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Postby Devon Teyson » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:16 am

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A German court has ruled that the parents of a 15-year-old girl cannot prevent her from having a sexual relationship with her 47-year-old uncle, according to reports.

The teenager, named only as Josephine due to German privacy laws, made headlines when she ran away with her uncle at the age of 14.

When the couple was discovered in France by police, Josephine said she had chosen to run away and was in live with the older man, who was her uncle by marriage.

Josephine's parents reportedly sought a court order to prevent her from being in contact with her uncle on the grounds that it put her welfare at risk.

But the teenager challenged the order and won, with the court ruling that at 14 her own wishes must be taken into account, according to the Telegraph.

The judge reportedly ruled that Josephine risked “serious damage in her social-emotional and mental development” if she was prevented from further contact with the uncle, but added that the decision in no way amounted to an endorsement or approval of the relationship.


Something tells me that this girl was in no position to disagree with said uncle in the first place. Maybe it's because the uncle is basically an authority figure and intimidated the girl to not only run away from her parents (who filed the court order) but also intimidated her into challenging said court order.

No fourteen year old has the mental capacity to be able to make decisions like this and she's putting herself at massive risk with this kind of relationship, which will no doubt affect her views on men and on relationships. The fact that the parents had sought to intervene to prevent her from seeing this "man" shows that there was an element of danger about this and therefore the courts should have sided with the parents.

So what do we think NSG?

It's not illegal though. In Germany the age of consent is 14. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

Wow... Well, that makes sense given the historical background.
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The age of consent's been 14 since the Empire was born.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:51 am

Point of evidence #411 that people who seriously talk about "cultural marxism" don't know what they're chatting - Germany have age of consent being 14 is because of "cultural marxism".
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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:33 am

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Pretty much. Followed up with a storm of "how dare countries which are not America not work like America" along with some more reasoned discussions of the ethical issues.


Don't try to turn this into a nationalism thing.

This is a "14 is objectively too damn young to consent to sex" thing.


What the hell are you talking about? This is totally a nationalism thing! In America as a 20 year old if I had sex with a 16 year old it would be statutory rape and I would be a pedophile and a sex offender and serve jail time. In majority of the UK its the age of consent and is completely normal. According to you "Its wrong and disgusting" even though its a four year age difference and I'm sure your parents age gap is much wider than that! Youd then tell me how dare I do such a horrible crime full of pedophilia and what have you and when I say "Its a UK thing" you complain. That's literally what's happening for the most part. Literally in America a 20yo and a 16yo do not go together. In the UK I wouldn't say its common but you aren't a pedophile and you don't get classified as a rapist. In my eyes this whole "14yo German" vs NS community appears to be a nationalistic view point. Now my take on it, idk the age of consent in Germany but if its 14 then hey the uncle is not a pedophile AND to be fair as weird as it sounds she isn't blood related to the uncle so on a technicality its alright. Weird. But not illegal. You see this kind of problem on the Jeremy Kyle show a lot.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:41 am

I'm pretty sure that at least some US states must permit an adult and a sixteen year old in a consensual relationship.
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Postby Ashlak » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:42 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm pretty sure that at least some US states must permit an adult and a sixteen year old in a consensual relationship.


Age of consent laws in the US are either sixteen or eighteen, depending on the state.
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Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm pretty sure that at least some US states must permit an adult and a sixteen year old in a consensual relationship.


Age of consent laws in the US are either sixteen or eighteen, depending on the state.

Some are 17 I believe.
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Postby Rio Cana » Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:46 am

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The solution is easy. Start a grass root campaign and change the laws. Also, you can vote for other political parties.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:02 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm pretty sure that at least some US states must permit an adult and a sixteen year old in a consensual relationship.


Age of consent laws in the US are either sixteen or eighteen, depending on the state.


Can't girls get married at 13 in New Hampshire with parental consent?

Jerry Lee Lewis definitely married his 13 year old cousin in the late 1950s.
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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:07 am

Ashlak wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm pretty sure that at least some US states must permit an adult and a sixteen year old in a consensual relationship.


Age of consent laws in the US are either sixteen or eighteen, depending on the state.


I thought it was 18 all across the board
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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:09 am

Frank Zipper wrote:
Ashlak wrote:
Age of consent laws in the US are either sixteen or eighteen, depending on the state.


Can't girls get married at 13 in New Hampshire with parental consent?

Jerry Lee Lewis definitely married his 13 year old cousin in the late 1950s.


