Is homophobia linked to religion?

[Greater Pareidolia]

What about homophilia? It's being used as a weapon, you know.

[Alvecia]

What about homophilia? It's being used as a weapon, you know.

Ah yes, that weaponised gay you hear so much about.

[Imperializt Russia]

What about homophilia? It's being used as a weapon, you know.

Ah yes, that weaponised gay you hear so much about.

The beh-tas that wield that sexuality as a sledgehammer to destroy the family?

[Alvecia]

Ah yes, that weaponised gay you hear so much about.

The beh-tas that wield that sexuality as a sledgehammer to destroy the family?

I'm just imagining The Banhammer but sequinned and glittered with rainbows and dildos.

[Philjia]

What about homophilia? It's being used as a weapon, you know.

Ah yes, that weaponised gay you hear so much about.

I've heard that my local gay bars generate enough camp to destroy entire planets.

[Esternial]

To an extent.

Though honestly it's linked to exposure, as well, same as racism.

If you're never exposed to homosexuals in your upbringing it's possible you view them as "different", or even consider yourself and your relatives as inherently superior. It's natural for man to be weary of anything or anybody that looks or acts different from us, and the only way to get over that is to be exposed to these people and learn through experience they're just regular human beings like everyone else, not second-rate citizens.

I'm sure many of us have some kind of discomfort towards a certain layer of the population. For some it's gays, for some it's coloured people, for others it's women.

[San Marlindo]

I used to live in a poor neighborhood where men who did anything like sing a children's rhyme or talk in a high pitched voice were perceived as some as the equivalent of women, and treated as such (women in lower income high crime neighborhoods suffer from sexual harassment and elevated risk of rape).

Majority of people in said neighborhood were totally uninterested in any form of religion whatsoever. Kind of breaks the arrogant belief by some intellectuals of religion being popular among the uneducated and illiterate masses, but anyway I digress.

Is it homophobia or just misogyny in general, which in this case extends to men? They hated men who broke the traditional gender roles, even in small ways, and displayed even the slightest bit of feminity. But they were also poor. When you're poor and a minority sometimes all you have is your reputation, which explains why poorer people in lower income places take their masculinity more seriously. Plus they sexually harassed and threatened to rape men they perceived as effeminate. Would your typical homophobe do that?

I imagine this is the way it works in some prisons. There's no women, so those men that have some remind characteristics become the women. They are used for sexual purposes by the other inmates and perform duties such as cleaning laundry for whoever claims them, that are perceived as "women's work".

People who have never been to prison or lived in a low income high crime neighborhood just can't understand how widespread this phenomenon is.

[Esternial]

I used to live in a poor neighborhood where men who did anything like sing a children's rhyme or talk in a high pitched voice were perceived as some as the equivalent of women, and treated as such (women in lower income high crime neighborhoods suffer from sexual harassment and elevated risk of rape).

Majority of people in said neighborhood were totally uninterested in any form of religion whatsoever. Kind of breaks the arrogant belief by some intellectuals of religion being popular among the uneducated and illiterate masses, but anyway I digress.

Is it homophobia or just misogyny in general, which in this case extends to men? They hated men who broke the traditional gender roles, even in small ways, and displayed even the slightest bit of feminity. But they were also poor. When you're poor and a minority sometimes all you have is your reputation, which explains why poorer people in lower income places take their masculinity more seriously. Plus they sexually harassed and threatened to rape men they perceived as effeminate. Would your typical homophobe do that?

I imagine this is the way it works in some prisons. There's no women, so those men that have some remind characteristics become the women. They are used for sexual purposes by the other inmates and perform duties such as cleaning laundry for whoever claims them, that are perceived as "women's work".

People who have never been to prison or lived in a low income high crime neighborhood just can't understand how widespread this phenomenon is.

A sad but interesting perspective. I certainly wasn't unware of that, thanks for sharing.

[Vassenor]

>weaponised homophilia

Wait what

[Giovenith]

It's engrained in a lot of religion, but I don't think it's necessarily dependent on religion.

[Liriena]

>weaponised homophilia

Wait what

Somebody's been reading chick tracts.

[Settrah]

>weaponised homophilia

Wait what

I imagine it's something like this.

[Greater Pareidolia]

Ah yes, that weaponised gay you hear so much about.

The beh-tas that wield that sexuality as a sledgehammer to destroy the family?

Sigh.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/11/george-soros-the-money-behind-the-transgender-move/

Now, because this forum always needs a disclaimer because people are usually not very smart and/or overly emotional:
I AM NOT AGAINST GAYS OR TRANSGENDERS. I am against them being weaponized by having their ideals taken advantage of. And sadly, that factors in a lot of naiveté.

I firmly believe that whatever Geroge Soros wants is bad for everybody else. LGBT people are just pawns to him. Listen: for him to gain power, he needs more EU.

Part of that is messing with the nuclear family. After all, the less people who give birth, the
better. The goal is after all to supplant locals. As a result, LGBT groups are getting funding to do their passive-aggressive rainbow shtick. It is highly unlikely same-sex relationships will get many children, as it takes a whole lot more effort for them to become parents than same-sex relationships.

So now you have less locals thanks to an already aging population coupled with more people outing themselves as gay because it's more acceptable to be such.

But how does that lead to George Soros benefiting from this?

