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Postby Uxupox » Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:52 am

Valrifell wrote:
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Don't need a joker when both of the main candidates are murderous buffoons.


Murderous?


Trump's nuclear comments and Clinton comments about Assange.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:06 pm

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Murderous?


Trump's nuclear comments and Clinton comments about Assange.


Trump hasn't killed anyone. Clinton on the other hand, was possibly involved in authorising killings as Secretary of State so probably comes closer to that.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:08 pm

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Trump's nuclear comments and Clinton comments about Assange.


Trump hasn't killed anyone. Clinton on the other hand, was possibly involved in authorising killings as Secretary of State so probably comes closer to that.

And you've never damaged a plane on landing before, doesn't mean I'd hire you to be my pilot.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:26 pm

Trump confirms he just googled Obamacare

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Speaking to reporters late Friday night, President-elect Donald Trump revealed that he had Googled Obamacare for the first time earlier in the day.

“I Googled it, and, I must say, I was surprised,” he said. “There was a lot in it that really made sense, to be honest.”

He said that he regretted that the frenetic pace of the presidential campaign had prevented him from Googling Obamacare earlier. “You’re always running, running, running,” he said. “There were so many times that I made a mental note to Google Obamacare but I just never got around to it.”

Trump also told the reporters that, now that the campaign was over, he had finally found the time to Google Mexico.

“Really eye-opening,” he said. “A lot of the Mexicans are terrific. They do just terrific things.”

When asked if Googling Mexico had affected his position on building a wall, Trump said, “Quite frankly, it did make me wonder a bit about that. A lot of these terrific Mexicans could come in and make a real contribution to our country and, in exchange, I think they’d really benefit from Obamacare.”

The President-elect also said that he had put Mike Pence in charge of the transition team “to give me more time for my conversion to Islam.”
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:31 pm

Galloism wrote:Trump confirms he just googled Obamacare

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Speaking to reporters late Friday night, President-elect Donald Trump revealed that he had Googled Obamacare for the first time earlier in the day.

“I Googled it, and, I must say, I was surprised,” he said. “There was a lot in it that really made sense, to be honest.”

He said that he regretted that the frenetic pace of the presidential campaign had prevented him from Googling Obamacare earlier. “You’re always running, running, running,” he said. “There were so many times that I made a mental note to Google Obamacare but I just never got around to it.”

Trump also told the reporters that, now that the campaign was over, he had finally found the time to Google Mexico.

“Really eye-opening,” he said. “A lot of the Mexicans are terrific. They do just terrific things.”

When asked if Googling Mexico had affected his position on building a wall, Trump said, “Quite frankly, it did make me wonder a bit about that. A lot of these terrific Mexicans could come in and make a real contribution to our country and, in exchange, I think they’d really benefit from Obamacare.”

The President-elect also said that he had put Mike Pence in charge of the transition team “to give me more time for my conversion to Islam.”

Oh, 2016, why won't you just die?

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Galloism wrote:Trump confirms he just googled Obamacare

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Speaking to reporters late Friday night, President-elect Donald Trump revealed that he had Googled Obamacare for the first time earlier in the day.

“I Googled it, and, I must say, I was surprised,” he said. “There was a lot in it that really made sense, to be honest.”

He said that he regretted that the frenetic pace of the presidential campaign had prevented him from Googling Obamacare earlier. “You’re always running, running, running,” he said. “There were so many times that I made a mental note to Google Obamacare but I just never got around to it.”

Trump also told the reporters that, now that the campaign was over, he had finally found the time to Google Mexico.

“Really eye-opening,” he said. “A lot of the Mexicans are terrific. They do just terrific things.”

When asked if Googling Mexico had affected his position on building a wall, Trump said, “Quite frankly, it did make me wonder a bit about that. A lot of these terrific Mexicans could come in and make a real contribution to our country and, in exchange, I think they’d really benefit from Obamacare.”

The President-elect also said that he had put Mike Pence in charge of the transition team “to give me more time for my conversion to Islam.”

Right, so, Google is going to be determining what Trump does during the next four years by burying all the right-wing/alt-right websites beyond the first page. :p
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:34 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/11/prediction-professor-who-called-trumps-big-win-also-made-another-forecast-trump-will-be-impeached/

I'm listening pretty intently to what this guy has to say, now, honestly.

A Pence Presidency would be...I don't even think most Trump supporters would like that.

Interesting times, huh?


