I were old enough, but the point is that the reason that people voted for trump is because they saw a hammer. They saw someone that might've been from that same background as the oligarchs, but presented a drastically different type of person from them, someone who jumped out of that lambo (new idiom instead of jumping off your high horse) and spoke their language, someone who appealed to their (again, at least in some cases justified, especially in getting burned by the fed. government) fears. They saw someone who promised to jump into the oval office and start smashing the place to pieces, and that's what they believed they needed to get a hand up to get out of this cycle of apathy towards the rural areas leading to people having to urbanize to find jobs leading to more apathy for the rural areas.

I get that. I really do. You have legitimate grievances there. But it's beginning to look like you got played.
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Postby Rio Cana » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:43 pm

I cannot resist.

Did someone mention Rural areas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_oB6yOmKqg - :lol:

To balance things out City areas - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCjiNBiEUaQ :lol:
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Postby Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:43 pm

Liriena wrote:
Free Missouri wrote:
Like I've said: I don't like trump, I never wanted him to be president. There were far better choices in president. Hell, I would've been a better candidate for either side if I were old enough, but the point is that the reason that people voted for trump is because they saw a hammer. They saw someone that might've been from that same background as the oligarchs, but presented a drastically different type of person from them, someone who jumped out of that lambo (new idiom instead of jumping off your high horse) and spoke their language, someone who appealed to their (again, at least in some cases justified, especially in getting burned by the fed. government) fears. They saw someone who promised to jump into the oval office and start smashing the place to pieces, and that's what they believed they needed to get a hand up to get out of this cycle of apathy towards the rural areas leading to people having to urbanize to find jobs leading to more apathy for the rural areas.

I get that. I really do. You have legitimate grievances there. But it's beginning to look like you got played.


*They got played. I voted for Johnson, and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:50 pm

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*They got played. I voted for Johnson,

Well, if you live in a swing state, you may have been played too...

and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.

I believe Jon Stewart had some fairly apt criticism for dear ol' Rand when he was talking about liberal urbanite elites or whatever- "you're a doctor and a senator with a 12-term congressman father." :p
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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:58 pm

San Lumen wrote:I am still so ashamed of my country that this happened. I cannot nor will I ever use the word President with his name. My country has now embarrassed itself to the entire world and I cannot ever forgive it. I am no longer proud of it nor do I consider it the greatest country in the world. Trump should be barred from taking office by the Electoral College and if his supporters dont like it to darn bad. He did not win the popular vote and is totally unqualified to be President. The Electoral college was designed for this purpose not to be a rubber stamp.

We thought we looked like a shame under Bush? Wait until you see how we are viewed after Trump.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:16 pm

Free Missouri wrote:
Liriena wrote:I get that. I really do. You have legitimate grievances there. But it's beginning to look like you got played.


*They got played. I voted for Johnson, and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.

Oh, apologies for assuming. :p :hug:

Johnson definitely isn't the worst human being ever, "What is Aleppo?" and all. Rand Paul would have definitely been more palatable to many of us, but I get the feeling that his particular brand of Republican is not welcome at the party anymore.
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Postby The Confederacy of Nationalism » Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:29 pm

Uxupox wrote:
The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:is this real cause that last line sounds a lot like a joke


Its a joke article my friend.

You can tell it's a joke without even reading it or realizing it was published by the New Yorker, it was written by a Jew.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:32 pm

Corrian wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I am still so ashamed of my country that this happened. I cannot nor will I ever use the word President with his name. My country has now embarrassed itself to the entire world and I cannot ever forgive it. I am no longer proud of it nor do I consider it the greatest country in the world. Trump should be barred from taking office by the Electoral College and if his supporters dont like it to darn bad. He did not win the popular vote and is totally unqualified to be President. The Electoral college was designed for this purpose not to be a rubber stamp.

We thought we looked like a shame under Bush? Wait until you see how we are viewed after Trump.

Trump would have The Dixie Chicks locked with Hillary after another 3AM Twitter Pissy Fit, not counting unhinged fanboys who might see it as a duty to the (false) God Emperor to rape and murder them.
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Postby Sack Jackpot Winners » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:27 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Its a joke article my friend.

You can tell it's a joke without even reading it or realizing it was published by the New Yorker, it was written by a Jew.


Bro, not ok.

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Corrian wrote:We thought we looked like a shame under Bush? Wait until you see how we are viewed after Trump.

