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Cymrea
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:34 am

Nusaresa wrote:
Cymrea wrote:Xenophobia, misogyny, enormously expensive boondoggles, and completely insubstantial promises = change.

Trump's campaign exposed the nasty underbelly of American society. Trump has effectively legitimized and deligitimized these people in one fell swoop.

Now if he turns out to be a NY Liberal, it would be the real beginning of the biggest callout post ever.

49% of American voters is more than an underbelly. It's a bloated, distended gut of systemic nastiness that doesn't even possess the grace to be embarrassed at itself.
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Baitskhan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Baitskhan » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:34 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Baitskhan wrote:
Bernie and Hillary


Not even remotely socialist.


Based upon what evidence do you make this claim?

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:34 am

Yorkers wrote:The liberal tears today on campus were glorious. Some Muslim students were literally crying.

Schadenfreude is a great feeling.


Congratulations on the Trump victory by the way.

I have been trying to keep people's nerves calm off-site myself. I don't enjoy the schadenfreude among people I know.

However, it was all a good run, and you guys do deserve the win. You were the unsung heroes of this election.
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Luziyca
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:34 am

Christ.

This hell of an election cycle is done. But I think we'll be dealing with massive fallout. Hell, Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump still gets the Presidency.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Nihonkuo » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:34 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Why am I thinking it's no longer the end of the world?

Because maybe, unlike a lot of people, you realize that this isn't a monarchy and Trump can't just do whatever the fuck he wants?
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WaRtArIa
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Postby WaRtArIa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:35 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Alien Space Bats wrote:Yeah, when I see my counselor on Friday, I'm going to be telling her that we need to start planning for a January 21st discharge.

I'm also going to have to figure out how to extend my life expectancy without either my antidepressants or CPAP supplies.


I ended up with MRSA a few years ago. I've an unhealing wound after a few surgeries that bleeds constantly, and I just now started getting covered. Add on me being treated for bipolar, and the fact we're already staring at over $250,000 of medical debt. I'm just exhausted at this point.

It seems your healthcare was better than mine, as I don't have half my face.

It seems your medical debt is your medical debt.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:35 am

Yorkers wrote:The liberal tears today on campus were glorious. Some Muslim students were literally crying.

Schadenfreude is a great feeling.


Your happy because Muslim people are sad. What

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Swindenland
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Postby Swindenland » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:35 am

California will become the 10th state of Austria.

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:35 am

Ebliania wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Trump, for all his talk, has always been a child of the establishment.

How long until he becomes a Neo Liberal Globalist Illuminati darling?


Nah, he won't. But he is a rich kid. It'd be a lie to say he isn't, to some degree, the child of the establishment.
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:35 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Yorkers wrote:The liberal tears today on campus were glorious. Some Muslim students were literally crying.

Schadenfreude is a great feeling.


Congratulations on the Trump victory by the way.

I have been trying to keep people's nerves calm off-site myself. I don't enjoy the schadenfreude among people I know.

However, it was all a good run, and you guys do deserve the win. You were the unsung heroes of this election.


For real. Trump and his supporters proved everyone wrong.

Bravo for that.
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Victoriala II
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Ex-Nation

Postby Victoriala II » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:36 am

Yorkers wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Unbelievable. Here are my predictions (as if they're ever accurate anymore) for what happens next:

- Obamacare is dead, say goodbye to pre-existing conditions coverage
- NATO is dead. With NATO dead, I wouldn't put it past Russia to attempt a war or two, either in the Baltic states or an actual full invasion of Ukraine
- Supreme Court will be conservative for at least a couple of decades, this could possibly lead to a reversal of the Supreme Court's previous decisions on forcing legal abortion & same sex marriage. Could end up being a complete federal ban on both, though I think that's somewhat unlikely
- The EU is likely dead at this point, far-right populist groups in various countries will be highly energised. France is the tipping point. If Le Pen wins next year, the EU is completely dead
- The Asia pivot is dead, Chinese influence in surrounding countries will surge
- Syria will be a bloodbath. Assad is now guaranteed to eventually win
- The Paris Agreement is dead. There will be little to no action on climate change. Without the US, many countries won't be motivated to even try ("if the #1 polluter doesn't bother, why should we sacrifice our economic growth?")
- Japan will hasten its remilitarisation
- The Fed is at risk of losing its independence
- The Iran deal is dead. This means either a nuclear Iran or a war with Iran
- Every pollster and projector is probably going to lose their jobs

This will be my last post. I've come to the conclusion I need to take a long-term break from politics following everything that has happened this year. The message I've gotten is clear: Centrists are not welcome under the rise of the alt-left and alt-right. I'm out. Peace.


Most of this isn't even that bad or is actually good.

Pax Americana needed to die.


I'd rather have the world ruled by someone embodies my values rather than being jackbooted by someone's righteous ideals.

Vivat America in Aeternam.

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The Alma Mater
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Postby The Alma Mater » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:36 am

Baitskhan wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Not even remotely socialist.


Based upon what evidence do you make this claim?


The definition of socialism and their party programs ?
The USA does not even have a left wing party. Just center, right and further right.
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Eol Sha
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Ex-Nation

Postby Eol Sha » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:36 am

Baitskhan wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Bernie Sanders' relatively anti-free trade message (compared to Clinton) probably would have won him the Midwest like it was won by Trump.


Not likely. Both candidates were ardently protectionist, so what it would come down to would be social values and foreign policy. As someone living in fly over country, I can confirm that we are quite conservative in those regards.

