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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:15 am

New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.

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Postby Police state of France » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:16 am

Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.

And, how is this a bad thing?


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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:17 am

Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.


That's from June, but yeah.
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Postby Arlenton » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:17 am

Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.

There will be no successful uprisings.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:18 am

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Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.

There will be no successful uprisings.


How do you know?
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:20 am

Vassenor wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.


That's from June, but yeah.


Why the hell did they recycle the article. Damn you news. Anyway, it opens the door for abuse and gives us momentum for a Red Scare 2.0. You can't honestly tell me people wouldn't profile or attempt turn in their neighbour over some row rather than "they might actually be a terrorist".

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Postby Arlenton » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:20 am

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Arlenton wrote:There will be no successful uprisings.


How do you know?

Look at the demographics who hate Trump.

Look at the demographics who support Trump.

+ Trump is the commander in chief of the US Military, which favored him over Clinton anyway.

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Postby Narintia » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:20 am

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Arlenton wrote:There will be no successful uprisings.


How do you know?

Because most people that own weaponry are leaning towards the republicans. Best I could see would be a North West vs South East situation.
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Postby Camicon » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:21 am

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Camicon wrote:Have you not been paying attention to the last several months?

I was, and not a single thing was racist or misoginyst.
If anything you're saying makes sense explain how he is.

For starters, we need to establish what "racism" and "misogyny" mean, because I find that more often than not claims that "X isn't racist/bigoted/etc" boil down to, shall we say, a creative interpretation of those key words.

racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior
misogyny - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

You'll notice similarities there, though the definition for racism differs in that is requires a particular motivation. I would argue that the motivation is irrelevant.

If someone's actions display a pattern of prejudice, discrimination, antagonism, dislike of, or contempt for someone based on race/sex, then that person is racist/sexist. Agreed?
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Postby Police state of France » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:23 am

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Police state of France wrote:I was, and not a single thing was racist or misoginyst.
If anything you're saying makes sense explain how he is.

For starters, we need to establish what "racism" and "misogyny" mean, because I find that more often than not claims that "X isn't racist/bigoted/etc" boil down to, shall we say, a creative interpretation of those key words.

racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior
misogyny - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

You'll notice similarities there, though the definition for racism differs in that is requires a particular motivation. I would argue that the motivation is irrelevant.

If someone's actions display a pattern of prejudice, discrimination, antagonism, dislike of, or contempt for someone based on race/sex, then that person is racist/sexist. Agreed?

HE DOES NOT HATE LATINO'S, HE HATES ILLEGALS.

Will. You. Learn.

HE IS NOT A MISOGYNIST

Because, there is, nothing, to suggest, he is.


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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:24 am

Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.


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Postby Flarbinia » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:24 am

What is wrong with people who support the popular vote? They complain about Trump's victory being undemocratic, despite the fact that America is a republic, not a democracy. Don't believe me? Read the Pledge of Allegiance and try to find any mention of democracy. In order to replace the Electoral College, a system created by the Founding Fathers in order to ensure that every America can have a say in politics, with the popular vote, a biased system in which the majority are the only ones who get a say in politics, you need a constitutional amendment, something that requires a two-thirds majority, that will never get ratified by either congress or the states. Regardless of who won the election, you have to play the cards you are dealt, no matter how much you hate it.
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Postby Police state of France » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:25 am

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Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.


"Are you now, or have ever been a member of, the Islamic religion?"

"Have you just implied that we persecute all Muslims?" *sent to detention center*


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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:27 am

Flarbinia wrote:What is wrong with people who support the popular vote? They complain about Trump's victory being undemocratic, despite the fact that America is a republic, not a democracy. Don't believe me? Read the Pledge of Allegiance and try to find any mention of democracy. In order to replace the Electoral College, a system created by the Founding Fathers in order to ensure that every America can have a say in politics, with the popular vote, a biased system in which the majority are the only ones who get a say in politics, you need a constitutional amendment, something that requires a two-thirds majority, that will never get ratified by either congress or the states. Regardless of who won the election, you have to play the cards you are dealt, no matter how much you hate it.


As opposed to the Electoral College, where only people in Swing States can have a say in politics.
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Postby Arlenton » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:27 am

Flarbinia wrote:What is wrong with people who support the popular vote? They complain about Trump's victory being undemocratic, despite the fact that America is a republic, not a democracy. Don't believe me? Read the Pledge of Allegiance and try to find any mention of democracy. In order to replace the Electoral College, a system created by the Founding Fathers in order to ensure that every America can have a say in politics, with the popular vote, a biased system in which the majority are the only ones who get a say in politics, you need a constitutional amendment, something that requires a two-thirds majority, that will never get ratified by either congress or the states.

