US Gen. Election Thread FINALE - Votegeddon

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Jesus, that sucks....

I mean, I know I was disappointed by the result, but I've been trying for people to keep their temperaments down.

No need for hating the other side. We all voted based on our interests.

Perceived interests would probably be more accurate.

True, and I mean, there's that. I can't blame independents nor Trump supporters for their vote. They voted according to what they perceived their best interests were.

Bernie Busters though just wanted to stick it to Clinton in vindictiveness against not having Bernie go into the General election. Not entirely sure how I feel about that.

[Patridam]

Jesus, that sucks....

I mean, I know I was disappointed by the result, but I've been trying for people to keep their temperaments down.

No need for hating the other side. We all voted based on our interests.

Perceived interests would probably be more accurate.

Okay, people naturally can only vote based on perception, whomever they voted for. Who knows how accurate perceptions were this year though.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Don't worry, I dislike everyone's politics, including yours. I mean... erm... you know...

Seriously though, we can disagree on politics, but I'm not going to seriously insult someone's character over it.

Pretty much how I look at it.

I have a fair number of disagreements with people here (especially on firearms) but I'm not gonna attack anyone personally.

unless you're TEM :^)

I, too, have a fair number of disagreements with a lot of people here, even people who I am on the same side, but personal attacks are not par for the course.

Heck, I've even gone out of my way to talk with some of the people I bitterly disagree with on the forums in private.

[Jerzylvania]

That's odd. I've had no shortage of people hate me for voting for trump. I had one of my residents (I am an RA on a college campus) tell me I am the reason this country will go to hell, and that he has lost all respect he had for me ... "oh, no wait, I never had any respect for you". I had someone deface the bulletin board I made (about thanksgiving, Diwali, all saints day, and international tolerance day) with "you racist trumper fuck" in sharpie, and certainly seen no shortage of vitriolic comments thrown around on Facebook.

And this is in Pennsylvania, and not even in one of the especially liberal parts (e.g. Philly or Pittsburgh). I should expect its this way on most university campuses. Hate goes both ways unfortunately.

A regionmate who voted Libertarian and openly endorsed Gary Johnson had to receive protection by campus security because there were so many threats coming his direction.

Also, reading the posts by minorities reporting discrimination by Trump supporters... dear God.

I think this election exposed us humans for being the wolves that we really are, not the nice kind humans that we pretend to be.

Trump set the tone for the election right off the bat. Now, being the beneficiary of it's reward, he needs to pull it all back in or he will fail. It's a Herculean task.

[Lady Scylla]

Perceived interests would probably be more accurate.

True, and I mean, there's that. I can't blame independents nor Trump supporters for their vote. They voted according to what they perceived their best interests were.

Bernie Busters though just wanted to stick it to Clinton in vindictiveness against not having Bernie go into the General election. Not entirely sure how I feel about that.

I don't usually get involved in elections. Both candidates were usually so similar in cloth that I didn't mind. I was upset about the DNC's bullshittery, but I honestly believe Trump's going to run this country into the ground. I chose Hillary off of the interest that, we weren't doing well as a country, but maybe we could limp a little longer til the next election and get someone actually worth the spot. Now with Trump's victory, I'm worried about my livelihood because I'm poor, and his plans thus far look like they may screw me. I'm also worried that his platform has validated a lot of hate on both sides, and we've ended up with a fire.

[Galloism]

Perceived interests would probably be more accurate.

True, and I mean, there's that. I can't blame independents nor Trump supporters for their vote. They voted according to what they perceived their best interests were.

Bernie Busters though just wanted to stick it to Clinton in vindictiveness against not having Bernie go into the General election. Not entirely sure how I feel about that.

I know how i feel about that.

[Washington Resistance Army]

True, and I mean, there's that. I can't blame independents nor Trump supporters for their vote. They voted according to what they perceived their best interests were.

Bernie Busters though just wanted to stick it to Clinton in vindictiveness against not having Bernie go into the General election. Not entirely sure how I feel about that.

I know how i feel about that.

Drunken rage?

[Novus America]

Because he took down any mention of pro-life stuff on his website and has never cared for the pro-life debate except to win the Evangelicals and various pro-life organizations. This much I know is true. I know he's a con. I've never trusted him. But this much I know. He does not give two cares about the abortion debate, about homosexuality, about trans people, etc.

