Why do people have a dystopian outlook of a trump presidency

[Yorkers]

I dunno, the 1980's were a pretty good time to be making gats

1980s America as visualized through movies like Fast Times at Ridgemont High and retrowave music is pretty comfy, though.

[Thermodolia]

The 1980's were the best, anyone who says otherwise is a hater.

The 1980s had the best music, aesthetic, and youth culture.

However, the 1950s top it when it comes to economics, and the 1920s top it when it comes to politics.

1990's. No Cold War, no war on terror, booming economy, the beginning of the Internet and cell phones, Presidents getting blow jobs in the oval, and my birth. What more could y'all ask for?!

[BB-61 Iowa]

I like the 90's. No Cold War, booming economy, and presidents getting off in the oval.

pffft, the Cold War was the best

We all miss the Soviets deep down, it gave us something to hate when we needed unity the most.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The 1980s had the best music, aesthetic, and youth culture.

However, the 1950s top it when it comes to economics, and the 1920s top it when it comes to politics.

1990's. No Cold War, no war on terror, booming economy, the beginning of the Internet and cell phones, Presidents getting blow jobs in the oval, and my birth. What more could y'all ask for?!

Avoiding the last two

I joke <3

[Dushan]

Sure, and we already greatly monitor the Internet. I don't see him doing anything too crazy on that front myself.



The 1980's were the best, anyone who says otherwise is a hater.

I like the 90's. No Cold War, booming economy, and presidents getting off in the oval.

I am actually old enough to remember the 1990s and vividly so. It was indeed a great Time, Internet wasn't really a thing beyond dial up Modems but PCs were already a thing. There was also an slight optimism around, albeit it was very superficial. Stuff was increasingly progressing and open. Politically it was also not too bad, despite several of the later desastrous developments had their beginnings in this decade. (this from an German)

[New haven america]

Actually, while it's not possible to set up a kill switch, it is very much possible to restrict or monitor the Internet, similar to how China restricts/monitors it or how NK has set up an Intranet.

In NK nobody but the higher ups are allowed to have a computer, let alone access the Internet.

Ok, that's blatantly false. Most NK schools, libraries, and "Businesses" have computers that are connected to the government's Intranet (It's like the Internet, and is actually connected to the Internet, but is completely cut off from any other websites/information sources that aren't run by NK's government).

Higher ups in the government are allowed to use the regular internet though, but IIRC, the government monitors their Internet use.

[Yorkers]

The 1980s had the best music, aesthetic, and youth culture.

However, the 1950s top it when it comes to economics, and the 1920s top it when it comes to politics.

1990's. No Cold War, no war on terror, booming economy, the beginning of the Internet and cell phones, Presidents getting blow jobs in the oval, and my birth. What more could y'all ask for?!

The 1990s also had the LA Riots, the OJ Trial, NAFTA, a president getting impeached, the Yugoslav wars, the end of rock music, incredibly annoying Baby Boomer nostalgia, and neoconservatism's take over of the US government.

[Yorkers]

pffft, the Cold War was the best

We all miss the Soviets deep down, it gave us something to hate when we needed unity the most.

The geopolitical situation of the Cold War was arguably superior to the current mess with the War on Terror, migrant crises, ISIS, the War on Drugs, and the rise of China.

The Soviets were much more respectable and straightforward.

[New haven america]

1. Well, yeah, excluding the Trump election this is historically the best time to be alive socially and economically in the US.
1A. It's "Let's", not "Lets".

2. Yes, and it shows how you're wrong. I'm glad you're taking this loss so well.

I don't see how, I'm not the one nitpicking grammar.

Gay marriage is legal and Jim Crow laws don't exist in this day and age, while back in the 50's, changes like that would be inconceivable. That's already a huge step up comparatively.

Grammar, young one, is the basis of being able to debate well (Unless you're not debating in your native language, then you have some leeway for grammatical mistakes and errors).