They feel that it is unfair. Nothing wrong with that, maybe it is, I don't think so, but I may be wrong.

But to say Trump isn't the legitimate President after he beat Clinton fairly and completely within legal boundaries? Lol. Those people don't know how our country works.

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:31 am

Police state of France wrote:
Camicon wrote:For starters, we need to establish what "racism" and "misogyny" mean, because I find that more often than not claims that "X isn't racist/bigoted/etc" boil down to, shall we say, a creative interpretation of those key words.

racism - prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior
misogyny - dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women

You'll notice similarities there, though the definition for racism differs in that is requires a particular motivation. I would argue that the motivation is irrelevant.

If someone's actions display a pattern of prejudice, discrimination, antagonism, dislike of, or contempt for someone based on race/sex, then that person is racist/sexist. Agreed?

HE DOES NOT HATE LATINO'S, HE HATES ILLEGALS.

Will. You. Learn.

HE IS NOT A MISOGYNIST

Because, there is, nothing, to suggest, he is.


I guess you don't consider treating women as if they were his sexual property misogynist.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:33 am

Arlenton wrote:
Maichuko wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-wall-mexican-border-fence-segments/
So Trump admits his wall will have a lot of fence and has lowered his promises of deporting 11 million people to 2 or at most 3 million.

Thank God... Hopefully he governs like a normal Republican.


I don't even know what a "normal Republican" is any more, after the shitshow of the last few years.
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Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
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Postby Hittanryan » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:35 am

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Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.

And, how is this a bad thing?

Because political witch hunts are authoritarian and ineffective. McCarthy infringed upon the rights of American citizens to advance his own career while failing to do any good for the country.

What you don't seem to realize is that if the government is granted authoritarian powers, they can be used against everyone. Eventually you yourself could be affected or even targeted by a government that does not respect the rights of its citizens and just wants to maintain power.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:35 am

Police state of France wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.

And, how is this a bad thing?


Because UAAC was literally just an excuse to lock up whoever the fuck McCarthy didn't like?
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Hittanryan » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:37 am

Arlenton wrote:
Flarbinia wrote:What is wrong with people who support the popular vote? They complain about Trump's victory being undemocratic, despite the fact that America is a republic, not a democracy. Don't believe me? Read the Pledge of Allegiance and try to find any mention of democracy. In order to replace the Electoral College, a system created by the Founding Fathers in order to ensure that every America can have a say in politics, with the popular vote, a biased system in which the majority are the only ones who get a say in politics, you need a constitutional amendment, something that requires a two-thirds majority, that will never get ratified by either congress or the states.

They feel that it is unfair. Nothing wrong with that, maybe it is, I don't think so, but I may be wrong.

But to say Trump isn't the legitimate President after he beat Clinton fairly and completely within legal boundaries? Lol. Those people don't know how our country works.

What Trump isn't worthy of is respect or decency. He gets what he gives.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:37 am

Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.


Can we not start turning to violence, revolution, and terrorism the moment Trump wins? I'd like the Left to be better than the Tea Party.

Trump is horrible, but their are still a lot of non-violent options to oppose him, and political violence is a nightmare that must be reserved for only the most extreme circumstances (like slavery and mass murder).
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:38 am

Salandriagado wrote:
Police state of France wrote:And, how is this a bad thing?


Because UAAC was literally just an excuse to lock up whoever the fuck McCarthy didn't like?

>House Committee
>Just an excuse for a Senator to lock up whoever the fuck they don't like
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Postby Police state of France » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:38 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Police state of France wrote:HE DOES NOT HATE LATINO'S, HE HATES ILLEGALS.

Will. You. Learn.

HE IS NOT A MISOGYNIST

Because, there is, nothing, to suggest, he is.


I guess you don't consider treating women as if they were his sexual property misogynist.

Do you have a single source to back up your useless ramblings.


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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:40 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:New Gingritch wants a new UnAmerican Activities Committee, cites the program that targeted Nazis

And this is why my view has slowly shifted towards the acceptance of an uprising if things like this get implemented.


Can we not start turning to violence, revolution, and terrorism the moment Trump wins? I'd like the Left to be better than the Tea Party...

I don't seem to recall violence, revolution or terrorism springing from Tea Party protests.
In fact, I seem to recall them being protests pretty similar to the ones folks are putting on now...Excepting Portland up-fuckery. I blame hipsters for that, though.
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Postby Corrian » Sun Nov 13, 2016 11:42 am

Police state of France wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
I guess you don't consider treating women as if they were his sexual property misogynist.

Do you have a single source to back up your useless ramblings.

I suggest having actually payed attention to this entire election cycle as a source.
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