Trump would have The Dixie Chicks locked with Hillary after another 3AM Twitter Pissy Fit, not counting unhinged fanboys who might see it as a duty to the (false) God Emperor to rape and murder them.


Put the fanboys next to the BLM protesters who did the same at Mizzou, and we could solve some serious problems.
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Postby Southerly Gentleman » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:31 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:His choice for chief of staff will be a great indicator of what sort of president he'll be. If it's Reince Priebus, we know he'll be a rubber stamp puppet of the establishment. If he chooses Steve Bannon, we know he'll be as close to "literally Hitler" as he can. Those are his top 2 candidates right now.

I hope like hell it's Bannon. Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the establishment conservatives need to be thrown out.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:44 pm

Southerly Gentleman wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:His choice for chief of staff will be a great indicator of what sort of president he'll be. If it's Reince Priebus, we know he'll be a rubber stamp puppet of the establishment. If he chooses Steve Bannon, we know he'll be as close to "literally Hitler" as he can. Those are his top 2 candidates right now.

I hope like hell it's Bannon. Reince Priebus, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the establishment conservatives need to be thrown out.

Because the American public deserves confirmation that Trump is the candidate of white supremacists.
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Postby Dalvius » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:03 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Its a joke article my friend.

You can tell it's a joke without even reading it or realizing it was published by the New Yorker, it was written by a Jew.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:08 pm

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Trump hasn't killed anyone. Clinton on the other hand, was possibly involved in authorising killings as Secretary of State so probably comes closer to that.

And you've never damaged a plane on landing before, doesn't mean I'd hire you to be my pilot.


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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:11 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Its a joke article my friend.

You can tell it's a joke without even reading it or realizing it was published by the New Yorker, it was written by a Jew.


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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:17 pm

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Galloism wrote:And you've never damaged a plane on landing before, doesn't mean I'd hire you to be my pilot.


I don't understand

Gallo is merely pointing out the fact that Trump's lack of involvement in authorized killings has a lot to do with the fact that he has no experience whatsoever in holding that sort of responsibility, and that said lack of experience is not, in itself, a good thing.

A better analogy, oft repeated in this forum, was the following: Clinton would be the experienced neurosurgeon with allegations of malpractice, whereas Trump would be just some random guy with no medical training who is utterly convinced that he knows better than Ben Carson.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:18 pm

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Galloism wrote:And you've never damaged a plane on landing before, doesn't mean I'd hire you to be my pilot.


I don't understand

Not fucking up at flying a plane, because you've never been a pilot, does not make you more qualified or able than a pilot who has fucked up.

Not fucking up as an elected official, because you've never been one, does not make you more qualified or able than an elected official who has fucked up.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:18 pm

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I don't understand

Gallo is merely pointing out the fact that Trump's lack of involvement in authorized killings has a lot to do with the fact that he has no experience whatsoever in holding that sort of responsibility, and that said lack of experience is not, in itself, a good thing.

A better analogy, oft repeated in this forum, was the following: Clinton would be the experienced neurosurgeon with allegations of malpractice, whereas Trump would be just some random guy with no medical training who is utterly convinced that he knows better than Ben Carson.


But the public is convinced experience is corruption.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:31 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Liriena wrote:Gallo is merely pointing out the fact that Trump's lack of involvement in authorized killings has a lot to do with the fact that he has no experience whatsoever in holding that sort of responsibility, and that said lack of experience is not, in itself, a good thing.

A better analogy, oft repeated in this forum, was the following: Clinton would be the experienced neurosurgeon with allegations of malpractice, whereas Trump would be just some random guy with no medical training who is utterly convinced that he knows better than Ben Carson.

But the public is convinced experience is corruption.

It is probably a bit more complicated than that, but these are ill times for those seeking even the tiniest bit of nuance.


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Postby Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:05 pm

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*They got played. I voted for Johnson, and really wish Rand Paul (who at least has spent his political career representing a rural state) had gotten the nomination.

Oh, apologies for assuming. :p :hug:

Johnson definitely isn't the worst human being ever, "What is Aleppo?" and all. Rand Paul would have definitely been more palatable to many of us, but I get the feeling that his particular brand of Republican is not welcome at the party anymore.


If anything it's more welcome than it was before. Just the dislike of it by the alt right will mean we'll wrestle with bears that are roaring (The Alt Right, Hannity, the news organization which I refuse to refer to as it's former name as it has disgraced the name of Andrew Breitbart, Trump, etc. etc. etc.), rather than having to charm the snakes who were slithering and sneaking (the establishment right)
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