He needs to tear down national identities. Part of that is unbridled immigration by people who have more children and are not as smart as the locals. All of this under the guise of replenishing the working population, of course. Not only are these immigrants less likely to see what is really going on (Not PC? Screw it. IQs are demonstrably lower in areas where these migrants come from. Facts don't care about your feelings.), but they also have no ties to the new country. Do you really think Murat from Mosul really gives a shit about the Eiffel tower or French sovereignty as much as Pierre from Paris?)

The clincher is that Soros doesn't actually give a shit about LGBT. In fact, the unbridled immigration is most likely going to be disastrous for the LGBT community because since those immigrants adhere to a certain everything-hating "religion", they are going to thank said community for their help (if that) after which they are promptly killed in a barbaric fashion. Which is why the LGBT support for islam mystifies me. It's like a Jew helping Nazis. (Incidentally, George Soros is a Jew who helped Nazis. He said it was the happiest time of his life.)

Edit: Aw, how cute. So much facetiousness. It warms the heart.

[Quokkastan]

What about homophilia? It's being used as a weapon, you know.

Yes. The hospital wards are overflowing with victims.

[Stahn]

Not all religions are or were as or at all homophobic. It seems to be most apparent in Abrahamic religions as far as I know.

[Settrah]

Wouldn't a better term for it be 'faux political LGBT?'

I'm pretty sure homophilia stopped being a widespread used term in the 60s.

[Imperializt Russia]

Is George Soros just the right-wing's boogeyman because they desperately need to deflect from the Koch Bros or something?

[Alvecia]

Not at all seeing the weaponised bit here....

[Soldati Senza Confini]

No.

[Liriena]

The beh-tas that wield that sexuality as a sledgehammer to destroy the family?

Sigh.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/11/george-soros-the-money-behind-the-transgender-move/

Now, because this forum always needs a disclaimer because people are usually not very smart and/or overly emotional:
I AM NOT AGAINST GAYS OR TRANSGENDERS. I am against them being weaponized by having their ideals taken advantage of. And sadly, that factors in a lot of naiveté.

I firmly believe that whatever Geroge Soros wants is bad for everybody else. LGBT people are just pawns to him. Listen: for him to gain power, he needs more EU.

Part of that is messing with the nuclear family. After all, the less people who give birth, the
better. The goal is after all to supplant locals. As a result, LGBT groups are getting funding to do their passive-aggressive rainbow shtick. It is highly unlikely same-sex relationships will get many children, as it takes a whole lot more effort for them to become parents than same-sex relationships.

So now you have less locals thanks to an already aging population coupled with more people outing themselves as gay because it's more acceptable to be such.

But how does that lead to George Soros benefiting from this?

He needs to tear down national identities. Part of that is unbridled immigration by people who have more children and are not as smart as the locals. All of this under the guise of replenishing the working population, of course. Not only are these immigrants less likely to see what is really going on (Not PC? Screw it. IQs are demonstrably lower in areas where these migrants come from. Facts don't care about your feelings.), but they also have no ties to the new country. Do you really think Murat from Mosul really gives a shit about the Eiffel tower or French sovereignty as much as Pierre from Paris?)

The clincher is that Soros doesn't actually give a shit about LGBT. In fact, the unbridled immigration is most likely going to be disastrous for the LGBT community because since those immigrants adhere to a certain everything-hating "religion", they are going to thank said community for their help (if that) after which they are promptly killed in a barbaric fashion. Which is why the LGBT support for islam mystifies me. It's like a Jew helping Nazis. (Incidentally, George Soros is a Jew who helped Nazis. He said it was the happiest time of his life.)

So... a paranoid, xenophobic rant based on the fact that a prominent liberal rich guy supports the trans rights movement with his own money?

Meh.

[Greater Pareidolia]

Is George Soros just the right-wing's boogeyman because they desperately need to deflect from the Koch Bros or something?

Please. The Koch Bros are America's equivalent of him. Except that the Koches never actually worked with nazis, as far as I know.

[Quokkastan]

Not all religions are or were as or at all homophobic. It seems to be most apparent in Abrahamic religions as far as I know.

The question, then, would be if adherents to these other religions are homophobic. And what is their reasoning if so.

[Liriena]

Is George Soros just the right-wing's boogeyman because they desperately need to deflect from the Koch Bros or something?

Please. The Koch Bros are America's equivalent of him. Except that the Koches never actually worked with nazis, as far as I know.

Even the people at /r/the_Donald think your accusation against Soros is a load of bullcrap.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4ad404/george_soros_helping_nazis_was_the_happiest_time/

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I firmly believe that whatever Geroge Soros wants is bad for everybody else.

Jesus, it's like there's no nuance in this.

So you mean to tell me that if George Soros wanted America to be more powerful than before that'd be bad just because it is George Soros and you'd be working to tear down America to the ground? Really?

Is this really the hill you want to die on, Pareidolia?

[Migdal Bavel]

There is significant evidence that if you tell people about a 'new' sexuality (either a real one, or one they made up just now), people in general will immediately display prejudice against them. It is, I think, hard to blame a prejudice like that on religion.
Plus, homophobia is a lot more universal than one might expect if it sprung from religion - one finds it outside the Abrahamic faiths, as well.
I suspect that the issue is not religion itself, but rather the difference in temprament and cultural background between the average conservative Christian, and the average atheist. Religion provides, at most, justification for beliefs people have anyway (In this case, that's not a general statement).