US Gen. Election Thread FINALE - Votegeddon

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I haven't been bringing up or talking about politics IRL... people seem to be persecuting people whom voted third party. If someone brings up Trump I just smile and nod...

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

[Ebliania]

I haven't been bringing up or talking about politics IRL... people seem to be persecuting people whom voted third party. If someone brings up Trump I just smile and nod...

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

Blame the Illuminati, they wanted Trump all along!

[Washington Resistance Army]

I haven't been bringing up or talking about politics IRL... people seem to be persecuting people whom voted third party. If someone brings up Trump I just smile and nod...

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

Oh yeah, it started happening election night. A bunch of places online have published stories blaming Johnson and Stein.

Assholes.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

Blame the Illuminati, they wanted Trump all along!

[The Liberated Territories]

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

Oh yeah, it started happening election night. A bunch of places online have published stories blaming Johnson and Stein.

Assholes.

Even bad publicity is good publicity. Trump exploited this well.

Unless it kills you ofc...

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

Oh yeah, it started happening election night. A bunch of places online have published stories blaming Johnson and Stein.

Assholes.

I suppose Millenials are not going to vote independent anymore. Sorry guys.

Also, shit, I really hate to say it, but only a couple of friends I have been able to talk as if nothing happened. It feels rather lonely to just talk politics and nothing personal between them.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Oh yeah, it started happening election night. A bunch of places online have published stories blaming Johnson and Stein.

Assholes.

I suppose Millenials are not going to vote independent anymore. Sorry guys.

Also, shit, I really hate to say it, but only a couple of friends I have been able to talk as if nothing happened. It feels rather lonely to just talk politics and nothing personal between them.

I'm still voting Libertarian in the future unless another candidate really wows me or has some good positions that pertain to things I care about.

At least we get a few years before the madness starts again

[Jerzylvania]

I haven't been bringing up or talking about politics IRL... people seem to be persecuting people whom voted third party. If someone brings up Trump I just smile and nod...

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

I still blame James Comey's ambiguous letter for her narrow defeat. The timing of it's release was WAY OFF from the actual receipt of the device in question. I think it was intentional and Rudy Giuliani made that abundantly clear to the media two days before the letter's release. I believes his involvement makes it impossible for him to serve as AG. I hope and pray Trump understands this. IMO Christie is also disqualified for AG. He needs an independent Attorneys General.

[Ebliania]

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

I still blame James Comey's ambiguous letter for her narrow defeat. The timing of it's release was WAY OFF from the actual receipt of the device in Question. I think it was intentional and Rudy Giuliani made that abundantly clear to the media two days before the letter's release. I believes his involvement makes it impossible for him to serve as AG. I hope and pray Trump understands this. IMO Christie is also disqualified for AG. He needs an independent AG.

Christie should be appointed to doorstop tbh

[Lady Scylla]

Apparently Trump plans to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Health Savings Accounts.

What would this mean for people's healthcare and how would this affect their healthcare choices among economic brackets, I have no idea...

Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings
Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across
state lines and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms
will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are
over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want
to speed the approval of life-saving medications

Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings
Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across
state lines

Not necessarily bad, but it'll fuck those on Obamacare.

and lets states manage Medicaid funds.

Texas refused their expansion of this. Due to that, I had to go with indigent, which the state pays for anyway but it's quality is awful. The difference is that I can only see their doctors, and attend a clinic that is understaffed, underqualified, and is a renovated black hospital. To see any other doctor but theirs means I must pay full price. This here is essentially going to degrade Medicaid's quality to what I have now, because Texas isn't going to do shit with it.

Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are
over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want
to speed the approval of life-saving medications

Yeah. No.

[Ifreann]

I still blame James Comey's ambiguous letter for her narrow defeat. The timing of it's release was WAY OFF from the actual receipt of the device in Question. I think it was intentional and Rudy Giuliani made that abundantly clear to the media two days before the letter's release. I believes his involvement makes it impossible for him to serve as AG. I hope and pray Trump understands this. IMO Christie is also disqualified for AG. He needs an independent AG.

Christie should be appointed to doorstop tbh

"*sad doorstop noises*"

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I said several pages ago what I thought would happen. That third party voters would be blamed for the loss.

I just didn't expect it to happen so quickly.

I still blame James Comey's ambiguous letter for her narrow defeat. The timing of it's release was WAY OFF from the actual receipt of the device in Question. I think it was intentional and Rudy Giuliani made that abundantly clear to the media two days before the letter's release. I believes his involvement makes it impossible for him to serve as AG. I hope and pray Trump understands this. IMO Christie is also disqualified for AG. He needs an independent AG.

I believe that too. Rudy Giuliani and Comey are idiots.

I am not hoping Comey gets the slammer in the Ethics Commission, but if he does, he deserves it.

