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Favourite constitutional/government models?

Ancient Sparta
24
5%
Roman Republic
59
11%
Imperial China/Joseon Korea
14
3%
Byzantine
28
5%
Holy Roman Empire
37
7%
Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
15
3%
Republic of Venice
15
3%
United Kingdom/Great Britain
89
17%
Prussia/German Empire
81
15%
United States
166
31%
 
Total votes : 528

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Postby Isyrannaea » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:00 am

Nusaresa wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:Couldn't find smiling pics of my an heroes.

Oh well, that's too sad.

I chose El Trumpo for liberal tears and angery reacts.
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Postby The Islamic State of Swedenstan » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:01 am

Isyrannaea wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Oh well, that's too sad.

I chose El Trumpo for liberal tears and angery reacts.


Same here tbhfam. Inb4 Jochi freaks out even though I've labeled Trump as a lefty mulitiple times.
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Postby Southwest Mankuta » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:02 am

Trump won. Praise kek.
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Postby Nusaresa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:04 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Ultimate winner of this election: The Bourgeoisie and Wall Street

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The Bourgeoisie are defined as the winners, so obviously they win everything.

Indeed. Well, if a revolution comes our way we're also the most likely losers of our own heads, but I digress.
Isyrannaea wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Oh well, that's too sad.

I chose El Trumpo for liberal tears and angery reacts.

And yet Trump's policies are quite the reflection of party line GOP. Eh, what could've one expect from someone who thrives in neoliberalism. Not a fascist nor a conservative, not an ultranationalist nor a 'person-of-change'

Nothing but an opportunist who showed that America's rural communities are in dire need of reform.

And yet will squander anyways with corporate friendly policies and a cockblocking GOP establishment.

The only tears I shed are for those unfortunate enough to be disenfranchised once more. Played like the chess pieces they were.
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Postby Isyrannaea » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:05 am

The Islamic State of Swedenstan wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:I chose El Trumpo for liberal tears and angery reacts.


Same here tbhfam. Inb4 Jochi freaks out even though I've labeled Trump as a lefty mulitiple times.

As have I.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:10 am

The Islamic State of Swedenstan wrote:
Isyrannaea wrote:I chose El Trumpo for liberal tears and angery reacts.


Same here tbhfam. Inb4 Jochi freaks out even though I've labeled Trump as a lefty mulitiple times.

Mixed feelings on my part. I do like the liberals overreacting, and I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as they say. But I don't like that he's in office.

I would have been the same way if Hillary had won and people were going on about her being great and that we've "defeated hate :'''( " or whatever people would be saying.

I'll just give the position that I gave earlier. I keep switching from being okay with this to thinking both choices were just as bad in different ways.

I mean, you could call that edgy if you want, but it's just what I think is the reality of the situation. The options really were awful.
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Postby Nusaresa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:12 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
The Islamic State of Swedenstan wrote:
Same here tbhfam. Inb4 Jochi freaks out even though I've labeled Trump as a lefty mulitiple times.

Mixed feelings on my part. I do like the liberals overreacting, and I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as they say. But I don't like that he's in office.

I would have been the same way if Hillary had won and people were going on about her being great and that we've "defeated hate :'''(" or whatever people would be saying.

I mean, you could call that edgy if you want, but it's just what I think is the reality of the situation. The options really were awful.

You were either picking an openly neoliberal candidate with nice corruption and dubious foreign policy, or a closeted neoliberal with nice scandals and degeneracy with a erratic foreign policy.

Still pandering to globalist establishment.

Mr.Bones I want off.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:19 am

>tfw Trump victory isnt as exciting as you thought it would be
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Isyrannaea wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Oh well, that's too sad.

I chose El Trumpo for liberal tears and angery reacts.

Same, also Trump represents us internet hate speech frog memesters. Also causes Wall Street to go down.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:20 am

How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism
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Postby Southwest Mankuta » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:24 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:27 am

Southwest Mankuta wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

Lol. This is what I'm talking about. You're challenged by the fact that you got willingly screwed over by the establishment so you lash out at everyone who disagrees with you and call them leftists and liberals.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:29 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

Globalism, he's not so much a part of. Less so than others. He's still a Zionist and supports other forms of foreign imperialism, so...
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Postby Southwest Mankuta » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:30 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Southwest Mankuta wrote:This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

Lol. This is what I'm talking about. You're challenged by the fact that you got willingly cucked by the establishment so you lash out at everyone who disagrees with you and call them leftists and liberals.

YOU are unwilling to accept defeat so you pull the idea that trump is a globalist out of your ass.
Fine, i won't talk to you or your wifes son ever again

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Postby Nusaresa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:31 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

Hack and slash, lowering of taxes, pulling investors into the country to revitalize industry doesn't sound familiar to you? Oh wait, it's neoliberal policy, which often comes along with globalism anyways.
Southwest Mankuta wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

He is a Dem mole on a smear campaign
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:33 am

Southwest Mankuta wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

Jochi isn't a disgusting leftie, he's a disgusting radical special snowflake Islamic traditionalist.
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Southwest Mankuta wrote:This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

Lol. This is what I'm talking about. You're challenged by the fact that you got willingly cucked by the establishment so you lash out at everyone who disagrees with you and call them leftists and liberals.

>Trump is establishment
So that's why the stock market plummeted when he was elected, why all the experts in the media didn't want to report his victory, and why his own party hated him? He's establishment when you look at the grand scheme of everything and all ideologies, but everything is relative :^) There aren't any absolutes, and to say there are is absolutely wrong. Trump's anti-establishment compared to others.

