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And Germany Was Worried About Migrants...

Postby Costa Fierro » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:36 pm

...when it has its own creepy pedophiles as citizens!

A German court has ruled that the parents of a 15-year-old girl cannot prevent her from having a sexual relationship with her 47-year-old uncle, according to reports.

The teenager, named only as Josephine due to German privacy laws, made headlines when she ran away with her uncle at the age of 14.

When the couple was discovered in France by police, Josephine said she had chosen to run away and was in live with the older man, who was her uncle by marriage.

Josephine's parents reportedly sought a court order to prevent her from being in contact with her uncle on the grounds that it put her welfare at risk.

But the teenager challenged the order and won, with the court ruling that at 14 her own wishes must be taken into account, according to the Telegraph.

The judge reportedly ruled that Josephine risked “serious damage in her social-emotional and mental development” if she was prevented from further contact with the uncle, but added that the decision in no way amounted to an endorsement or approval of the relationship.


Something tells me that this girl was in no position to disagree with said uncle in the first place. Maybe it's because the uncle is basically an authority figure and intimidated the girl to not only run away from her parents (who filed the court order) but also intimidated her into challenging said court order.

No fourteen year old has the mental capacity to be able to make decisions like this and she's putting herself at massive risk with this kind of relationship, which will no doubt affect her views on men and on relationships. The fact that the parents had sought to intervene to prevent her from seeing this "man" shows that there was an element of danger about this and therefore the courts should have sided with the parents.

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Postby The Greater German Federal Republic » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:44 pm

We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:50 pm

The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.


have you thought thought the compatibility of this stance with the german constitution and existing european legislation the specific suitability to this case and statutory rape in general or did you just immediately jump to "KILL ALL PEDOS"?
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Postby Ebliania » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:51 pm

Souseiseki wrote:
The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.


have you thought thought the compatibility of this stance with the german constitution and existing european legislation the specific suitability to this case and statutory rape in general or did you just immediately jump to "KILL ALL PEDOS"?

isn't that what your country has been peddling these days

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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:54 pm

Ebliania wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
have you thought thought the compatibility of this stance with the german constitution and existing european legislation the specific suitability to this case and statutory rape in general or did you just immediately jump to "KILL ALL PEDOS"?

isn't that what your country has been peddling these days


well that depends on your definition of "peddling". there's a difference between what they say and what they do.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:55 pm

The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.


Because we need to encourage sex offenders to kill their victims in order to cover up a capital crime!

Also, Pedophilia =/= Child Molestation
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Postby Ebliania » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:57 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.


Because we need to encourage sex offenders to kill their victims in order to cover up a capital crime!

Technically they get out of it ;)

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Postby Mefpan » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:58 pm

It's times like these that I hate my country and its government even more than I already do.
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Postby Roman Catholic Britain » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:59 pm

My dear Germans, even as an American citizen I hope your country can pass through your time of crucial crisis.

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Postby Crockerland » Sun Nov 06, 2016 9:59 pm

The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

I would agree if that didn't give pedophiles the incentive to murder the children to prevent them from telling anyone, since they'll be killed anyways.
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Postby Ebliania » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:00 pm

Roman Catholic Britain wrote:My dear Germans, even as an American citizen I hope your country can pass through your time of crucial crisis.

is pedophilia more pressing than migrants now

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:00 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:...when it has its own creepy pedophiles as citizens!

A German court has ruled that the parents of a 15-year-old girl cannot prevent her from having a sexual relationship with her 47-year-old uncle, according to reports.

The teenager, named only as Josephine due to German privacy laws, made headlines when she ran away with her uncle at the age of 14.

When the couple was discovered in France by police, Josephine said she had chosen to run away and was in live with the older man, who was her uncle by marriage.

Josephine's parents reportedly sought a court order to prevent her from being in contact with her uncle on the grounds that it put her welfare at risk.

But the teenager challenged the order and won, with the court ruling that at 14 her own wishes must be taken into account, according to the Telegraph.

The judge reportedly ruled that Josephine risked “serious damage in her social-emotional and mental development” if she was prevented from further contact with the uncle, but added that the decision in no way amounted to an endorsement or approval of the relationship.


Something tells me that this girl was in no position to disagree with said uncle in the first place. Maybe it's because the uncle is basically an authority figure and intimidated the girl to not only run away from her parents (who filed the court order) but also intimidated her into challenging said court order.

No fourteen year old has the mental capacity to be able to make decisions like this and she's putting herself at massive risk with this kind of relationship, which will no doubt affect her views on men and on relationships. The fact that the parents had sought to intervene to prevent her from seeing this "man" shows that there was an element of danger about this and therefore the courts should have sided with the parents.

So what do we think NSG?

It's not illegal though. In Germany the age of consent is 14. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:00 pm

The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

What paedophilia?

This is ephebophilia and/or hebephilia.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:03 pm

The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe
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Postby Ebliania » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:04 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

There's an issue with her "lack of capacity for sexual self-determination." It's her uncle after all

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Postby Crockerland » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

The age of consent is 12 in Angola and some Mexican states, that doesn't make it okay.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:06 pm

Ebliania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

There's an issue with her "lack of capacity for sexual self-determination." It's her uncle after all

She didn't make the complaint therefore under German law no crime was committed and the parents had no legal standing.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:06 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

The age of consent is 12 in Angola and some Mexican states, that doesn't make it okay.


it doesn't make it ok but it does mean the courts are severely limited in what they can do
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:06 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

The age of consent is 12 in Angola and some Mexican states, that doesn't make it okay.

Also Vatican City.
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Postby Seraven » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:06 pm

Ebliania wrote:
Roman Catholic Britain wrote:My dear Germans, even as an American citizen I hope your country can pass through your time of crucial crisis.

is pedophilia more pressing than migrants now


Well....depending on the perspectives.

Thermodolia wrote:
The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe


That is very surprising for me, actually. I always though the ages of consent in Europe is 17/18.
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Postby Ebliania » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:07 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ebliania wrote:There's an issue with her "lack of capacity for sexual self-determination." It's her uncle after all

She didn't make the complaint therefore under German law no crime was committed and the parents had no legal standing.

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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:07 pm

Crockerland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:No one legally forced her to do this as she legally consented to it. Age of consent is 14 in Germany https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of ... _in_Europe

The age of consent is 12 in Angola and some Mexican states, that doesn't make it okay.

Doesn't make it "ok" however the courts can't just up and declare what they want.
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Galloism wrote:
Crockerland wrote:The age of consent is 12 in Angola and some Mexican states, that doesn't make it okay.

Also Vatican City.

Funny joke
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Postby Seraven » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:10 pm

Galloism wrote:
Crockerland wrote:The age of consent is 12 in Angola and some Mexican states, that doesn't make it okay.

Also Vatican City.


Fair points.
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Postby Olivaero » Sun Nov 06, 2016 10:11 pm

Galloism wrote:
The Greater German Federal Republic wrote:We Germans need the death penalty for pedophilia, since forcing children to do this is just vile.

What paedophilia?

This is ephebophilia and/or hebephilia.

Hebeophilia I think as shes 14. Depends if he's still interested in her after she turns 15.
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