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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:37 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:And when the glorious US army murders, rapes and terrorises that's fine. It's just a couple of bad apples. Unlike the enemy who are all depraved, disgusting and deserve to be tortured to death. Of course, even if they don't, it's important we don't say shit about it, because We Stand By The Troops.


I suggest to read through this.

I'm talking about the opinions of ra ra military types, not the guidelines of the US Army. I notice you didn't even try and counter the point me or Merizoc made? Maybe you've got a vested interest in ignoring this information? I hope that's not the case.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:45 pm

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It's literally a trash article. One point is the document saying that the CoC "bought sex with military money" but isn't implicating anybody.

It isn't implicating anybody in particular because the source is a SOUTHCOM document that has all the names redacted? It more than proves their point, that his command was involved in buying sex with military money.

Another is using "slur-filled emails" which links to another article with no sources to back up their claims at all.

It used a secondary source. Here's the CPI report.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/03 ... hts-abuses

Also the planting of weapons deals is not an Army issue but in fact more of a CIA type deal.

Oh dear. You're in the army right? That doesn't mean you can't have a viewpoint of your own you know?


1) No CoC = No relevant information
2) Not suprising and so what.
3) Viewpoint freely given and freely thought unlike those beneath the Kremlin slaving away for the glorious Motherland.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:47 pm

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Bakery Hill wrote:It isn't implicating anybody in particular because the source is a SOUTHCOM document that has all the names redacted? It more than proves their point, that his command was involved in buying sex with military money.


It used a secondary source. Here's the CPI report.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2015/03 ... hts-abuses


Oh dear. You're in the army right? That doesn't mean you can't have a viewpoint of your own you know?


1) No CoC = No relevant information
2) Not suprising and so what.
3) Viewpoint freely given and freely thought unlike those beneath the Kremlin slaving away for the glorious Motherland.

1. What?
2. So first it was unsourced, now that it's proven it's fine? Backpedal backpedal backpedal.
3. Again what?
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:48 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:

I'm talking about the opinions of ra ra military types, not the guidelines of the US Army. I notice you didn't even try and counter the point me or Merizoc made? Maybe you've got a vested interest in ignoring this information? I hope that's not the case.


Somebody doesn't know that the LAW is also followed by the other branches. Besides it's not a guideline. You break it and they break you.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:50 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
1) No CoC = No relevant information
2) Not suprising and so what.
3) Viewpoint freely given and freely thought unlike those beneath the Kremlin slaving away for the glorious Motherland.

1. What?
2. So first it was unsourced, now that it's proven it's fine? Backpedal backpedal backpedal.
3. Again what?


1) Exactly what I said.
2) Not backpedaling at all. It's a normality to see such actions in military espionage and intelligence warfare.
3) See number #1.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:50 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm talking about the opinions of ra ra military types, not the guidelines of the US Army. I notice you didn't even try and counter the point me or Merizoc made? Maybe you've got a vested interest in ignoring this information? I hope that's not the case.


Somebody doesn't know that the LAW is also followed by the other branches. Besides it's not a guideline. You break it and they break you.

And again I'm not talking about the guidelines or LAWS of the US Army or the navy or airforce or whatever, I'm talking about the attitudes of apologists,
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:51 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm talking about the opinions of ra ra military types, not the guidelines of the US Army. I notice you didn't even try and counter the point me or Merizoc made? Maybe you've got a vested interest in ignoring this information? I hope that's not the case.


Somebody doesn't know that the LAW is also followed by the other branches. Besides it's not a guideline. You break it and they break you.

It's not to hard to understand that people break the law and get away with it at times.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:53 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Somebody doesn't know that the LAW is also followed by the other branches. Besides it's not a guideline. You break it and they break you.

And again I'm not talking about the guidelines or LAWS of the US Army or the navy or airforce or whatever, I'm talking about the attitudes of apologists,


It's a principle of offensive. If such actions benefit the American public then yes it's good.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:53 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:1. What?
2. So first it was unsourced, now that it's proven it's fine? Backpedal backpedal backpedal.
3. Again what?


1) Exactly what I said.
2) Not backpedaling at all. It's a normality to see such actions in military espionage and intelligence warfare.
3) See number #1.

You keep being intellectually dishonest and refuse to properly explain yourself. I'm coming into this thread with good faith to exchange ideas and debate points, please be courteous enough to do the same.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:54 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
Somebody doesn't know that the LAW is also followed by the other branches. Besides it's not a guideline. You break it and they break you.

It's not to hard to understand that people break the law and get away with it at times.


And those that do break it should be penalized but I'm not part of JAG so I don't have authority of such measures.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:55 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:And again I'm not talking about the guidelines or LAWS of the US Army or the navy or airforce or whatever, I'm talking about the attitudes of apologists,


It's a principle of offensive. If such actions benefit the American public then yes it's good.