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Postby The Isles of the Ninth Wind » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:41 pm

Galloism wrote:Trump confirms he just googled Obamacare

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Speaking to reporters late Friday night, President-elect Donald Trump revealed that he had Googled Obamacare for the first time earlier in the day.

“I Googled it, and, I must say, I was surprised,” he said. “There was a lot in it that really made sense, to be honest.”

He said that he regretted that the frenetic pace of the presidential campaign had prevented him from Googling Obamacare earlier. “You’re always running, running, running,” he said. “There were so many times that I made a mental note to Google Obamacare but I just never got around to it.”

Trump also told the reporters that, now that the campaign was over, he had finally found the time to Google Mexico.

“Really eye-opening,” he said. “A lot of the Mexicans are terrific. They do just terrific things.”

When asked if Googling Mexico had affected his position on building a wall, Trump said, “Quite frankly, it did make me wonder a bit about that. A lot of these terrific Mexicans could come in and make a real contribution to our country and, in exchange, I think they’d really benefit from Obamacare.”

The President-elect also said that he had put Mike Pence in charge of the transition team “to give me more time for my conversion to Islam.

is this real cause that last line sounds a lot like a joke

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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:42 pm

The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:

is this real cause that last line sounds a lot like a joke

The last line is what makes you think it's a joke?
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:45 pm

The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:

is this real cause that last line sounds a lot like a joke


Its a joke article my friend.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:45 pm

Camicon wrote:Right, so, Google is going to be determining what Trump does during the next four years by burying all the right-wing/alt-right websites beyond the first page. :p


Google has just become the most powerful search engine in the entire world right now. :p
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Postby The Isles of the Ninth Wind » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:46 pm

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The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:is this real cause that last line sounds a lot like a joke

The last line is what makes you think it's a joke?

after this election there is very little that sounds unbelievable to me.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 12, 2016 12:47 pm

The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:
Galloism wrote:The last line is what makes you think it's a joke?

after this election there is very little that sounds unbelievable to me.

Point.
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Postby Rio Cana » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:02 pm

The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:
Galloism wrote:The last line is what makes you think it's a joke?

after this election there is very little that sounds unbelievable to me.


How about Palin getting a government position under a Trump administration. :lol:

This is the list of people he plans to pick for certain government positions. Palin is on the list including other people that some would consider kind of problematic - http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016 ... ation.html
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Postby Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:10 pm

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Jochizyd Republic wrote:When he gets impeached, the circle of salt will be complete. I will get to fully experience the anger of Hillary and Trump Supporters.
Pence is popular with neither of them.

Even more riots tho. My God.

First let's see if the man actually gets impeached. Not saying that it is impossible, but that has been the default setting of the disgruntled on both sides of the political spectrum since Bill Clinton's presidency.


Note the difference between "Impeachment" and "Removal From Office"

One simply requires a 3/4ths vote in the House and triggers the other

The other literally turns the Senate into a massive jury for a massive court session presided by either the VP or the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, to decide whether or not to go through with it.
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Top tier troll that man. I'm not fond of him or his policies, but I have to respect how skillfully he trolled his way into being elected. :p
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Postby Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:39 pm

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Wasn't the electoral college supposed to protect the rural areas from the influence of cities?

Well, if that's the case, it has failed spectacularly. Have you ever seen a candidate visit a rural area? With the electoral college or without, the candidates will still just try to please the most populous states. Ohio, Texas, California, Florida, Virginia, those states make victors from their candidates. The rural vote has been inflated beyond reason.

Another question: why should the rural population be protected from the influence of cities? Policies that are good for cities aren't automatically bad for rural areas. Why should any political minority have its influence inflated beyond reason? People living on islands also have far fewer votes than people living on the US mainland. Should Hawaii receive more electoral cotes to 'protect them from the mainland'? The idea that the rural areas have to be protected somehow stems from Jeffersonian (and Roman) ideals about agricultural purity. It has no basis in the modern world.


An Answer on one of the closed threads but pertains to why rural population should be protected from the cities, the context is when I said there was no recourse, someone idiotically retorted "local government" and then accused me of fearmongering and acting like the people in Urban Cities are the "Capital" from hunger games. (which sometimes they very much act like it, and ya'll are trying to get Mrs. President Snow in office.)



