Why do people have a dystopian outlook of a trump presidency

[BB-61 Iowa]

The 50s is one of my favorite decades in US history.

So a time when abortion was illegal, African Americans couldn't vote in many states, LGBT people had no rights, there was a draft is all ok with you? Im not ok with being a second class citizen.

It was also considered the golden age of capitalism where the top earners didn't completely eclipse everyone else.

Everything is bad when you nitpick.

[Dushan]

When I started to see FL, NC and OH turn red, when WI and MI started to fall into Trumps camp on the map, I remember I was listening to this, now every time I listen to it, memories of PA going red return. It feels surreal to me tbh, like the light at the end of the tunnel, those states came out and handed Trump the victory.

I was so damn excited for the rest of the week, I couldn't even concentrate in class. I hadn't felt that happy over the future in a long time. Course, what was probably the best part was proving to the smug supporters that media bias and listing buzzwords doesn't work anymore.

so a candidate who doesnt believe in climate change and has wants to return to the 1950s is ok with you?

To me he seems more be headed going be to the 80s which would be totally glorious.

[New haven america]

The 50s is one of my favorite decades in US history.

So a time when abortion was illegal, African Americans couldn't vote in many states, LGBT people had no rights, there was a draft is all ok with you? Im not ok with being a second class citizen.

And you could be blackballed or arrested for your political beliefs.

[San Lumen]

So a time when abortion was illegal, African Americans couldn't vote in many states, LGBT people had no rights, there was a draft is all ok with you? Im not ok with being a second class citizen.

It was also considered the golden age of capitalism where the top earners didn't completely eclipse everyone else.

Everything is bad when you nitpick.

Well thats the only good thing but everything is not worth going back to. I for one am going to fight like hell to protect my rights. Im not going back to being second class citizen.

[Cannot think of a name]

So a time when abortion was illegal, African Americans couldn't vote in many states, LGBT people had no rights, there was a draft is all ok with you? Im not ok with being a second class citizen.

It was also considered the golden age of capitalism where the top earners didn't completely eclipse everyone else.

Everything is bad when you nitpick.

Yeah, they're just your rights to exist and be who you are and live in safety. Why let that stand in the way of selling Coca Cola you selfish bastards...

[The United States of the South Pole]

When I started to see FL, NC and OH turn red, when WI and MI started to fall into Trumps camp on the map, I remember I was listening to this, now every time I listen to it, memories of PA going red return. It feels surreal to me tbh, like the light at the end of the tunnel, those states came out and handed Trump the victory.

I was so damn excited for the rest of the week, I couldn't even concentrate in class. I hadn't felt that happy over the future in a long time. Course, what was probably the best part was proving to the smug supporters that media bias and listing buzzwords doesn't work anymore.

so a candidate who doesnt believe in climate change and has wants to return to the 1950s is ok with you?

>Trump will turn this country back 50 years
When will this meme die?
Trump's states rights on many issues and has so many pro-worker positions that I really have no idea why liberals are so dissatisfied with his election. He wants to give women six weeks time off after delivery, work against multinational corporations that occupy wall street was protesting against, and is trying his best to get people in the middle east into safe cities. Honestly the only big problems the common liberal should have with Trump's Presidency is his position on Muslims and Environmentalism. Do you really think Trump's policies are really as bad as say, Mitt Romney?

[BB-61 Iowa]

It was also considered the golden age of capitalism where the top earners didn't completely eclipse everyone else.

Everything is bad when you nitpick.

Well thats the only good thing but everything is not worth going back to. I for one am going to fight like hell to protect my rights. Im not going back to being second class citizen.

Trump's not going to bring back segregation and hunt the LGBT. Good Lord this is going beyond slippery slope.

[San Lumen]

Well thats the only good thing but everything is not worth going back to. I for one am going to fight like hell to protect my rights. Im not going back to being second class citizen.

Trump's not going to bring back segregation and hunt the LGBT. Good Lord this is going beyond slippery slope.

I do not trust anything he says or a Republican Supreme Court to protect my rights.

[New haven america]

Well thats the only good thing but everything is not worth going back to. I for one am going to fight like hell to protect my rights. Im not going back to being second class citizen.

Trump's not going to bring back segregation and hunt the LGBT. Good Lord this is going beyond slippery slope.

No, that's his VP's and AG's job.

[San Lumen]

Trump's not going to bring back segregation and hunt the LGBT. Good Lord this is going beyond slippery slope.

No, that's his VP's and AG's job.

Yup and i dont think he even won legitimately. I think there was fraud in Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin. The exit polls were way off and the margin in South Florida and and with early vote in makes no mathematical sense for her to have lost the state.

[Longweather]

Because the media has been so partisan that it is insane. In all my years I have not once seen such a massive bias in the media against any political figure other than random dictators.

I've gotten to the point where any negative thing about the election can be blamed on American news media. Protests of varying degrees of violence? Blame the news media for taking sound bites out of context and reporting doom-saying as fact. Uptick in various hate crimes and sexual assaults of various degrees of authenticity? Blame the news media for doom-saying that this would happen which gives some horrible people the idea that they can do so. Trump becoming the presumptive President-Elect? Blame the news media for giving him an insane amount of news coverage (Trump has this ability that Romney or McCain didn't have in which he shrugs off and feeds off of negative statements so their negativity didn't hurt him much) and taking this weird dude literally instead of seriously.

