Right Wing Discussion Thread VI: Still Doin' The Reactionary

[Old Tyrannia]

Quick Question, Was Prussia Right-Wing? If so, why? If not, why?

Purely from the name, they sound Nationalistic... so yeah...?
Source: I winged it.
Another source: Da Wiki:
- had monarchy for a VERY long time
- Highly religious
- Crusaders

None of those things are particularly true of the 18th-19th century Kingdom of Prussia, which is the only stage of its history where you can really consider it "right" or "left" wing. Applying those labels to a medieval state would be anachronistic.

The Prussian monarchy was fairly modern, certainly not as old as, say, the English or French monarchies.

[Mattopilos]

Purely from the name, they sound Nationalistic... so yeah...?
Source: I winged it.
Another source: Da Wiki:
- had monarchy for a VERY long time
- Highly religious
- Crusaders

None of those things are particularly true of the 18th-19th century Kingdom of Prussia, which is the only stage of its history where you can really consider it "right" or "left" wing. Applying those labels to a medieval state would be anachronistic.

The Prussian monarchy was fairly modern, certainly not as old as, say, the English or French monarchies.

True, my bad.

[Dilordaopia]

Ah yes, Christian morality.

What is that exactly, again?

Stoning your child to death if you think he might disobey you? Murdering anyone who tries to convert you to another god? Endorsing slavery?

Perhaps you meant just the modern humanist-altered versions of Christian morality.

*cough* that was the Old Testament *cough* you are so fucking ignorant *cough*

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Have we done a poll about the next threads name?

We already decided on a name.

[USS Monitor]

Ah yes, Christian morality.

What is that exactly, again?

Stoning your child to death if you think he might disobey you? Murdering anyone who tries to convert you to another god? Endorsing slavery?

Perhaps you meant just the modern humanist-altered versions of Christian morality.

*cough* that was the Old Testament *cough* you are so fucking ignorant *cough*

*** Warned for flaming ***

[-Fahrong-]

Purely from the name, they sound Nationalistic... so yeah...?
Source: I winged it.
Another source: Da Wiki:
- had monarchy for a VERY long time
- Highly religious
- Crusaders

Prussia is the best. (Not as great as England/Great Britain/UK, but still great)

Prussian constitutionalism was pretty solid yes.

[Yoshida (Ancient)]

Quick Question, Was Prussia Right-Wing? If so, why? If not, why?

Purely from the name, they sound Nationalistic... so yeah...?
Source: I winged it.
Another source: Da Wiki:
- had monarchy for a VERY long time
- Highly religious
- Crusaders

Early nationalism was a part of the Left, and there were many socialist-nationalist movements. Something doesn't automatically equal Right-wing if its nationalistic.

[Camaalbakrius]

Quick Question, Was Prussia Right-Wing? If so, why? If not, why?

Purely from the name, they sound Nationalistic... so yeah...?
Source: I winged it.
Another source: Da Wiki:
- had monarchy for a VERY long time
- Highly religious
- Crusaders

DID SOMEONE SAY CRUSADES?

[The V O I D]

RWDT, thoughts on radicalism in general? If you're religious, thoughts on radicals of your religion? Do you think they make a bad name for your religion or do you think people know there's a difference between radicals and more sensible people of your religion?

[BB-61 Iowa]

RWDT, thoughts on radicalism in general? If you're religious, thoughts on radicals of your religion? Do you think they make a bad name for your religion or do you think people know there's a difference between radicals and more sensible people of your religion?

The Crusades were pretty neat.

[-Fahrong-]

RWDT, thoughts on radicalism in general? If you're religious, thoughts on radicals of your religion? Do you think they make a bad name for your religion or do you think people know there's a difference between radicals and more sensible people of your religion?

"Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle."

I would say the same to Religious liberals who try to say that about my faith.

[Runeria]

RWDT, thoughts on radicalism in general? If you're religious, thoughts on radicals of your religion? Do you think they make a bad name for your religion or do you think people know there's a difference between radicals and more sensible people of your religion?

Well, radicalism in the most general sense is a desire to fundamentally alter the structure and evolutionary course of one's society. Honestly I think most people are either too afraid or too eager to do so.

Most "revolutionaries" are over-confident in their ability to rebuild society in the image of their imagined utopia, and do not appreciate the merits of function of their culture/nation/society's central pillars. They lack an adequate understanding of history, of sanctity. On the other hand, most people are seemingly blind to the nature of the world they live in. There's no sense of skepticism or self-examination. Most people don't apply any intellectual rigor to their beliefs.