Also,
>implying ""Trump"" is the human known as Donald Trump anymore
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:33 am

Southwest Mankuta wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Lol. This is what I'm talking about. You're challenged by the fact that you got willingly cucked by the establishment so you lash out at everyone who disagrees with you and call them leftists and liberals.

YOU are unwilling to accept defeat so you pull the idea that trump is a globalist out of your ass.
Fine, i won't talk to you or your wifes son ever again

Defeat? Clinton or Trump would have been defeat.

And I just said Trump wasn't a globalist. lol. He's definitely an establishment Republican though. 100%. Funny how someone not part of the establishment got support from so many people in the establishment, huh?
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Postby Minzerland II » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:34 am

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:I'm wondering why Goldwater's The Conscience Of A Conservative and Buckley's God And Man At Yale, two works which provided much of the intellectual underpinnings of the Reagan Revolution (and which I personally enjoyed despite my disagreements with much of what was in both books), weren't listed in the poll.

Perhaps those 2 are largely more limited to the American right compared to the influential, more global works like Atlas Shurgged and Reflections on the Revolution of France.

That being said, I'm kind of surprised that "The Wealth of Nations" isn't in the list due to its relative influence on classical liberal economics.

Or 'Two Treatises of Government' or 'Leviathan' for that matter, y'know, for essentially sewing together and creating Classical Liberalism. But I understand why it wasn't an option, I mean, it isn't the most popular book among the Right-Wing, and lead to the Liberal Menace. Lol. Oh well.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:34 am

Nusaresa wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:How is Trump a globalist (especially compared to other politicians)? Like, I can easily see his neoliberalism in other areas, but not really that much globalism

Hack and slash, lowering of taxes, pulling investors into the country to revitalize industry doesn't sound familiar to you?

This is what third worlders do
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:35 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Southwest Mankuta wrote:This, disgusting lefties are trying to force a "TRUMP IS PART OF IT" meme

Jochi isn't a disgusting leftie, he's a disgusting radical special snowflake Islamic traditionalist.

Well. I'm sorry you couldn't be tolerant of people who disagree with you.
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Jochizyd Republic wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:Jochi isn't a disgusting leftie, he's a disgusting radical special snowflake Islamic traditionalist.

Well. I'm sorry you couldn't be tolerant of people who disagree with you.

I'm being ironic lol, you're actually pretty based.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:37 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:>Trump is establishment
So that's why the stock market plummeted when he was elected, why all the experts in the media didn't want to report his victory, and why his own party hated him? He's establishment when you look at the grand scheme of everything and all ideologies, but everything is relative :^) There aren't any absolutes, and to say there are is absolutely wrong. Trump's anti-establishment compared to others.

Yeah. He's part of a faction of the establishment. I don't think the establishment is necessarily monolithic.

The GOP and the Democrats, while both having large amounts of power, are not the same.
New confederate ramenia wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Well. I'm sorry you couldn't be tolerant of people who disagree with you.

I'm being ironic lol, you're actually pretty based.

Alright. Thanks.
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Postby Southwest Mankuta » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:38 am

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Southwest Mankuta wrote:YOU are unwilling to accept defeat so you pull the idea that trump is a globalist out of your ass.
Fine, i won't talk to you or your wifes son ever again

Defeat? Clinton or Trump would have been defeat.

And I just said Trump wasn't a globalist. lol. He's definitely an establishment Republican though. 100%. Funny how someone not part of the establishment got support from so many people in the establishment, huh?

The establishment and globalists go hand in hand and they supported CLINTON mkre than TRUMP who caled those lying rabits out.

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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:39 am

Does anyone else suspect that a lot of drama went on between Trump and the other shady rich people before he decided to run?
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Postby Nusaresa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:40 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:>Trump is establishment
So that's why the stock market plummeted when he was elected, why all the experts in the media didn't want to report his victory, and why his own party hated him? He's establishment when you look at the grand scheme of everything and all ideologies, but everything is relative :^) There aren't any absolutes, and to say there are is absolutely wrong. Trump's anti-establishment compared to others.

Also,
>implying ""Trump"" is the human known as Donald Trump anymore

Trump will be the 'establishment' as he will be bogged down by congress and fail to meet up expectations and promises. Not to mention the GOP have to work harder in order to retain Trump's voter base and enact policies that would inevitably tarnish Trump's reputation.

That is, if he gets cockblocked from fighting ISIS.

Otherwise he would most likely fail to bring back industry and jobs, fail to build the wall (only add extra portions to the existing gates), and fail to meet eye to eye with GOP members that while are anti-immigrant are backed by companies that use such illegal immigrants for cheap labor in the agricultural industries. This would hurt the relationship between rural states and the rust belt, who have been spurred more by desperation and better economic opportunities than social conservatism. The south would probably hold anyways.

This is also not mentioning potential natural disasters and unforseen hazards, which can easily tarnish his reputation in one fell swoop if he acts too slowly.

Trump may seem anti-establishment now, but in office he may end up kowtowing to lobbies and special interests. Obstructionism is another factor as well.
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Postby Nusaresa » Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:42 am

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Hack and slash, lowering of taxes, pulling investors into the country to revitalize industry doesn't sound familiar to you?

This is what third worlders do

Yes, but it plays to the tune of neoliberalism/globalism.
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