[Jerzylvania]

I still blame James Comey's ambiguous letter for her narrow defeat. The timing of it's release was WAY OFF from the actual receipt of the device in Question. I think it was intentional and Rudy Giuliani made that abundantly clear to the media two days before the letter's release. I believes his involvement makes it impossible for him to serve as AG. I hope and pray Trump understands this. IMO Christie is also disqualified for AG. He needs an independent AG.

Christie should be appointed to doorstop tbh

In a jail cell.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Just saying, I don't blame anyone.

I love all you guys. I'm sorry that everything went to shit.

[Galloism]

Apparently Trump plans to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Health Savings Accounts.

What would this mean for people's healthcare and how would this affect their healthcare choices among economic brackets, I have no idea...

Ooh, pick me, pick me!

Health savings accounts are boss - provided you're lower middle class or higher. However, replacing insurance with health savings accounts is about as coherent as replacing a parachute with a party balloon. Mathematically speaking, a party balloon would slow your fall if you jumped out of an airplane - supplying both lift and drag - but you're still going to die when you hit the ground.

Health savings accounts are a great supplement to health insurance, but not a replacement. A health savings account works like this:

You decide to put $3,000 into an HSA this year. You don't get sick all year. You get to deduct that $3,000 from income, which, if you make $50,000 per year (married), will save you about $600 in taxes between federal and state, depending on the state. Next year you do the same, again and again and again. You get expenses here and there, but never more than you put in. Let's say after 5 years, you have 10k you've saved up in that account. That's great!

Now you get cancer. That's bad. If you have insurance, you can use that money in your health savings account to pay for your copays and deductibles and things tax free. That's great!

If you don't have insurance, you'll blow through that $10,000 in a couple weeks. That's bad. You die of cancer. That's bad.


Now, what if you're lower class, and you don't pay income tax? Well, you can still contribute to an HSA, but it won't help you, because you have no taxable income to reduce. You'd be better off just stuffing that in an ordinary savings account that you can use for any type of emergency, not just a medical one. However, you probably won't have the money to stuff it away anyway, because you live paycheck to paycheck and the government won't raise the minimum wage.

[Jerzylvania]

Apparently Trump plans to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Health Savings Accounts.

What would this mean for people's healthcare and how would this affect their healthcare choices among economic brackets, I have no idea...

Ooh, pick me, pick me!

Health savings accounts are boss - provided you're lower middle class or higher. However, replacing insurance with health savings accounts is about as coherent as replacing a parachute with a party balloon. Mathematically speaking, a party balloon would slow your fall if you jumped out of an airplane - supplying both lift and drag - but you're still going to die when you hit the ground.

Health savings accounts are a great supplement to health insurance, but not a replacement. A health savings account works like this:

You decide to put $3,000 into an HSA this year. You don't get sick all year. You get to deduct that $3,000 from income, which, if you make $50,000 per year (married), will save you about $600 in taxes between federal and state, depending on the state. Next year you do the same, again and again and again. You get expenses here and there, but never more than you put in. Let's say after 5 years, you have 10k you've saved up in that account. That's great!

Now you get cancer. That's bad. If you have insurance, you can use that money in your health savings account to pay for your copays and deductibles and things tax free. That's great!

If you don't have insurance, you'll blow through that $10,000 in a couple weeks. That's bad. You die of cancer. That's bad.


Now, what if you're lower class, and you don't pay income tax? Well, you can still contribute to an HSA, but it won't help you, because you have no taxable income to reduce. You'd be better off just stuffing that in an ordinary savings account that you can use for any type of emergency, not just a medical one. However, you probably won't have the money to stuff it away anyway, because you live paycheck to paycheck and the government won't raise the minimum wage.

Still waiting to see Trumps Federal Tax returns. How long does that audit go on for guys? Can't be 4 more years now.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Apparently Trump plans to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Health Savings Accounts.

What would this mean for people's healthcare and how would this affect their healthcare choices among economic brackets, I have no idea...

Ooh, pick me, pick me!

Health savings accounts are boss - provided you're lower middle class or higher. However, replacing insurance with health savings accounts is about as coherent as replacing a parachute with a party balloon. Mathematically speaking, a party balloon would slow your fall if you jumped out of an airplane - supplying both lift and drag - but you're still going to die when you hit the ground.

Health savings accounts are a great supplement to health insurance, but not a replacement. A health savings account works like this:

You decide to put $3,000 into an HSA this year. You don't get sick all year. You get to deduct that $3,000 from income, which, if you make $50,000 per year (married), will save you about $600 in taxes between federal and state, depending on the state. Next year you do the same, again and again and again. You get expenses here and there, but never more than you put in. Let's say after 5 years, you have 10k you've saved up in that account. That's great!

Now you get cancer. That's bad. If you have insurance, you can use that money in your health savings account to pay for your copays and deductibles and things tax free. That's great!

If you don't have insurance, you'll blow through that $10,000 in a couple weeks. That's bad. You die of cancer. That's bad.