The local government can't do anything about the federal government stepping in and causing a ruckus, nor does it have any chance whatsoever of making sure that USACE doesn't keep the twin cities and upper Missouri River cities happy by keeping their recreational lakes full at the expense of an extremely vital transportation highway (the Mississippi River) in the US in the middle of a terrible drought (2012).Nor can it help when the federal and state governments send all of their recovery resources to the cities. Local government can't help when the state sucks up to the county below you because they get hundreds of million in revenue from an aluminum foundry and then completely abandon your area when high taxes and bad energy policy run said foundry out of business. Local government doesn't help when your rates are threatened by carbon taxes and attacks on coal while the government completely ignores nuclear as a possible fix for your state's energy problems. Local government doesn't help when except for two thoroughfares your state spends no money or times on it's roads in your county. Local government makes no difference when the federal government activates a spillway next to you, and then declares that you don't get any federal flood insurance or fema money because "it was a man made disaster, not natural." And it sure as hell can't help you when the EPA starts to increase their power exponentially over "navigable" waters that aren't even navigable unless there's a big flood, and then wants to keep a project to build a pump station to reduce backwater build up behind the levees (WHICH DURING BAD FLOODS SHUTS DOWN TWO CRUCIAL HIGHWAYS AND LITERALLY FLOODS MULTIPLE SMALL TOWNS IN FOOT DEEP WATER) from going through because it's attached to a 1500-foot levee gap closingwhich "might endanger a frog population" here that's rare in this state but abundant literally just across the river. and you're damned right I'm scared of the country moving in a direction I don't want to go when this country moving in the regressive direction that leftists call "progress" has burned my family and my community and my state many times over. And while I voted third party, that's exactly the damn sentiment that made people vote in droves for trump. because they are tired of being burned by the federal government for the benefit of the tv cities (LA, San Fran, NY, etc. etc. etc.)
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:01 pm

Free Missouri wrote:then accused me of fearmongering and acting like the people in Urban Cities are the "Capital" from hunger games. (which sometimes they very much act like it, and ya'll are trying to get Mrs. President Snow in office.)

When you say that people from the city ACTUALLY DO act like people from the Capitol and call Clinton "Mrs. President Snow", I think you're really kinda proving their point regarding the whole fearmongering thing...
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The Isles of the Ninth Wind wrote:
Galloism wrote:The last line is what makes you think it's a joke?

after this election there is very little that sounds unbelievable to me.

Seconded. Like honestly... with some of the shit spouted this election, its hard to guess what is a joke and what is not.
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Postby Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:14 pm

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Free Missouri wrote:then accused me of fearmongering and acting like the people in Urban Cities are the "Capital" from hunger games. (which sometimes they very much act like it, and ya'll are trying to get Mrs. President Snow in office.)

When you say that people from the city ACTUALLY DO act like people from the Capitol and call Clinton "Mrs. President Snow", I think you're really kinda proving their point regarding the whole fearmongering thing...



Did you not read the list of things that my county has gone through thanks to out of touch far-off rulers in DC? WATCH A TV SHOW FOR FUCK SAKES. URBANITES STEREOTYPE RURAL PEOPLE AS IGNORANT, STUPID BIGOTS LIVING IN THE PAST. I've been called ignorant and idiotic off the bat without any chance to explain my views by urbanites literally BECAUSE OF MY ACCENT AND MY IDEOLOGY. City people immediately throw out my views on guns because "you don't live in the cities and have to deal with the violence here."


I can go on with the examples of urban people and the urban society as a whole being completely out of touch with the country around them, what I call people who have "possibly traveled the world but have never traveled fifteen miles away from their city center."

And Hillary will be no change from obama, 8 more years of policies that help no one but the big metropolises, leaving most of the rural areas to rot and die off like we've been doing since the recession began.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:21 pm

Free Missouri wrote:
Senkaku wrote:When you say that people from the city ACTUALLY DO act like people from the Capitol and call Clinton "Mrs. President Snow", I think you're really kinda proving their point regarding the whole fearmongering thing...



Did you not read the list of things that my county has gone through thanks to out of touch far-off rulers in DC? WATCH A TV SHOW FOR FUCK SAKES. URBANITES STEREOTYPE RURAL PEOPLE AS IGNORANT, STUPID BIGOTS LIVING IN THE PAST. I've been called ignorant and idiotic off the bat without any chance to explain my views by urbanites literally BECAUSE OF MY ACCENT AND MY IDEOLOGY. City people immediately throw out my views on guns because "you don't live in the cities and have to deal with the violence here."


I can go on with the examples of urban people and the urban society as a whole being completely out of touch with the country around them, what I call people who have "possibly traveled the world but have never traveled fifteen miles away from their city center."

