Californians Call to Secede from the US; "CalExit"

[The Serbian Empire]

I believe neither has the right at this point. Not without a citizen's plebiscite and vote.

I agree.


The problem with people's displeasure is that we want the same country to think the way we do. Every state is different with different needs but people seem to be in the mindset that everything needs to be national or nothing. If we gave the states back a little more autonomy perhaps things would get better. NYC's gun control just won't work in rural Wyoming and people need to accept it.

That's why the US should be balkanized into more manageable segments for governments to utilize with no central bureaucracy on the East Coast in DC. What is needed in the Rust Belt won't work in the Northeast. What works in Kansas won't do in South Central LA.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

...No.
I'm a Californian by birth, Ohioan by chance, and I reject this.
Hillary was right that we are stronger together. We should try and live up to it!

[Ebliania]

...No.
I'm a Californian by birth, Ohioan by chance, and I reject this.
Hillary was right that we are stronger together. We should try and live up to it!

But we'll give them a free trip to Asia!

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Welp, now Californians can't mock us Texans for having Perry the secessionist twat.

[Ebliania]

Welp, now Californians can't mock us Texans for having Perry the secessionist twat.

New England's going to liberate itself soon.

[Hydesland]

*exit has replaced *gate as shitty uncreative naming suffixes.

[Victoriala II]

guys remember that zorro movie

NOT AS AMERICANS

NOT AS MEXICANS

BUT AS CALIFORNIANS

[The United Colonies of Earth]

*exit has replaced *gate as shitty uncreative naming suffixes.

LANGUAGE CHANGE BABY
-EXIT 2016

...No.
I'm a Californian by birth, Ohioan by chance, and I reject this.
Hillary was right that we are stronger together. We should try and live up to it!

But we'll give them a free trip to Asia!

Naah...
California is the best part of the Union.
It must stay.

[Thermodolia]

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.

They won't and they can't. If Clinton had won, the people in Texas would say the same thing.

This. It's not going to happen people will be pissed but that was going to happen either way. The vast majority doesn't want to leave. Though if they did I'd consider moving.

[Thermodolia]

Welp, now Californians can't mock us Texans for having Perry the secessionist twat.

At least we Georgians can mock the both of y'all.

[Shofercia]

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.

I feel that a lot of the rioting, calls for secession, death threats against Trump, ect, are just knee-jerk reactions like people trying to emigrate to Canada (What's wrong with Mexico?).

People need to take stock that America has survived for hundreds of years. While we're definitely not in the best shape, cutting off your arm because you've got AIDS is not a smart way to go about things.

Edit 1: Nervun requested I post my opinion, so there it is. Also fixed my plugging link, it was linking to page 3 for whatever reason.

My opinion: those who want California to secede - just stop. The rest of the state will not back you.

[Thermodolia]

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.



Edit 1: Nervun requested I post my opinion, so there it is. Also fixed my plugging link, it was linking to page 3 for whatever reason.

My opinion: those who want California to secede - just stop. The rest of the state will not back you.

Yup. They are a small bunch. The vast majority of Californians like being apart of the US

[Ebliania]

My opinion: those who want California to secede - just stop. The rest of the state will not back you.

Yup. They are a small bunch. The vast majority of Californians like being apart of the US

We should do a referendum so that it wins 51-49

[Shofercia]

*facepalm*

Worry not Mr. Vader. This has only single digit support.

"Good luck with this whole "secession" thing, you'll need it" -- Your friends in Georgia.

Go ahead, California. Say hello to Greece because you'll be just like them before the month's out.

Actually if we do secede, we won't be the ones that are economically fucked.

Democratic control of Government ---- Texas wants to secede.

Republican control of Government ---- California wants to secede.


This is normal.

They're like twins.

Very dysfunctional twins

Haven't there been California secession movements for years?

Yes. They're at 2%. It's very seriou-

Actually the Pirate Party has more support

I fully support this iniative and hope California secedes. Secession is a human right and a bedrock of my culture, so I am always in favor of secession movements.