If he's a con, if we don't know what he'll do, then surely it doesn't matter what he gives two cares about(is that really a thing people say?), he'll do whatever he thinks will further his con. In fact, if he doesn't care about abortion, doesn't that make it more likely that he'll ban abortion if he thinks it'll get him a second term or whatever?

First of all he CANNOT ban abortion. At most he might be able to appoint enough judges so that abortion becomes a state rather than federal thing, and thus a few red states ban it, others restrict it, but a lot of states leave it alone and keep it legal. This is also likely because politically it makes sense. Punt the controversy to the states.

But I think you have a point about him being a con, which is why he will probably be better at this then we think. Politics is a con. It is all about exaggerating your successes and downplaying you failures. And Trump does this very well. It is all about selling yourself, and Trump does this well.

It is also all about delegation, which Trump also does well enough. The fact is that Trump turned out to be a better politician than any of us. Than Hillary even.

Fact is he will be in the Whitehouse, and we are nobodies. He is much better at politics than we are.

And because he is a con with few principles, he will probably focus on doing popular things.

Yes one can say, "did Putin not do the same things"? Or Duterte? Sure, but even though Putin and Duterte are cons, they have again been successful politicians. Much more sucesful than any of us. Fact is they know something we do not. Fact is they are better at politics than we are.

Which is why the succeed politically, while we are failures.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's odd. I've had no shortage of people hate me for voting for trump. I had one of my residents (I am an RA on a college campus) tell me I am the reason this country will go to hell, and that he has lost all respect he had for me ... "oh, no wait, I never had any respect for you". I had someone deface the bulletin board I made (about thanksgiving, Diwali, all saints day, and international tolerance day) with "you racist trumper fuck" in sharpie, and certainly seen no shortage of vitriolic comments thrown around on Facebook.

And this is in Pennsylvania, and not even in one of the especially liberal parts (e.g. Philly or Pittsburgh). I should expect its this way on most university campuses. Hate goes both ways unfortunately.

A regionmate who voted Libertarian and openly endorsed Gary Johnson had to receive protection by campus security because there were so many threats coming his direction.

Also, reading the posts by minorities reporting discrimination by Trump supporters... dear God.

I think this election exposed us humans for being the wolves that we really are, not the nice kind humans that we pretend to be.

Yea, that was going to happen, not your friend's narrative mind. The Trump supporter's attacks on minorities.

Trump's shocked answer on Twitter though.

[Acheulian]

If you really think that Trump is going to be such a horrible President and do all those horrible things you think he is going to do, then you are proving two things: You are not a real American and you don't have a clue about what makes America tick.

FYI: I voted for Hillary Clinton but all this "death to America" stuff is offensive because by attacking my country they are attacking me and I did not even vote for Trump.

[Luziyca]

A regionmate who voted Libertarian and openly endorsed Gary Johnson had to receive protection by campus security because there were so many threats coming his direction.

Also, reading the posts by minorities reporting discrimination by Trump supporters... dear God.

I think this election exposed us humans for being the wolves that we really are, not the nice kind humans that we pretend to be.

Yea, that was going to happen, not your friend's narrative mind. The Trump supporter's attacks on minorities.

Trump's shocked answer on Twitter though.

I really hope this shit doesn't spiral out of control.

[Novus America]

That's odd. I've had no shortage of people hate me for voting for trump. I had one of my residents (I am an RA on a college campus) tell me I am the reason this country will go to hell, and that he has lost all respect he had for me ... "oh, no wait, I never had any respect for you". I had someone deface the bulletin board I made (about thanksgiving, Diwali, all saints day, and international tolerance day) with "you racist trumper fuck" in sharpie, and certainly seen no shortage of vitriolic comments thrown around on Facebook.

And this is in Pennsylvania, and not even in one of the especially liberal parts (e.g. Philly or Pittsburgh). I should expect its this way on most university campuses. Hate goes both ways unfortunately.

A regionmate who voted Libertarian and openly endorsed Gary Johnson had to receive protection by campus security because there were so many threats coming his direction.

Also, reading the posts by minorities reporting discrimination by Trump supporters... dear God.

I think this election exposed us humans for being the wolves that we really are, not the nice kind humans that we pretend to be.

We are chimpanzees more than wolves. Not that it makes it much better. Chimpanzees sometimes act nice and cute, but are quite brutal.

We are hyper intelligent, hyper predatory apes. Just smarter, more predatory Chimps. That is what we are.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

True, and I mean, there's that. I can't blame independents nor Trump supporters for their vote. They voted according to what they perceived their best interests were.