And plenty of the country is liberal in those regards. Sanders' lack of political baggage wouldn't have dragged him down like it did Clinton.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Luziyca
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:36 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Trump was hopeful, Hillary was kind, Obama is hopeful.

Why am I thinking that it is not as bad as I thought?

Why am I thinking it's no longer the end of the world?

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."
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United Empire of Humanity
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby United Empire of Humanity » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yorkers wrote:The liberal tears today on campus were glorious. Some Muslim students were literally crying.

Schadenfreude is a great feeling.


Your happy because Muslim people are sad. What

He's a white nationalist, this was only to be expected.
Victoriala II wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Most of this isn't even that bad or is actually good.

Pax Americana needed to die.


I'd rather have the world ruled by someone embodies my values rather than being jackbooted by someone's righteous ideals.

Vivat America in Aeternam.

Amen to that!
SAS is like 1/3 self hating Americans self flagellating for attention from le enlightened Europeans, 1/3 people who just like to make fun of the ridiculous shit some Americans say, while the other 1/3 are /r/latestagecapitalism tier hatred of the US. You can't even praise America for defeating imperial Japan without someone crying about muh nukes.

Bullshit

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Nusaresa
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Postby Nusaresa » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

Cymrea wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Trump's campaign exposed the nasty underbelly of American society. Trump has effectively legitimized and deligitimized these people in one fell swoop.

Now if he turns out to be a NY Liberal, it would be the real beginning of the biggest callout post ever.

49% of American voters is more than an underbelly. It's a bloated, distended gut of systemic nastiness.

Exactly. And it's this enormity of the situation that makes it clear that something is deeply wrong with the nation. Trump is the prescription glasses that we needed to finally see what was growing right in front of us.

What to do with it is another matter.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

Baitskhan wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Not even remotely socialist.


Based upon what evidence do you make this claim?

They don't push for the workers to own the means of production.
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Postby Victoriala II » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Yorkers wrote:The liberal tears today on campus were glorious. Some Muslim students were literally crying.

Schadenfreude is a great feeling.


Your happy because Muslim people are sad. What

Nigga hates anyone that ain't white and baptist fam lurk more Jesus

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Capitalizt

Postby Grand Britannia » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

Freefall11111 wrote:Unbelievable. Here are my predictions (as if they're ever accurate anymore) for what happens next:

- Obamacare is dead, say goodbye to pre-existing conditions coverage
- NATO is dead. With NATO dead, I wouldn't put it past Russia to attempt a war or two, either in the Baltic states or an actual full invasion of Ukraine
- Supreme Court will be conservative for at least a couple of decades, this could possibly lead to a reversal of the Supreme Court's previous decisions on forcing legal abortion & same sex marriage. Could end up being a complete federal ban on both, though I think that's somewhat unlikely
- The EU is likely dead at this point, far-right populist groups in various countries will be highly energised. France is the tipping point. If Le Pen wins next year, the EU is completely dead
- The Asia pivot is dead, Chinese influence in surrounding countries will surge
- Syria will be a bloodbath. Assad is now guaranteed to eventually win
- The Paris Agreement is dead. There will be little to no action on climate change. Without the US, many countries won't be motivated to even try ("if the #1 polluter doesn't bother, why should we sacrifice our economic growth?")
- Japan will hasten its remilitarisation
- The Fed is at risk of losing its independence
- The Iran deal is dead. This means either a nuclear Iran or a war with Iran
- Every pollster and projector is probably going to lose their jobs

This will be my last post. I've come to the conclusion I need to take a long-term break from politics following everything that has happened this year. The message I've gotten is clear: Centrists are not welcome under the rise of the alt-left and alt-right. I'm out. Peace.


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2. Meh
3. Good
4. Eh
5. >Trump mentions chayna 1 billion times
>the asian pivot is dead
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6. eh
7. Oh well
8. Good
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10. fucking excellent
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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:37 am

Luziyca wrote:Christ.

This hell of an election cycle is done. But I think we'll be dealing with massive fallout. Hell, Clinton won the popular vote, but Trump still gets the Presidency.

As far as I can tell, the counting isn't finished. So she may end up losing the popular vote.
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You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:38 am

Autonomous Eastern Ukraine wrote:
Yorkers wrote:The liberal tears today on campus were glorious. Some Muslims students were literally crying.

Schadenfreude is a great feeling.

This is why I love politics.


I won't pretend I like all this gloating, to be honest.
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Baitskhan
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Ex-Nation

Postby Baitskhan » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:38 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Baitskhan wrote:
Based upon what evidence do you make this claim?


The definition of socialism and their party programs ?
The USA does not even have a left wing party. Just center, right and further right.


Ooooh, you're one of those people :? ....

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Victoriala II
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Postby Victoriala II » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:39 am

Baitskhan wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
The definition of socialism and their party programs ?
The USA does not even have a left wing party. Just center, right and further right.


Ooooh, you're one of those people :? ....

What even are you

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Luziyca
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Luziyca » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:39 am

Nusaresa wrote:
Cymrea wrote:49% of American voters is more than an underbelly. It's a bloated, distended gut of systemic nastiness.

Exactly. And it's this enormity of the situation that makes it clear that something is deeply wrong with the nation. Trump is the prescription glasses that we needed to finally see what was growing right in front of us.

What to do with it is another matter.

Indeed. But I suspect that they'd probably ignore the glaring reality.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 09, 2016 10:39 am

Baitskhan wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
The definition of socialism and their party programs ?
The USA does not even have a left wing party. Just center, right and further right.


Ooooh, you're one of those people :? ....

Dictionary people?
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