That said, I believe that the Six California Iniative is the best decision for the affairs of California.

Not really. It's quite bad.

I hope they succeed. Then maybe we can have every state become their own country... Then they'll have a reason to get better flags.

I like Cali's flag!

[Victoriala II]

*facepalm*

Worry not Mr. Vader. This has only single digit support.

"Good luck with this whole "secession" thing, you'll need it" -- Your friends in Georgia.

Go ahead, California. Say hello to Greece because you'll be just like them before the month's out.

Actually if we do secede, we won't be the ones that are economically fucked.

They're like twins.

Very dysfunctional twins

Haven't there been California secession movements for years?

Yes. They're at 2%. It's very seriou-

Actually the Pirate Party has more support

I fully support this iniative and hope California secedes. Secession is a human right and a bedrock of my culture, so I am always in favor of secession movements.

That said, I believe that the Six California Iniative is the best decision for the affairs of California.

Not really. It's quite bad.

I hope they succeed. Then maybe we can have every state become their own country... Then they'll have a reason to get better flags.

I like Cali's flag!

A lot tho are hella fucking bland

[Tectonix]

I hope California achieves secession, and I even started a petition for Connecticut's secession.

Uh huh, and Houston will become a citystate.

[Gawdzendia]

Man, this is the closest I'll ever get to a realized Cascadia.

[Tectonix]

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.



Edit 1: Nervun requested I post my opinion, so there it is. Also fixed my plugging link, it was linking to page 3 for whatever reason.

My opinion: those who want California to secede - just stop. The rest of the state will not back you.

Well, when this proposal becomes more mainstream, and with Trump's policies begin to take shape, your claim will begin to lose some steam, even if the referendum doesn't happen.

[Victoriala II]

Man, this is the closest I'll ever get to a realized Cascadia.

Pray for a Cali-Cascadia alliance

[Montchevre]

Actually, I'm pretty sure that unlike Texas, California retained the right to secede. Still really stupid though; the legality isn't exactly the point.

[Candro]

The closest I've come to see the stare of Jefferson
As a Cali native these people from central are acting retarded

[Korhe]

The president won fair amd square. The people voted and Trump is now the president. Hilary acknowledged this, even bowing down to America's holy laws.
Don't be cry babies California. You will find ample welcome in Canada if all the liberals want to leave;)

Really? I read somewhere that Canada's locking down their southern border to stop Americans from sneaking in.

[Gawdzendia]

The president won fair amd square. The people voted and Trump is now the president. Hilary acknowledged this, even bowing down to America's holy laws.
Don't be cry babies California. You will find ample welcome in Canada if all the liberals want to leave;)

Really? I read somewhere that Canada's locking down their southern border to stop Americans from sneaking in.

Well after receiving 11.5 million immigration applications (a.k.a. about one third of the current total Canadian population) it doesn't surprise me.
Frankly, the Hillary camp is being a bit reactionary.

[Shofercia]

Welp, now Californians can't mock us Texans for having Perry the secessionist twat.

Yes we can. You guys elected him as Governor

A lot tho are hella fucking bland

They can change theirs, I don't mind

My opinion: those who want California to secede - just stop. The rest of the state will not back you.

Well, when this proposal becomes more mainstream, and with Trump's policies begin to take shape, your claim will begin to lose some steam, even if the referendum doesn't happen.

I'm all for having the Referendum. I'm just letting you know that it'll be incredibly lopsided.

[Ebliania]

Welp, now Californians can't mock us Texans for having Perry the secessionist twat.

Yes we can. You guys elected him as Governor

A lot tho are hella fucking bland

They can change theirs, I don't mind

Well, when this proposal becomes more mainstream, and with Trump's policies begin to take shape, your claim will begin to lose some steam, even if the referendum doesn't happen.

I'm all for having the Referendum. I'm just letting you know that it'll be incredibly lopsided.

Then Caliexit happens