Basically, American news media and journalism is essentially a cesspool and not worth the time, energy, or money to read. For this, I blame the internet.

[Gauthier]

So a time when abortion was illegal, African Americans couldn't vote in many states, LGBT people had no rights, there was a draft is all ok with you? Im not ok with being a second class citizen.

And you could be blackballed or arrested for your political beliefs.

Or merely on the suspicion of your political beliefs.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well thats the only good thing but everything is not worth going back to. I for one am going to fight like hell to protect my rights. Im not going back to being second class citizen.

Trump's not going to bring back segregation

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/17/trump- ... -registry/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... cker-says/

and hunt the LGBT. Good Lord this is going beyond slippery slope.

Yes, your characterizations of that posters very real concerns was beyond a slippery slope..

[San Lumen]

Trump's not going to bring back segregation

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/17/trump- ... -registry/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... cker-says/

and hunt the LGBT. Good Lord this is going beyond slippery slope.

Yes, your characterizations of that posters very real concerns was beyond a slippery slope..

I suggest people watch the movie V for Vendetta. Its never hit closer to home than now.

[Saiwania]

I don't think he even won legitimately. I think there was fraud in Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin. The exit polls were way off and the margin in South Florida and and with early vote in makes no mathematical sense for her to have lost the state.

It makes perfect sense if you know that Democratic turnout was low this year. People stayed home thinking that there was no way Hillary Clinton wasn't going to win. The Democrats did a poor job of protecting their blue wall states.

[New haven america]

Yes, actually, life was marginally better under Obama then it was under Bush.

I'd take the guy who gave us seven straight years of job growth, over the one who points fingers and casts blame everytime something goes wrong any day.

Oh, I agree, Obama was great, especially because he didn't run the country into the ground over the course of 6-9 months (Like what Bush did).

[San Lumen]

I don't think he even won legitimately. I think there was fraud in Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin. The exit polls were way off and the margin in South Florida and and with early vote in makes no mathematical sense for her to have lost the state.

It makes perfect sense if you know that Democratic turnout was low this year. People stayed home thinking that there was no way Hillary Clinton wasn't going to win. The Democrats did a poor job of protecting their blue wall states.

Ive seen no evidence democratic turnout was low.

[BB-61 Iowa]

Trump's not going to bring back segregation

http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/17/trump- ... -registry/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mor ... cker-says/

Oh boy, registries are segregation.
Wonder if people that want a registry of guns purchased also want to segregate gun owners from non owners.

Yes, your characterizations of that posters very real concerns was beyond a slippery slope..

Ah yes, the media fear mongering, because they've been correct all of this time, right?

[New haven america]

I don't think he even won legitimately. I think there was fraud in Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, and Wisconsin. The exit polls were way off and the margin in South Florida and and with early vote in makes no mathematical sense for her to have lost the state.

It makes perfect sense if you know that Democratic turnout was low this year. People stayed home thinking that there was no way Hillary Clinton wasn't going to win. The Democrats did a poor job of protecting their blue wall states.

Popular Vote results disagree, by 1.3 mil.

[Saiwania]

Ive seen no evidence democratic turnout was low.

The amount of Democratic votes cast is the lowest this year since 1996. Republicans did worse than 2008 and 2012 in terms of votes, but still matched the Democratic turnout closely enough to pull off a victory in the electoral college.

[The United States of the South Pole]

I'd take the guy who gave us seven straight years of job growth, over the one who points fingers and casts blame everytime something goes wrong any day.

Oh, I agree, Obama was great, especially because he didn't run the country into the ground over the course of 6-9 months (Like what Bush did).

Obama didn't actually make any new jobs other than the jobs he made for Obamacare. Nothing in the private sector, he just changed the definition on what it means to be working class. So people eventually fell out of what the government considers working class. Hell, are we not going to forget how he threw money at the car companies just for them to be outsourced to mexico?
Obama wasn't a bad president, I have a few problems with him. But I think it's more reasonable to say he was an average president with a lot of successful actions but a failure at accomplishing the promises he made. A good amount of Republicans voted for him first term cause he offered a swift end to the war in the middle east or his neutral to positive position on school vouchers after all.

[San Lumen]

It makes perfect sense if you know that Democratic turnout was low this year. People stayed home thinking that there was no way Hillary Clinton wasn't going to win. The Democrats did a poor job of protecting their blue wall states.

Popular Vote results disagree, by 1.3 mil.

That only should be grounds for audit. I dont know why Obama isn't calling for it. I would.

[Saiwania]

Popular Vote results disagree, by 1.3 mil.

Exclusively because of California and New York City, both of which by definition- are going to be Democratic party loyalists under normal circumstances.

[BB-61 Iowa]

Popular Vote results disagree, by 1.3 mil.

Exclusively because of California and New York City, both of which by definition- are going to be Democratic party loyalists under normal circumstances.

Didn't ICE stop a lot of illegals from voting?

If those votes are coming from them I'm glad the EC exists.

[San Lumen]

Popular Vote results disagree, by 1.3 mil.

Exclusively because of California and New York City, both of which by definition- are going to be Democratic party loyalists under normal circumstances.

and yet exit polls dont match by almost 5 points in Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, Michigan and Wisconsin.It was mathematically impossible for Trump to win Florida with the early vote and the numbers in South Florida and to win by one percent in every battleground state? Something seems way off and it should be investigated.

In any other country that would be grounds for a contested election. Why is no one contesting it?