[Thermodolia]

1990's. No Cold War, no war on terror, booming economy, the beginning of the Internet and cell phones, Presidents getting blow jobs in the oval, and my birth. What more could y'all ask for?!

The 1990s also had the LA Riots, the OJ Trial, NAFTA, a president getting impeached, the Yugoslav wars, the end of rock music, incredibly annoying Baby Boomer nostalgia, and neoconservatism's take over of the US government.

Each decade has it downsides

[New haven america]

1990's. No Cold War, no war on terror, booming economy, the beginning of the Internet and cell phones, Presidents getting blow jobs in the oval, and my birth. What more could y'all ask for?!

The 1990s also had the LA Riots, the OJ Trial, NAFTA, a president getting impeached, the Yugoslav wars, the end of rock music, incredibly annoying Baby Boomer nostalgia, and neoconservatism's take over of the US government.

I wasn't aware Baby Boomer nostalgia was just a 90's thing.

[Yorkers]

I don't see how, I'm not the one nitpicking grammar.

Gay marriage is legal and Jim Crow laws don't exist in this day and age, while back in the 50's, changes like that would be inconceivable. That's already a huge step up comparatively.

But we also have problems that people in the 1950s didn't, such as AIDs, higher income inequality, worse public schools (American public school students were considered the smartest people in the world in the 1950s), a more consumerist culture, and a whole host of negative culture changes.

Also, when compared to the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and even early 2000s for many areas, the 1950s were much safer and far lower crime rates.

[Yorkers]

The 1990s also had the LA Riots, the OJ Trial, NAFTA, a president getting impeached, the Yugoslav wars, the end of rock music, incredibly annoying Baby Boomer nostalgia, and neoconservatism's take over of the US government.

I wasn't aware Baby Boomer nostalgia was just a 90's thing.

It didn't kick off until Forrest Gump came out.

[BB-61 Iowa]

I don't see how, I'm not the one nitpicking grammar.

Gay marriage is legal and Jim Crow laws don't exist in this day and age, while back in the 50's, changes like that would be inconceivable. That's already a huge step up comparatively.

Grammar, young one, is the basis of being able to debate well (Unless you're not debating in your native language, then you have some leeway for grammatical mistakes).

I'm not even debating, it's just a simple fact that none of those things are inherent to the 50s, nor am I calling for prosecution against minorities.

We have plenty of shit today, you may think it's less than in the 50s, but it's still there. If we just focus on the bad of every era might as well just hate being alive.

We all miss the Soviets deep down, it gave us something to hate when we needed unity the most.

The geopolitical situation of the Cold War was arguably superior to the current mess with the War on Terror, migrant crises, ISIS, the War on Drugs, and the rise of China.

The Soviets were much more respectable and straightforward.

I agree, the Soviets were actually the better opponent.

[Dushan]

I wasn't aware Baby Boomer nostalgia was just a 90's thing.

It didn't kick off until Forrest Gump came out.

Thats interesting. Here in Germany we had and have that too, albeit it really started out in the early 00s and it was mostly related to the "68er" Era.

[Yorkers]

It didn't kick off until Forrest Gump came out.

Thats interesting. Here in Germany we had and have that too, albeit it really started out in the early 00s and it was mostly related to the "68er" Era.

Right now, 1980s retro is in vogue in America (even preppy clothes have been a huge comeback), and I freakin' love it, because the 1980s aesthetic is fucking cool.

Much better than the cringey 90s crazy everyone went through a few years ago with snapback hats and a sudden obsession with the Michael Jordan-era Chicago Bulls.

[UniversalCommons]

Because he named white supremacists, climate change deniers, creationists and conspiracy theorists in his transition team ? What can you expect but disaster from such a bunch of lunatics ?

Then he provoked the crazier side of the left, Bernie Sanders who vowed revenge recently for Trumps positions and cabinets. This was followed by rallies of white nationalists where the anti-nazi leftists came out of the woodwork and attacked the white nationalists.