Now, what if you're lower class, and you don't pay income tax? Well, you can still contribute to an HSA, but it won't help you, because you have no taxable income to reduce. You'd be better off just stuffing that in an ordinary savings account that you can use for any type of emergency, not just a medical one. However, you probably won't have the money to stuff it away anyway, because you live paycheck to paycheck and the government won't raise the minimum wage.

Question: I know many employers provide healthcare insurance, or they used to before Obamacare, and they would go back to that if it is repealed. Would HSAs help provide a healthy supplement to those accounts?

[Jerzylvania]

Question: I know many employers provide healthcare insurance, or they used to before Obamacare, and they would go back to that if it is repealed. Would HSAs help provide a healthy supplement to those accounts?

I believe they would.

[Hostanea]

Just saying, I don't blame anyone.

I love all you guys. I'm sorry that everything went to shit.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/us-stock ... d=43415323

Well it's not all bad, so far

[Gauthier]

Apparently Trump plans to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Health Savings Accounts.

What would this mean for people's healthcare and how would this affect their healthcare choices among economic brackets, I have no idea...

Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings
Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across
state lines and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms
will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are
over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want
to speed the approval of life-saving medications

Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings
Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across
state lines

Not necessarily bad, but it'll fuck those on Obamacare.

and lets states manage Medicaid funds.

Texas refused their expansion of this. Due to that, I had to go with indigent, which the state pays for anyway but it's quality is awful. The difference is that I can only see their doctors, and attend a clinic that is understaffed, underqualified, and is a renovated black hospital. To see any other doctor but theirs means I must pay full price. This here is essentially going to degrade Medicaid's quality to what I have now, because Texas isn't going to do shit with it.

Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are
over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want
to speed the approval of life-saving medications

Yeah. No.

If you're lucky they only blocked expansion as a Fuck You Kenyan to Obama and now that the government will be all red they'll hypocritically expand it now.

[Jerzylvania]

Just saying, I don't blame anyone.

I love all you guys. I'm sorry that everything went to shit.

Part of your sig: "Calm down guys Trump is reaching out to Hillary fans everything will be fine"

Yes, we're all sorry things went to shit. No quantity of toilet paper will wipe this clean though.

Too bad the GOP didn't do that when Obama reached out so many times. That is what sticks in everyone's crawl.

Still love you though Derp.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Just saying, I don't blame anyone.

I love all you guys. I'm sorry that everything went to shit.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/us-stock ... d=43415323

Well it's not all bad, so far

There's that.

But the violence on both sides.

[Gauthier]

Trump strongly considering Steve Bannon for chief of staff
First step towards Breibart becoming state media and the bald eagle being replaced on the Presidential Seal by a badly drawn green cartoon frog for starters. Coming soon: Trump Feminist Penetentiary slash Kitchen slash Grab Parlor.

[Lady Scylla]

Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester
and expanding military investment; provides veterans
with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend
the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital
infrastructure from cyber-attack; establishes new screening
procedures for immigration to ensure those who are
admitted to our country support our people and our values.

Rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester
and expanding military investment;

*In Billions
Outlays FY 2011
Outlays FY 2012
Outlays FY 2013
Outlays FY 2014
Outlays FY 2015
Outlays FY 2016

[+] Pensions 782.3 819.5 870.9 914.6 953.6 983.7
[+] Health Care 858.2 818.5 856.1 921.1 1,028.4 1,105.9
[+] Education 113.7 103.3 85.3 102.6 133.8 120.1
[+] Defense 878.4 849.6 818.6 799.8 797.9 815.1
[+] Welfare 466.2 411.2 397.8 370.3 361.9 367.5
[+] Protection 36.3 35.7 34.1 32.9 34.0 33.4
[+] Transportation 93.0 93.0 91.7 91.9 89.5 92.9
[+] General Government 48.7 50.6 49.0 44.4 43.7 43.3
[+] Other Spending 96.4 135.1 30.3 -0.4 22.4 51.5

2015, the US spent 815 billion USD on defense. At current we have 2.3 million troops, 1.4 million which are deployed. A military expansion is the last thing we need.

provides veterans
with the ability to receive public VA treatment or attend
the private doctor of their choice; protects our vital
infrastructure from cyber-attack;

Not necessarily bad.

establishes new screening
procedures for immigration to ensure those who are
admitted to our country support our people and our values.

Concerning.

[Lady Scylla]

Not necessarily bad, but it'll fuck those on Obamacare.



Texas refused their expansion of this. Due to that, I had to go with indigent, which the state pays for anyway but it's quality is awful. The difference is that I can only see their doctors, and attend a clinic that is understaffed, underqualified, and is a renovated black hospital. To see any other doctor but theirs means I must pay full price. This here is essentially going to degrade Medicaid's quality to what I have now, because Texas isn't going to do shit with it.




Yeah. No.

If you're lucky they only blocked expansion as a Fuck You Kenyan to Obama and now that the government will be all red they'll hypocritically expand it now.

Hence what I said. If I lose my care, I'm killing myself.