I'm reminded of one of the people who's blocked me on Twitter, Nicole Cliffe.

[The Princes of the Universe]

Purely from the name, they sound Nationalistic... so yeah...?
Source: I winged it.
Another source: Da Wiki:
- had monarchy for a VERY long time
- Highly religious
- Crusaders

Early nationalism was a part of the Left, and there were many socialist-nationalist movements. Something doesn't automatically equal Right-wing if its nationalistic.

Nationalism is liberal bullshit.

[Diopolis]

RWDT, thoughts on radicalism in general? If you're religious, thoughts on radicals of your religion? Do you think they make a bad name for your religion or do you think people know there's a difference between radicals and more sensible people of your religion?

I'm not a big fan of, say, sedevacantists or Richard Williamson. Not necessarily because they're extreme, but because they're crazy and wrong and give us all a bad name for that reason. That leads to bogus accusations of antisemitism towards mainstream, largely not antisemitic groups. SPLC lists The Remnant, our largest newspaper, as a "Radical Traditionalist Catholic antisemitic hate group", refuses to provide any actual evidence of its supposed antisemitism, and gets away with it, simply because our largest fringe group is made up mostly of holocaust denying geocentrists.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

RWDT, thoughts on radicalism in general? If you're religious, thoughts on radicals of your religion? Do you think they make a bad name for your religion or do you think people know there's a difference between radicals and more sensible people of your religion?

Increases my likelihood of heart disease to have to deal with them. Or be them. They are the product of a pressure cooker that has been left on max power for too long.

[Aelex]

The Crusades were pretty neat.

Baudoin de Boulogne is my waifu, also, Latin Jerusalem is best Jerusalem.

[Aelex]

Nationalism is liberal bullshit.

Except it's neither liberal nor bullshit.

[The Princes of the Universe]

Nationalism is liberal bullshit.

Except it's neither liberal nor bullshit.

It grew out of the so-called Enlightenment. That in my book makes it both liberal and bullshit.

[Aelex]

It grew out of the so-called Enlightenment. That in my book makes it both liberal and bullshit.

Except it actually grew from the Hundred Years War in Europe but don't let facts get in the way of your generalisations.

[Sanctissima]

Except it's neither liberal nor bullshit.

It grew out of the so-called Enlightenment. That in my book makes it both liberal and bullshit.

No offense, but...

My god you're old-fashioned.

And I say this as someone who would love nothing more than to revive the Roman Republic as a modern-day country.

[Germanic Templars]

It grew out of the so-called Enlightenment. That in my book makes it both liberal and bullshit.

No offense, but...

My god you're old-fashioned.

And I say this as someone who would love nothing more than to revive the Roman Republic Empire that stretched across all southern Europe, Middle East, and North Africa as a modern-day country.

Fixed that for you.

[-Fahrong-]

It grew out of the so-called Enlightenment. That in my book makes it both liberal and bullshit.

Except it actually grew from the Hundred Years War in Europe but don't let facts get in the way of your generalisations.

Blegh, proto-nationalism at best. The Enlightenment is certainly the cradle of true modern nationalism.

It grew out of the so-called Enlightenment. That in my book makes it both liberal and bullshit.

No offense, but...

My god you're old-fashioned.

And I say this as someone who would love nothing more than to revive the Roman Republic as a modern-day country.

Indeed, thats a good thing, it is the reactionary spirit.

[Sanctissima]

No offense, but...

My god you're old-fashioned.

And I say this as someone who would love nothing more than to revive the Roman Republic Empire that stretched across all southern Europe, Middle East, and North Africa as a modern-day country.

Fixed that for you.

Optimates for life!

You can take my Republic from my cold, dead hands!

[Germanic Templars]

Except it actually grew from the Hundred Years War in Europe but don't let facts get in the way of your generalisations.

Blegh, proto-nationalism at best. The Enlightenment is certainly the cradle of true modern nationalism.

No offense, but...

My god you're old-fashioned.

And I say this as someone who would love nothing more than to revive the Roman Republic as a modern-day country.

Indeed, thats a good thing, it is the reactionary spirit.

Reactionary sounds too... Knee jerky. Conservative sounds better because conserving moral values and tradition is key element of the right, imo.

[-Fahrong-]

Blegh, proto-nationalism at best. The Enlightenment is certainly the cradle of true modern nationalism.



Indeed, thats a good thing, it is the reactionary spirit.

Reactionary sounds too... Knee jerky. Conservative sounds better because conserving moral values and tradition is key element of the right, imo.

What? Conservatives suck, you only conserve what has already been changed, your just classical liberals usually.