Trump's wall

[Salventinia]

Well what many of us thought was unthinkable happened now we need to see if Trump was just saying stuff to get elected or if he's really going to deport 11 million people and force the country he's sending them to, to pay for a possibly 20-50 billion dollar wall.

I think Trump's full of shit If he somehow made Mexico pay for it, the damage to Mexico's economy would probably just inspire even more people to try and cross the border. I hope most of his promises end unfulfilled.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Mexico is obviously going to pay for every golden brick.

[Anollasia]

He will attempt to build a wall. Whether he will succeed is unknown.

[Dooom35796821595]

I hope it's a flood wall, given his attitude towards global climate change.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Even if I believed for one moment that Trump actually wanted to solve the problem if illegal immigration, he will never accomplish it. There is too much money at stake. Too many people make too much money due to the current state of our border; namely porous. The people who really matter and control their particular subset of politicians love a porous border. They don't want an entirely closed and secure border any more than they'd want a completely open border. It's our current porous border that keeps a constant supply of cheap disposable labor that will work for less than minimum wage, don't report OSHA safety violations, don't get worker's compensation if they get injured and generally don't cost employers in payroll taxes. It's just good business sense to keep all the profits associated with illegal labor and get ALL taxpayers to foot the bill for the downsides associated with illegal labor. And our shrewd and powerful business interests have plenty of pull with their pocket politicians to make sure that will never change.

And best of all, the demonized party are the illegal immigrants and not the people that exploit them for huge profits.

[Troperia]

Maybe it's a figurative wall? Like, I dunno, stricter immigration policies?

[The Funeral Party]

The Idea of the wall is just laughable,people can go over and under the wall? How? It's called Logic.

[Dushan]

He's going to build a Wall and make Mexico pay for it.

However the Wall isn't likely going to cover the entire 2000 km nor is it going to be entirely paid by Mexico.

I could imagine that he will announce to raise some Tax on Money Transfers from the US to Mexico or play with the thought to do so, to get the Mexican Government on the Table to make a mutual agreement on how to deal with the immigration problem. It could be as well within a greater agreement regarding NAFTA or the dissolution thereof.

[Gages Icelandic Army]

I feel like one of us should just go ahead and start a gofundme for the wall. Just get it over with. I am not pleased by the wall.

[Free Missouri]

I personally think we'd be better off just flat out using our superior firepower to annex Mexico. then we'd have a 300 mile border and a temporary wall already built.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Maybe it's a figurative wall? Like, I dunno, stricter immigration policies?

No. He specifically said he would build a 90 foot wall across the entire border.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

Maybe it's a figurative wall? Like, I dunno, stricter immigration policies?

No. He specifically said he would build a 90 foot wall across the entire border.

There's a volcano on our shared border. That sounds like a fun construction site.

[Great Nilfgaard]

I doubt we are actually going to build that thing.

[Trotza]

I doubt we are actually going to build that thing.

Saw an interesting/worrying thing predicting that he would have to at least attempt to build the wall, so imperative it would be to his legacy both for him and any reelection campaign, but again, just speculation.

[Gig em Aggies]

No. He specifically said he would build a 90 foot wall across the entire border.

There's a volcano on our shared border. That sounds like a fun construction site.

Hey if the Chinese can build a wall with wooden, stone, and early metal tools then 21st century America can surly build one. Oh and the Volcano you can make it its own country and have people move their if they decide to leave.

[Hobbeebia]

With enough power playing Trump could get the Wall built with Mexico paying for it, but the trade off will be laxing his attempts to deport illegals. And proposing a deeper tax on money transfer is a very good way to make it happen. I run a business where I do a lot of money transfers to Mexico. and if you were to increase the tax from 2.5% to say 10% Steep yes, but doable, the amount of collected tax could in theory pay for that wall. but holding that money ransom to Mexico could bring Mexico to its knees and relent to the building of the wall.

EDIT:

To put the amount of money into perspective. The average transfer I complete on most days is around 5000-7000$. Current Tax is 2.5% which at the normal high of 7000$ we are looking at a tax bill of 175$. Bump that to 10% and thats 700$ a transfer.

I normally do about 30-40 tranfers a week so at 700$ a transfer I would be banking the Fed's about 24,500$ if I get an average of about 35 transfer's a week. Take this into account and factor in that just within my zip code there are roughly 200 International money transfer companies thats becomes an average of about 4,900,000$ in Transfer fees and taxes now factor that times the projected number of just Western Union Locations at roughly 500,000 according to the company, that is an estimated 2,450,000,000,000$ though this is probably much higher than would actually happen probably about a 15% of this would actually occur would still give you an amount of 367,500,000,000$ a week in potential revenue for Trumps Government.

[Baltenstein]

No. He specifically said he would build a 90 foot wall across the entire border.

There's a volcano on our shared border. That sounds like a fun construction site.

Sound like the perfect place to sacrifice pesky immigrants to appease the Great Orange.

[Free Missouri]

Did no one just read my comment where I literally advocated invading mexico? I at least expected people to be outraged by it.

[Hittanryan]

It was always foolish and useless. If North Korean dissidents can tunnel under the DMZ, then a wall on the US-Mexican is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.

[Mascargo]

Did no one just read my comment where I literally advocated invading mexico? I at least expected people to be outraged by it.

Can we just tack on Central America and get it over with?

[Arctica-Aleutia]

Actually, I think it's our duty to build the wall. Mexico needs some way too keep all the weirdos from here in the States out.

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Okay, fine. I think he'll build the wall eventually. He might get Mexico to pay for some of it, but all or part of it will most likely be payed by America. It just seems unlikely that he could get Mexico to pay, unless they saw Trump as a threat, which wouldn't be too good.

[Mascargo]

Okay, fine. I think he'll build the wall eventually. He might get Mexico to pay for some of it, but all or part of it will most likely be payed by America. It just seems unlikely that he could get Mexico to pay, unless they saw Trump as a threat, which wouldn't be too good.

I don't think he'd be able to get Mexico to directly pay for it.

[Vavax]

The wall won't happen because Congress isn't fucking stupid. Republicans may have a massive majority, but the wall won't happen. It's too expensive, and Mexico will never pay for it. Plus Dems in the Senate would filibuster any mention of it, which they can successfully do.

[Sobeiska]

The cost of the wall is less than the amount of foreign aid we give in a year :\, they, and the world will pay for it in that regard if they don't cough up. Trump will also stop money transfers from the United States to Mexico further punching them. He has plan on his website, however, is the wall truly the most effective way? Not really, just step up border patrol, and allow them to actually deport people.

[Hobbeebia]

Even at our absolute worst, Mexico seeing us as a threat doesnt affect us in the slightest. The Mexican military and government has a proven track record of corruption, I doubt it could deal a devastating blow, either militarily or economically. At our best we could in fact get Mexico to pay for the wall either via the method I described above or by simple economic warfare.