Watch the violent left come out of the woodwork, the people who chain themselves to trees, go to KKK rallies so they can beat people up come out of the woodwork en masse. It has been a long time since there has been open street fighting in the United States. Right now, the left has a lot more experience with this with Occupy Wall Street and street protests around police violence.

Expect things to get very interesting. Four years from now, there will be a very different party on the left with a different message.

There is a huge disenfranchised group of people in the United States right now. They are put out of work because of automation and technology. There is no place for these people, Trump got to them, traditional job programs mean nothing to these people. What Clinton promised meant nothing to them-- the promises were not for the rust belt, the lost farmer, etc. They want the jobs to return somehow... to live in a place where they have a meaningful factory job.

[Saiwania]

By not saying anything on the fact the LGBT Americans didn't have rights in the 50s

Well back then, LGBT didn't even exist as a thing. If you didn't fit into the gender binary and expected roles, you were just treated as a weirdo. Conservatives generally speaking, absolutely love that by definition, because it fits into their ideal society.

[Yorkers]

By not saying anything on the fact the LGBT Americans didn't have rights in the 50s

Well back then, LGBT didn't even exist as a thing. If you didn't fit into the gender binary and expected roles, you were just treated as a weirdo.

Imagine explaining to someone from the 1950s what a genderqueer, mtf transwoman was.

[New haven america]

Gay marriage is legal and Jim Crow laws don't exist in this day and age, while back in the 50's, changes like that would be inconceivable. That's already a huge step up comparatively.

Grammar, young one, is the basis of being able to debate well (Unless you're not debating in your native language, then you have some leeway for grammatical mistakes).

I'm not even debating, it's just a simple fact that none of those things are inherent to the 50s, nor am I calling for prosecution against minorities.

We have plenty of shit today, you may think it's less than in the 50s, but it's still there. If we just focus on the bad of every era might as well just hate being alive.

No, those things were very much inherent to the 50's.

Actually, excluding Trump, I would much rather live in the 2010's, I personally like being able to share my opinions without the risk of being ostracised or arrested because of my political beliefs, something which did happen for a good chunk of the 50's.

[Yorkers]

I'm not even debating, it's just a simple fact that none of those things are inherent to the 50s, nor am I calling for prosecution against minorities.

We have plenty of shit today, you may think it's less than in the 50s, but it's still there. If we just focus on the bad of every era might as well just hate being alive.

No, those things were very much inherent to the 50's.

Actually, excluding Trump, I would much rather live in the 2010's, I personally like being able to share my opinions without the risk of being ostracised or arrested because of my political beliefs.

I'd like to live in the 1920s for the exact same reason.

Imagine that.

[The first Galactic Republic]

I'm not even debating, it's just a simple fact that none of those things are inherent to the 50s, nor am I calling for prosecution against minorities.

We have plenty of shit today, you may think it's less than in the 50s, but it's still there. If we just focus on the bad of every era might as well just hate being alive.

No, those things were very much inherent to the 50's.

But also the 40's, and the 30's, and the entire early 20th century, and the entire 19th century, and the entire 18th century.

[New haven america]

No, those things were very much inherent to the 50's.

Actually, excluding Trump, I would much rather live in the 2010's, I personally like being able to share my opinions without the risk of being ostracised or arrested because of my political beliefs.

I'd like to live in the 1920s for the exact same reason.

Imagine that.

Only reason I'd go to the 20's is to make some very good business and stock decisions, then sell all of it right before 10/28/1928.

Oh, and flappers, they seem like fun people to be around.

[BB-61 Iowa]

No, those things were very much inherent to the 50's.

But also the 40's, and the 30's, and the entire early 20th century, and the entire 19th century, and the entire 18th century.

No, didn't you hear, racism and sexism was only invented on the 50s.

[Saiwania]

Imagine explaining to someone from the 1950s what a genderqueer, mtf transwoman was.

Part of it was that there really was no such thing as a sex change back then in terms of it being accessible or socially accepted. People were born into a male or female body and either they were comfortable with it or they weren't, but had to just accept it anyways.