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Californians Call to Secede from the US; "CalExit"

Postby Karjin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:06 pm

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit- ... de-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

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NERVUN wrote:*snip*
Now, what are YOUR thoughts on this? That needs to be stated in the OP if you please.


I feel that a lot of the rioting, calls for secession, death threats against Trump, ect, are just knee-jerk reactions like people trying to emigrate to Canada (What's wrong with Mexico?).

People need to take stock that America has survived for hundreds of years. While we're definitely not in the best shape, cutting off your arm because you've got AIDS is not a smart way to go about things.


Edit 1: Nervun requested I post my opinion, so there it is. Also fixed my plugging link, it was linking to page 3 for whatever reason.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:07 pm

Karjin wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.

They won't and they can't. If Clinton had won, the people in Texas would say the same thing.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:07 pm

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Postby Germanic Templars » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:07 pm

Karjin wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.


Well considering Texas couldn't secede when Obama was elected then they wont be able to either.

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Postby Redsection » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:07 pm

The liberals cried and yelped no when Texas wanted to leave .......and now the liberals want to leave ? Oh the hypocrisy !
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:08 pm

Just like the UK broke up.
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Postby Novorobo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:08 pm

Polar Svalbard wrote:
Karjin wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.

They won't and they can't. If Clinton had won, the people in Texas would say the same thing.

Good. Leave the states to their own devices and we'll see find out which societies work better soon enough.
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Postby NERVUN » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:08 pm

Karjin wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Following this post (yes, I'm plugging my own forum post in another forum post, how horrifying), Californians declare an intent to to secede from the United States to become its own independent nation after the election of Donald Trump.

What are your thoughts on the possibility of most (or all of the US West Coast) seceding from the US and becoming it's own sovereign power?

NationStates is bleeding into real life, guys.

Now, what are YOUR thoughts on this? That needs to be stated in the OP if you please.
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Postby Muinordgrad » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:09 pm

"Good luck with this whole "secession" thing, you'll need it" -- Your friends in Georgia.

But really, the last thing we need right now is blood in the streets.
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Postby Mascargo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:09 pm

They can call all they want. They aren't leaving.

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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:09 pm

Btw, I love how the article starts out with "A fringe political group..."

And suddenly it's the liberals wanting to secede.
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Postby Mascargo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:12 pm

Galloism wrote:Btw, I love how the article starts out with "A fringe political group..."

And suddenly it's the liberals wanting to secede.

You weren't aware that probably less than a few hundred people represent all liberals in California?

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Postby Telconi » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:12 pm

Galloism wrote:Btw, I love how the article starts out with "A fringe political group..."

And suddenly it's the liberals wanting to secede.


Turnabout's fair play

If the Democrats can label an entire party with various "-ist"s based upon the actions of a slim few why can't the reverse happen?
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:13 pm

Telconi wrote:
Galloism wrote:Btw, I love how the article starts out with "A fringe political group..."

And suddenly it's the liberals wanting to secede.


Turnabout's fair play

If the Democrats can label an entire party with various "-ist"s based upon the actions of a slim few why can't the reverse happen?

The problem is that you took one of those slim few "-ist"s and made him president.
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Not happening~~~
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Postby Benuty » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:14 pm

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:14 pm

I strongly oppose this.

This is a Left wing version of the Tea Party, engaging in secessionist rhetoric which will either go nowhere, or in the unlikely event that it did, risk armed conflict.

We should be talking about how to make this country better, not how to leave it.
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Postby Roman Catholic Britain » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:15 pm

The president won fair amd square. The people voted and Trump is now the president. Hilary acknowledged this, even bowing down to America's holy laws.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:15 pm

If they try they'll get reintegrated forcefully.

In fact, they won't get reintegrated because they never legally left.
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Postby Adfrana » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:16 pm

Democratic control of Government ---- Texas wants to secede.

Republican control of Government ---- California wants to secede.


This is normal.

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Postby Free Tristania » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:17 pm

Go ahead, California. Say hello to Greece because you'll be just like them before the month's out. :rofl:
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Postby Karjin » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:17 pm

NERVUN wrote:*snip*
Now, what are YOUR thoughts on this? That needs to be stated in the OP if you please.


I feel that a lot of the rioting, calls for secession, death threats against Trump, ect, are just knee-jerk reactions like people trying to emigrate to Canada (What's wrong with Mexico?).

People need to take stock that America has survived for hundreds of years. While we're definitely not in the best shape, cutting off your arm because you've got AIDS is not a smart way to go about things.
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Postby Nusaresa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:18 pm

Adfrana wrote:Democratic control of Government ---- Texas wants to secede.

Republican control of Government ---- California wants to secede.


This is normal.

They're like twins.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:19 pm

I'm totally down with this.
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Postby Ebliania » Wed Nov 09, 2016 5:19 pm

In fact we'll give 'em a boost and saw off the state entirely so that they get a free trip to Asia!

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