I fail to see how destabilizing Latin America has benefitted me.

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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:55 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
1) Exactly what I said.
2) Not backpedaling at all. It's a normality to see such actions in military espionage and intelligence warfare.
3) See number #1.

You keep being intellectually dishonest and refuse to properly explain yourself. I'm coming into this thread with good faith to exchange ideas and debate points, please be courteous enough to do the same.


How about you be courteous yourself when one disagrees with your points and don't insult other viewpoints? Maybe I'll do the same.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:55 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
It's a principle of offensive. If such actions benefit the American public then yes it's good.

I fail to see how destabilizing Latin America has benefitted me.


Ask the President not me.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:00 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:You keep being intellectually dishonest and refuse to properly explain yourself. I'm coming into this thread with good faith to exchange ideas and debate points, please be courteous enough to do the same.


How about you be courteous yourself when one disagrees with your points and don't insult other viewpoints? Maybe I'll do the same.

I'm not going to mollycoddle anyone. I fully acknowledge I can be abrasive in arguments. But I try and make my points as clear as possible and concede points when I've been proved wrong. You're doing neither of these things. You said it was a trash article and questioned its sources. When the sources were actively explained to you and proven to be legitimate, you backpedalled and refused to explain your reasoning. This is intellectually dishonest.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:01 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
How about you be courteous yourself when one disagrees with your points and don't insult other viewpoints? Maybe I'll do the same.

I'm not going to mollycoddle anyone. I fully acknowledge I can be abrasive in arguments. But I try and make my points as clear as possible and concede points when I've been proved wrong. You're doing neither of these things. You said it was a trash article and questioned its sources. When the sources were actively explained to you and proven to be legitimate, you backpedalled and refused to explain your reasoning. This is intellectually dishonest.


I already gave my reasoning.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:01 pm

John Bolton is claiming that the Russian hacks might have actually been false flags staged by Obama. Good thing that he is no longer the frontrunner for Secretary of State.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:03 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I fail to see how destabilizing Latin America has benefitted me.


Ask the President not me.

Good backpedal there, since you're the one who's been trying to justify Kelly's actions from square one.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:05 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:I'm not going to mollycoddle anyone. I fully acknowledge I can be abrasive in arguments. But I try and make my points as clear as possible and concede points when I've been proved wrong. You're doing neither of these things. You said it was a trash article and questioned its sources. When the sources were actively explained to you and proven to be legitimate, you backpedalled and refused to explain your reasoning. This is intellectually dishonest.


I already gave my reasoning.

Mate, why are you doing this? You do know everything you've written here can be quoted back at you verbatim? You refused to explain yourself as can be seen:

Uxupox wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:1. What?
2. So first it was unsourced, now that it's proven it's fine? Backpedal backpedal backpedal.
3. Again what?


1) Exactly what I said.
2) Not backpedaling at all. It's a normality to see such actions in military espionage and intelligence warfare.
3) See number #1.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:06 pm

Geilinor wrote:John Bolton is claiming that the Russian hacks might have actually been false flags staged by Obama. Good thing that he is no longer the frontrunner for Secretary of State.

His Order of Lenin is in the post.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:20 pm

Staffers at the Department Of Energy are a bit nervous after the Trump team passed around a 74-point questionnaire in which they were asked for the names of anyone and everyone currently working on climate change issues.

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Staffers at the Department Of Energy are a bit nervous after the Trump team passed around a 74-point questionnaire in which they were asked for the names of anyone and everyone currently working on climate change issues.


Electors, please save the world from Trump.

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Staffers at the Department Of Energy are a bit nervous after the Trump team passed around a 74-point questionnaire in which they were asked for the names of anyone and everyone currently working on climate change issues.

Fucking...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH THOSE FUCKING BASTARDS ARE GOING TO DESTROY ALL OUR FUCKING PROGRESS ON THIS SHIT WHY THE FUCK CAN'T HE JUST STOP THIS INSANE BULLSHIT!!!
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:31 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Staffers at the Department Of Energy are a bit nervous after the Trump team passed around a 74-point questionnaire in which they were asked for the names of anyone and everyone currently working on climate change issues.


Electors, please save the world from Trump.


By electing Al Gore :p
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Postby Arlenton » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:35 pm

"I like our ads. I like beautiful women eating burgers in bikinis. I think it's very American." -Andrew Puzder

I like Trump's Secretary of Labor nominee already! :)

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Postby Arlenton » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:36 pm

The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Staffers at the Department Of Energy are a bit nervous after the Trump team passed around a 74-point questionnaire in which they were asked for the names of anyone and everyone currently working on climate change issues.

Fucking...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH THOSE FUCKING BASTARDS ARE GOING TO DESTROY ALL OUR FUCKING PROGRESS ON THIS SHIT WHY THE FUCK CAN'T HE JUST STOP THIS INSANE BULLSHIT!!!

Because his voters don't want him too.

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