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Postby Australian rePublic » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:07 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Why don't they just wait for 4 years, he's going to be out by that point.

Yea.sussesion will probably tak3 that liong anyway
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Postby Mascargo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:07 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Where did he explicitly say that? Show me.


" I know not everyone supported me but I am reaching out to you to unify the country"

Paraphrased somewhat. From Trump's victory speech.

Yeah, his victory speech was actually decently composed I thought.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:07 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Where did he explicitly say that? Show me.


" I know not everyone supported me but I am reaching out to you to unify the country"

Paraphrased somewhat. From Trump's victory speech.

Source? Video? Audio?
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.
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Postby Habna » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:08 pm

It won't happen but weird things have happened lately and California is the most powerful and independent state in the country maybe tied with Texas if not stronger than.
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Postby San Marlindo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:09 pm

California will collapse without federal subsidies. And besides, any act of armed secesion by the state government will be acted upon by the federalized National Guard and regular US military to preserve the union.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:09 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
" I know not everyone supported me but I am reaching out to you to unify the country"

Paraphrased somewhat. From Trump's victory speech.

Source? Video? Audio?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/trump-speech-transcript.html?_r=0
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Postby Nordic Saxony » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:10 pm

Like Scotland wants to "secede" from the UK but it'll never happen.


Just a few upset teens with a computer is all.
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Postby Stellonia » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:10 pm

From what I can tell, somebody wants to secede from the Union every six months. This will die down soon.
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Postby Losconia » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:10 pm

San Marlindo wrote:California will collapse without federal subsidies. And besides, any act of armed secesion by the state government will be acted upon by the federalized National Guard and regular US military to preserve the union.

California gives more to the Federal Government than it receives, more so I doubt it would be an armed succession. You can peacefully secede from a country you know.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:10 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump has reached out towards Hillary supporters. He wants to unify, peacefully.


Literally every victorious candidate says this. It doesn't mean shit.
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Postby Nordic Saxony » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:11 pm

Stellonia wrote:From what I can tell, somebody wants to secede from the Union every six months. This will die down soon.

Scotland wants to secede from the UK every year, I wouldn't worry about it at all.
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Postby The Underground Movement Union » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:13 pm

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:15 pm

Valaran wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump has reached out towards Hillary supporters. He wants to unify, peacefully.


Literally every victorious candidate says this. It doesn't mean shit.


Its different this time.

It seems he really wants to unify right now, the country is split apart right now.
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Postby Mascargo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:16 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Literally every victorious candidate says this. It doesn't mean shit.


Its different this time.

It seems he really wants to unify right now, the country is split apart right now.

Perhaps, but it does seem you're being a little too optimistic over it. Any winner in their right mind would try to mend the polarizations that the election season caused.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:18 pm

Mascargo wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Its different this time.

It seems he really wants to unify right now, the country is split apart right now.

Perhaps, but it does seem you're being a little too optimistic over it. Any winner in their right mind would try to mend the polarizations that the election season caused.


This was the bitterest campaign in history.

He needs to unify or the could be negative consequences.
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Postby Novus California » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:18 pm

SHIT
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Postby New Axiom » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:18 pm

WAAAH WAAH!!!

Our candidate didn't win, we are going to rage quit the US!!
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Postby Xadufell » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:19 pm

New Axiom wrote:WAAAH WAAH!!!

Our candidate didn't win, we are going to rage quit the US!!


Essentially this.^
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Postby Mascargo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:20 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Mascargo wrote:Perhaps, but it does seem you're being a little too optimistic over it. Any winner in their right mind would try to mend the polarizations that the election season caused.


This was the bitterest campaign in history.

He needs to unify or the could be negative consequences.

The negative consequences being that he won't win reelection come 2020? Because I'm pretty sure that's already set in stone.
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Postby Valaran » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:21 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Literally every victorious candidate says this. It doesn't mean shit.


Its different this time.

It seems he really wants to unify right now, the country is split apart right now.


You've based this off of one speech, in which there is a veritable tradition of saying this exact phrase. Meanwhile the campaign was the most divisive in recent history, and that was in no small due to Trump's behaviour. Trump has everything to gain by saying this, and loses nothing by doing so. It has no effect on whether he will follow through.

At this stage, there is abolsutley no convincing case to assert that it is indeed different. At best, it is rhetoric without substantiation.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:23 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:Source? Video? Audio?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/trump-speech-transcript.html?_r=0

Trmp needs to take action upon what he said with unifying the country. Otherwise, it remains divisive.
In solidarity with Ukraine, I will be censoring the letters Z and V from my signature. This is -ery much so a big change, but it should be a -ery positi-e one. -olodymyr -elensky and A-o- continue to fight for Ukraine while the Russians are still trying to e-entually make their way to Kharki-, -apori-h-hia, and Kry-yi Rih, but that will take time as they are concentrated in areas like Bakhmut, -uledar, and other areas in Donetsk. We will see Shakhtar play in the Europa League but Dynamo Kyi- already got eliminated. Shakhtar managed to play well against Florentino Pere-'s Real Madrid who feature superstars like -inicius, Ben-ema, Car-ajal, and -al-erde. Some prominent Ukrainian players that got big transfers elsewhere include Oleksander -inchenko, Illya -abarnyi, and Mykhailo Mudryk.
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Postby Flarbinia » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:24 pm

Mascargo wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
This was the bitterest campaign in history.

He needs to unify or the could be negative consequences.

The negative consequences being that he won't win reelection come 2020? Because I'm pretty sure that's already set in stone.


People said that Trump losing the election was set in stone and he still won the election fair and square. No vote rigging or voter intimidation.
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Postby United States of Natan » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:25 pm

I hope California achieves secession, and I even started a petition for Connecticut's secession.
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Postby Mascargo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:25 pm

Flarbinia wrote:
Mascargo wrote:The negative consequences being that he won't win reelection come 2020? Because I'm pretty sure that's already set in stone.


People said that Trump losing the election was set in stone and he still won the election fair and square. No vote rigging or voter intimidation.

I'm merely speaking on my assumptions, he could easily prove to be a very popular President that serves two terms. It's too early to say.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Nov 09, 2016 6:26 pm

The move will be quashed by the US military.

Flarbinia wrote:
Mascargo wrote:The negative consequences being that he won't win reelection come 2020? Because I'm pretty sure that's already set in stone.


People said that Trump losing the election was set in stone and he still won the election fair and square. No vote rigging or voter intimidation.

He'll certainly win re-election unless a recession hits in 2019-2020.
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