Key word was 50s. The further back in US history you go the wider the age gaps. Pretty soon you go far back enough the age gap closes again and you've got Jim and Kathy marrying at age 13 before hopping on the Oregon trail!
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Postby Sanctissima » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:10 am

Germany, we already know you've got some pretty weird fetishes. You don't need to announce them to the world.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:13 am

Sjovenia wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:
Can't girls get married at 13 in New Hampshire with parental consent?

Jerry Lee Lewis definitely married his 13 year old cousin in the late 1950s.


Key word was 50s. The further back in US history you go the wider the age gaps. Pretty soon you go far back enough the age gap closes again and you've got Jim and Kathy marrying at age 13 before hopping on the Oregon trail!

Actually, the law specifies there must be special circumstances, but 13 is still a marriageable age in New Hampshire for girls - 14 for boys (with parental consent).

That's never been changed.
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Postby Des-Bal » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:17 am

Sjovenia wrote:
Key word was 50s. The further back in US history you go the wider the age gaps. Pretty soon you go far back enough the age gap closes again and you've got Jim and Kathy marrying at age 13 before hopping on the Oregon trail!


Sjovenia wrote:I thought it was 18 all across the board


In New Hampshire a 13 year old girl can get married with her parents consent.

16 is the most common age of consent in the US. There are only 11 states where the age of consent is 18.
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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:28 am

Why are age gaps frowned upon in the Western world but just fine in other countries? Because culture?
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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:33 am

Galloism wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:
Key word was 50s. The further back in US history you go the wider the age gaps. Pretty soon you go far back enough the age gap closes again and you've got Jim and Kathy marrying at age 13 before hopping on the Oregon trail!

Actually, the law specifies there must be special circumstances, but 13 is still a marriageable age in New Hampshire for girls - 14 for boys (with parental consent).

That's never been changed.


Well back in the day it was normal because hey get married at 13 have kids by 15 and die by 28 (probably of dysentery).
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Sjovenia wrote:
Key word was 50s. The further back in US history you go the wider the age gaps. Pretty soon you go far back enough the age gap closes again and you've got Jim and Kathy marrying at age 13 before hopping on the Oregon trail!


Sjovenia wrote:I thought it was 18 all across the board


In New Hampshire a 13 year old girl can get married with her parents consent.

16 is the most common age of consent in the US. There are only 11 states where the age of consent is 18.


I'm not even sure what it was in Texas. If I recall correctly as I haven't been back in a year and a half I think age of consent was 18 but there was the Romeo and Juliet laws that would null the whole statutory rape thing as long as the parents consented as well.
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:37 am

The girl wanted it and so I see nothing wrong in it.
Well, it was underage though so I would`ve liked approval by the parents as well.
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Postby Galloism » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:41 am

Sjovenia wrote:
Galloism wrote:Actually, the law specifies there must be special circumstances, but 13 is still a marriageable age in New Hampshire for girls - 14 for boys (with parental consent).

That's never been changed.


Well back in the day it was normal because hey get married at 13 have kids by 15 and die by 28 (probably of dysentery).

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:43 am

Greater Pareidolia wrote:Why are age gaps frowned upon in the Western world but just fine in other countries? Because culture?

Substantial age gaps in other countries, such as old men (middle age and beyond) and young children (like 12 and under) are often frowned upon in the west, mate.

Not sure where you got the impression they were """fine""".
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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:57 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Greater Pareidolia wrote:Why are age gaps frowned upon in the Western world but just fine in other countries? Because culture?

Substantial age gaps in other countries, such as old men (middle age and beyond) and young children (like 12 and under) are often frowned upon in the west, mate.

Not sure where you got the impression they were """fine""".


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Well back in the day it was normal because hey get married at 13 have kids by 15 and die by 28 (probably of dysentery).

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:11 am

Greater Pareidolia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Substantial age gaps in other countries, such as old men (middle age and beyond) and young children (like 12 and under) are often frowned upon in the west, mate.

Not sure where you got the impression they were """fine""".


http://www.elsevier.nl/nederland/article/2015/09/waarom-erkent-nederland-gezinshereniging-kindhuwelijken-2693495W/

https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2016/02/12/jaarlijks-ongeveer-250-kindhuwelijken-in-nederland

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Postby Kollin » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:20 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:
Key word was 50s. The further back in US history you go the wider the age gaps. Pretty soon you go far back enough the age gap closes again and you've got Jim and Kathy marrying at age 13 before hopping on the Oregon trail!


Sjovenia wrote:I thought it was 18 all across the board


In New Hampshire a 13 year old girl can get married with her parents consent.

16 is the most common age of consent in the US. There are only 11 states where the age of consent is 18.

And a few such as New York, have it at 17.

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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Mon Nov 07, 2016 11:31 am

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What do I look like, Irish?
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Imperializt Russia wrote:What do I look like, Irish?

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