And Hillary will be no change from obama, 8 more years of policies that help no one but the big metropolises, leaving most of the rural areas to rot and die off like we've been doing since the recession began.

And instead you've got Trump... a wealthy, trashy, smooth-talking, egotistic urbanite with a Messiah complex and a long history of swindling, who lives in a gilded apartment at the top of a tower with his name on it, eating junk food with a knife and fork.
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Postby Senkaku » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:29 pm

Free Missouri wrote:
Senkaku wrote:When you say that people from the city ACTUALLY DO act like people from the Capitol and call Clinton "Mrs. President Snow", I think you're really kinda proving their point regarding the whole fearmongering thing...



Did you not read the list of things that my county has gone through thanks to out of touch far-off rulers in DC?

I did, it sounds like it sucks. How are we supposed to balance that with rural voters preventing city dwellers from implementing legislation that resolves issues unique to our counties?

WATCH A TV SHOW FOR FUCK SAKES. URBANITES STEREOTYPE RURAL PEOPLE AS IGNORANT, STUPID BIGOTS LIVING IN THE PAST.

When you're telling the urbanite you're arguing how people like them constantly just stereotype everyone as redneck hicks because something something TV

I've been called ignorant and idiotic off the bat without any chance to explain my views by urbanites literally BECAUSE OF MY ACCENT

Okay, that's bad. Doesn't mean everyone from the city is literally Effie Trinket or Caesar Flickerman.
AND MY IDEOLOGY.

Wait, I thought they weren't letting you explain your views? If someone listens to your ideological positions and then believes you to be ignorant and idiotic, that seems perfectly within their rights and within normal conduct. People have ideological disagreements.

City people

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immediately throw out my views on guns because "you don't live in the cities and have to deal with the violence here."

Frankly, whatever your views on gun control are, it might be that they are in fact better suited to the rural community you live in. No one community should have the same approach, because there are different concerns at play. Just as I probably don't fully understand how angering it is to have the EPA tell you you can't stop flooding or whatever because of some frogs, you're probably not used to driving past homicide scenes or having people regularly get shot within a few miles of your house.


I can go on with the examples of urban people and the urban society as a whole being completely out of touch with the country around them,

And yet the majority of America's population lives in those vast agglomerations of decadence and fast living you so detest. Are they out of touch with the country if they're most of it?
what I call people who have "possibly traveled the world but have never traveled fifteen miles away from their city center."

Do those people exist? Yes. Is it fair of you to stereotype them like this? No.

doing since the recession began.

I won't argue on the point that Hillary and Obama's policies haven't done much to alleviate the plights of many rural communities, but it's also worth pointing out that many were in decline well before the recession.

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Postby Free Missouri » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:29 pm

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Free Missouri wrote:

Did you not read the list of things that my county has gone through thanks to out of touch far-off rulers in DC? WATCH A TV SHOW FOR FUCK SAKES. URBANITES STEREOTYPE RURAL PEOPLE AS IGNORANT, STUPID BIGOTS LIVING IN THE PAST. I've been called ignorant and idiotic off the bat without any chance to explain my views by urbanites literally BECAUSE OF MY ACCENT AND MY IDEOLOGY. City people immediately throw out my views on guns because "you don't live in the cities and have to deal with the violence here."


I can go on with the examples of urban people and the urban society as a whole being completely out of touch with the country around them, what I call people who have "possibly traveled the world but have never traveled fifteen miles away from their city center."

And Hillary will be no change from obama, 8 more years of policies that help no one but the big metropolises, leaving most of the rural areas to rot and die off like we've been doing since the recession began.

And instead you've got Trump... a wealthy, trashy, smooth-talking, egotistic urbanite with a Messiah complex and a long history of swindling, who lives in a gilded apartment at the top of a tower with his name on it, eating junk food with a knife and fork.


Like I've said: I don't like trump, I never wanted him to be president. There were far better choices in president. Hell, I would've been a better candidate for either side if I were old enough, but the point is that the reason that people voted for trump is because they saw a hammer. They saw someone that might've been from that same background as the oligarchs, but presented a drastically different type of person from them, someone who jumped out of that lambo (new idiom instead of jumping off your high horse) and spoke their language, someone who appealed to their (again, at least in some cases justified, especially in getting burned by the fed. government) fears. They saw someone who promised to jump into the oval office and start smashing the place to pieces, and that's what they believed they needed to get a hand up to get out of this cycle of apathy towards the rural areas leading to people having to urbanize to find jobs leading to more apathy for the rural areas.
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