Bernie Busters though just wanted to stick it to Clinton in vindictiveness against not having Bernie go into the General election. Not entirely sure how I feel about that.

I don't usually get involved in elections. Both candidates were usually so similar in cloth that I didn't mind. I was upset about the DNC's bullshittery, but I honestly believe Trump's going to run this country into the ground. I chose Hillary off of the interest that, we weren't doing well as a country, but maybe we could limp a little longer til the next election and get someone actually worth the spot. Now with Trump's victory, I'm worried about my livelihood because I'm poor, and his plans thus far look like they may screw me. I'm also worried that his platform has validated a lot of hate on both sides, and we've ended up with a fire.

I feel the same way, believe it or not.

I don't think his plans may screw me personally, but I know that a lot of people will feel the acid. And I'm sorry about that. I wish I could help, personally, but I can only spread so thin, and my friends come first, including you.

[Galloism]

I know how i feel about that.

Drunken rage?

Rage is too strong.

Frustrated irritation.

[Lady Scylla]

If you really think that Trump is going to be such a horrible President and do all those horrible things you think he is going to do, then you are proving two things: You are not a real American and you don't have a clue about what makes America tick.

FYI: I voted for Hillary Clinton but all this "death to America" stuff is offensive because by attacking my country they are attacking me and I did not even vote for Trump.

Alright, Chief.

[Lady Scylla]

Yea, that was going to happen, not your friend's narrative mind. The Trump supporter's attacks on minorities.

Trump's shocked answer on Twitter though.

I really hope this shit doesn't spiral out of control.

Well, if Twitter's anything to go by, it's already starting to. People have attacked people's pets, defaced property, beaten each other up. Bleedin' madhouse.

[Nixonnia]

Yea, that was going to happen, not your friend's narrative mind. The Trump supporter's attacks on minorities.

Trump's shocked answer on Twitter though.

I really hope this shit doesn't spiral out of control.

this^

A regionmate who voted Libertarian and openly endorsed Gary Johnson had to receive protection by campus security because there were so many threats coming his direction.

Also, reading the posts by minorities reporting discrimination by Trump supporters... dear God.

I think this election exposed us humans for being the wolves that we really are, not the nice kind humans that we pretend to be.

Trump set the tone for the election right off the bat. Now, being the beneficiary of it's reward, he needs to pull it all back in or he will fail. It's a Herculean task.

and this^

[Galloism]

Yea, that was going to happen, not your friend's narrative mind. The Trump supporter's attacks on minorities.

Trump's shocked answer on Twitter though.

I really hope this shit doesn't spiral out of control.

I don't think it will. Obama is still in the White House, and I'm sure he will do his best to keep this from spiraling out of control.

It'll probably be settled before calm collected leadership leaves the White House.

[Novus America]

I really hope this shit doesn't spiral out of control.

this^

Well things were much, much worse in 68. And we survived. Though there was Watergate and the 70s were complete shit. But we survived. This seems very close to 68 in many ways

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

This election has been horrible. Everyone is still mad at everyone.

The ride did not end on nov 8.

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

[Luziyca]

I really hope this shit doesn't spiral out of control.

Well, if Twitter's anything to go by, it's already starting to. People have attacked people's pets, defaced property, beaten each other up. Bleedin' madhouse.

...Jesus Christ.

I wish all sides issue firm official statements condemning the violence and nipping that in the bud before this turns into a civil war.

[Galloism]

Well, if Twitter's anything to go by, it's already starting to. People have attacked people's pets, defaced property, beaten each other up. Bleedin' madhouse.

...Jesus Christ.

I wish all sides issue firm official statements condemning the violence and nipping that in the bud before this turns into a civil war.

There will be no civil war.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

this^

Well things were much, much worse in 68. And we survived. Though there was Watergate and the 70s were complete shit. But we survived. This seems very close to 68 in many ways

I don't know much about '68 myself. Care to elaborate?

[Novus America]

Well, if Twitter's anything to go by, it's already starting to. People have attacked people's pets, defaced property, beaten each other up. Bleedin' madhouse.

...Jesus Christ.

I wish all sides issue firm official statements condemning the violence and nipping that in the bud before this turns into a civil war.

68 did not become a civil war. If it did not, this will not. Again we have been through much, much worse.

[The East Marches]

This election has been horrible. Everyone is still mad at everyone.

The ride did not end on nov 8.

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS