Should the US switch to popular vote vs. electoral college?

[Alvecia]

"SJW is the answer, what is the question?"

Who invented the strawmen that SJW's don't use?

Go to a college campus and try to talk about free speech in a meaningful way. I'm all for equal rights. But there are people on the left who want the government to control language and that, my friend, is just plain stupid.

There are people on the right who want the same thing, I don't see your point.

[The New Union of American States]

Go to a college campus and try to talk about free speech in a meaningful way. I'm all for equal rights. But there are people on the left who want the government to control language and that, my friend, is just plain stupid.

There are people on the right who want the same thing, I don't see your point.

Then pay attention to the news.

[Nazis in Space]

Personally, I'm with Alexander The Great (blessed by his infalliability, greatest of the Founding Fathers).

The strongest shall rule.

The Presidency should be decided at Wrestlemania.

[Alvecia]

There are people on the right who want the same thing, I don't see your point.

Then pay attention to the news.

That's got nothing to do with the point.

[The New Union of American States]

Then pay attention to the news.

That's got nothing to do with the point.

I'm done with you.

[Big Jim P]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

[The New Union of American States]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Amen.

[Salandriagado]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Or, you know, you have the faintest trace of respect for the concept of all votes being equal.

[Alvecia]

That's got nothing to do with the point.

I'm done with you.

Way to shut down discussion

[The New Union of American States]

I'm done with you.

Way to shut down discussion

You can keep talking. I just prefer to argue with people who know how to argue. By all means, be my guest.

[Alvecia]

Way to shut down discussion

You can keep talking. I just prefer to argue with people who know how to argue. By all means, be my guest.

Rich, coming from someone who's "argument" was "watch the news".

[The New Union of American States]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Or, you know, you have the faintest trace of respect for the concept of all votes being equal.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10 ... e-hillary/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/g ... ats-229856
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/10/2 ... le-voting/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... er-america
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/ ... a-n2168330

[Big Jim P]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Or, you know, you have the faintest trace of respect for the concept of all votes being equal.

So you think NE and the west coast are more important than the rest of the nation. Gotcha.

[Salandriagado]

Or, you know, you have the faintest trace of respect for the concept of all votes being equal.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10 ... e-hillary/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/g ... ats-229856
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/10/2 ... le-voting/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... er-america
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/ ... a-n2168330

Which of those has any relevance whatsoever to my post?

[Nazis in Space]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Indeed. This could only possible work if we added some sort of counter-balancing factor. Let's say, a second chamber to the parliament, which gets exactly two seats per state, thus giving the large, but thinly populated states the means to counterbalance the population-heavy states.

I propose that we call this hypothetical second chamber a 'Senate' in a callback to the Roman Republic of old.

[Great Nepal]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Or if you''d prefer if Californian citizens weren't worth a third of Wyoming citizens electorally speaking.

[Alvecia]

Or, you know, you have the faintest trace of respect for the concept of all votes being equal.

So you think NE and the west coast are more important than the rest of the nation. Gotcha.

Arguably is a single person is worth a single vote, then the areas with more people are worth more votes.
Preventing the rural areas from being completely ignored is important yes, but I don't think making them the sole focus to the detriment of urban areas is the solution.

[The New Union of American States]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10 ... e-hillary/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/g ... ats-229856
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/10/2 ... le-voting/
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... er-america
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/ ... a-n2168330

Which of those has any relevance whatsoever to my post?

You can't always trust the popular vote because some parties like to cheat. The EC allows for close races to be decided in a much more decisive manner and ensures that the citizens of each State are represented appropriately in this REPUBLIC. Even Bernie Sanders thinks we should keep the EC.

[Salandriagado]

Or, you know, you have the faintest trace of respect for the concept of all votes being equal.

So you think NE and the west coast are more important than the rest of the nation. Gotcha.

Yes, I think that larger groups should have more say in elections than smaller groups. Welcome to democracy.

[Salandriagado]

Which of those has any relevance whatsoever to my post?

You can't always trust the popular vote because some parties like to cheat. The EC allows for close races to be decided in a much more decisive manner and ensures that the citizens of each State are represented appropriately in this REPUBLIC.

Voter fraud is negligible. How, exactly, is having some people's vote be worth more than others in any way fair? What exactly is the relevance of the word "republic"?

[Forsher]

The only reason to drop the EC is if you want the nation dominated by the west coast and New England. Unreasonable at best.

Or if you''d prefer if Californian citizens weren't worth a third of Wyoming citizens electorally speaking.

Not that anyone actually seriously interested in winning an election would sacrifice huge swathes of the American populace in the arrogant belief they could win every single vote they need by getting massive turnouts and massive support from a select few areas of the country...

[Big Jim P]

So you think NE and the west coast are more important than the rest of the nation. Gotcha.

Yes, I think that larger groups should have more say in elections than smaller groups. Welcome to democracy.

Democracy is inherently flawed. Welcome to the Republic.

[Salandriagado]

Yes, I think that larger groups should have more say in elections than smaller groups. Welcome to democracy.

Democracy is inherently flawed. Welcome to the Republic.

What, exactly, do you think "republic" means? Because it sure as fuck doesn't have anything to do with electoral systems.

[Big Jim P]

You can't always trust the popular vote because some parties like to cheat. The EC allows for close races to be decided in a much more decisive manner and ensures that the citizens of each State are represented appropriately in this REPUBLIC.

Voter fraud is negligible. How, exactly, is having some people's vote be worth more than others in any way fair? What exactly is the relevance of the word "republic"?

California allows illegal aliens to vote. The very definition of voter fraud. As long as that is the case, NONE of the votes from Cali should count.

[Salandriagado]

Voter fraud is negligible. How, exactly, is having some people's vote be worth more than others in any way fair? What exactly is the relevance of the word "republic"?

California allows illegal aliens to vote. The very definition of voter fraud. As long as that is the case, NONE of the votes from Cali should count.

Yeah, no part of that is true. I notice that you also completely ignored the point.