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Should Trunp be declared Emperor of the Americas?

1) Yes! Heil dir im sigerkrantz
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2) No we hold these truths to be self-evident...
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3) Make him Tsar of all the Russias instead
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Postby Mascargo » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:50 am

Consecrate Trump. Canonize Trump.

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Postby Kronstad » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:50 am

Yes.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:51 am

Daburuetchi wrote:For all of Trump's attacks against Mexico there's one thing they had that the US of A hasn't: an Emperor (Emperor Norton dosent count).

Mexico has had two emperors, actually- Agustín I de Iturbide and Maximilian I. Trump isn't a tenth of the man that either of them were, nor is he a tenth of the man Joshua Abraham Norton was, for that matter (can you imagine Trump putting himself between an angry mob and a crowd of Chinese citizens and repeating the Lord's Prayer until they dispersed?). Bad emperors can be born into the position, true enough, and I accept that as an unavoidable consequence of hereditary monarchy (which I hasten to add has many advantages to it as well). Choosing someone like Donald Trump as monarch, however, would be insane. He is not fit to serve as progenitor of an imperial dynasty.

And yes, I am aware that the OP is not meant to be taken entirely seriously.
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Postby Ithqington » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:51 am

Well, What about Prince Henry of Prussia?

He is one who try to be King of United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_scheme
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Postby Daburuetchi » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:51 am

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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:51 am

Novus America wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Yes.

Th electoral college will be replaced by electoral princes, they will initiate royal marriages with the Trump family and only pick candidates from among the offspring.


That is what the HRE did. But we will not of course.


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Postby Erutenia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:53 am

"Should Trump be Crowned as Emperor?"
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Postby Autonomous Eastern Ukraine » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:54 am

Ithqington wrote:Well, What about Prince Henry of Prussia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_He ... ssia_(1726–1802)

He is one who try to be King of United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_scheme

A world where America was a German monarchy would be way different.

Would they side with the central powers in WW1 (if WW1 even happened close to how it was originally)?
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Postby Free Rhenish States » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:55 am

Aelex wrote:No. He needs to follow the Napoleonic route and declare himself consul first. :p

Aelex wrote:
Daburuetchi wrote:The 18th of Brumaire was yesterday so I find this proposal fitting historically. What do NSers think?

Well, he is more of a Napoléon III than of Napoléon I.
But the 2 of December is coming soon, so, who knows? ;)

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Postby Saxon-Germania » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:55 am

comedian jim norton for emperor of Amerca he promises us chicks with dicks!!!!!!!

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Postby German Capitalists » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:57 am

Divide the country in half by partisan lines. Trump can be emperor of the liberal half.
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Postby Trigori » Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:59 am

Ithqington wrote:Well, What about Prince Henry of Prussia?

He is one who try to be King of United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_scheme

Might be actually good to have some sort of a neutral ceremonial monarch at the top to provide refuge against the pitchfork-and-torch of the elections...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:00 pm

Praise Augustus Americanus Trumpus!
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:01 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:Yes.

Th electoral college will be replaced by electoral princes, they will initiate royal marriages with the Trump family and only pick candidates from among the offspring.


Does he have enough daughters though?
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Postby Ithqington » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:01 pm

Autonomous Eastern Ukraine wrote:
Ithqington wrote:Well, What about Prince Henry of Prussia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_He ... ssia_(1726–1802)

He is one who try to be King of United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_scheme

A world where America was a German monarchy would be way different.

Would they side with the central powers in WW1 (if WW1 even happened close to how it was originally)?

Well, I don't know.. but I do know a alternate history called "King of America", where Prince Henry of Prussia did became King of United States.
http://althistory.wikia.com/wiki/King_of_America

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Postby Aelex » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:01 pm

Free Rhenish States wrote:FTFY
Didn´t you learn anything from our latest grammar conversation, Aelex? :P I'm watching. :^)

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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:02 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Yes.

Th electoral college will be replaced by electoral princes, they will initiate royal marriages with the Trump family and only pick candidates from among the offspring.


Does he have enough daughters though?


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Postby Novus America » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:08 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:Yes.

Th electoral college will be replaced by electoral princes, they will initiate royal marriages with the Trump family and only pick candidates from among the offspring.


Does he have enough daughters though?


Well he is umm prolific like a cat.
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:09 pm

Okay people, EVERYONE knows that the Emperor joke is a dank meme spread by Trump supporters for fits of giggles. I myself have referred to him as the Emperor in the name of comedy and good humor.
It's the same reason I find this depiction of the election, featuring Trump as Jabba the Hut, to be drop-dead hilarious. It's the same reason "small loan of a million dollars" is the all-time best Trump joke to exist, far exceeding "Hillary Clinton is going to suicide you/Killary" jokes.

On a more serious note, although I am normally a monarchist, I make exceptions for France (for now) and for my own country (the USA). I do not support subversion of our constiutional republic in favor of a monarchy, even a constitutional one. I believe that Trump will adhere to the Constitution, or, at the least, follow it better and more reverently than Obama did or Hillary would have done. He has surrounded himself with strict fans of the Constitution and wants to appoint originalist judges who will strike down things exceeding the Constitution.

Even if Turmp was to turn tyrannical, if he appoints the judges he said he would appoint, they would, ironically enough, be the ones to stop him.
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Postby Maichuko » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:18 pm

I hope so, Then the True Emperor of Mankind can reveal himself and defeat the Chaos champion that's tricked and bullied his way into the presidency. I'm actually tempted to come to college in a robe and shout Latin quotes on the end of times.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:19 pm

Daburuetchi wrote:For all of Trump's attacks against Mexico there's one thing they had that the US of A hasn't: an Emperor (Emperor Norton dosent count)

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Postby Grand Britannia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:22 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:Okay people, EVERYONE knows that the Emperor joke is a dank meme spread by Trump supporters for fits of giggles. I myself have referred to him as the Emperor in the name of comedy and good humor.
It's the same reason I find this depiction of the election, featuring Trump as Jabba the Hut, to be drop-dead hilarious. It's the same reason "small loan of a million dollars" is the all-time best Trump joke to exist, far exceeding "Hillary Clinton is going to suicide you/Killary" jokes.

On a more serious note, although I am normally a monarchist, I make exceptions for France (for now) and for my own country (the USA). I do not support subversion of our constiutional republic in favor of a monarchy, even a constitutional one. I believe that Trump will adhere to the Constitution, or, at the least, follow it better and more reverently than Obama did or Hillary would have done. He has surrounded himself with strict fans of the Constitution and wants to appoint originalist judges who will strike down things exceeding the Constitution.

Even if Turmp was to turn tyrannical, if he appoints the judges he said he would appoint, they would, ironically enough, be the ones to stop him.

He will be the God Emperor.
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Postby Mandicoria II » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:22 pm

Jokes aside: Legitimately asking this is pretty fucking stupid.
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Postby Ithqington » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:25 pm

Mandicoria II wrote:Jokes aside: Legitimately asking this is pretty fucking stupid.

Why people still keep forgot about Prince Henry of Prussia!

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Postby Mandicoria II » Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:26 pm

Ithqington wrote:
Mandicoria II wrote:Jokes aside: Legitimately asking this is pretty fucking stupid.

Why people still keep forgot about Prince Henry of Prussia!

Might wanna fix the grammar so I can understand what you just said.
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