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[Liriena]

During the late Ottoman Empire they had some fairly liberal sultans, though.

The Ottoman Empire was still an Islamist theocracy. And usually quite illiberal. Sometimes even genocidal. And always corrupt. Erdogan would fit right in.

During the late Ottoman Empire they had some fairly liberal sultans, though.

A fairly liberal sultan is still a muslim sultan because they had to be. No amount of qualification can fix the fact that you were wrong.

Points taken.

[The Forsworn Knights]

To be a sultan you also had to assassinate every single one of your brothers until the only ones left standing were the ones who announced publicly that they had given up their claims.

So... Game of Thrones, but cooler.

More like The Hunger Games, only you had to assassinate/force them to capitulate instead of just walking up and shanking them in broad daylight.

[Novus America]

A fairly liberal sultan is still a muslim sultan because they had to be. No amount of qualification can fix the fact that you were wrong.

To be a sultan you also had to assassinate every single one of your brothers until the only ones left standing were the ones who announced publicly that they had given up their claims.

In that case Erdogan would fit right in. All his former associates who might be a threat also got purged until only he remains.

[The Forsworn Knights]

To be a sultan you also had to assassinate every single one of your brothers until the only ones left standing were the ones who announced publicly that they had given up their claims.

In that case Erdogan would fit right in. All his former associates who might be a threat also go purged until only he remains.

Yeah, Erdogan would likely have been a sultan if he was born a prince. Either that or his brothers would peg him as a threat and have him poisoned at his wedding after he finishes insulting his dwarf uncle.
The idea was that the Sultan would have a ton of sons with a ton of women, and the most cunning/lucky/popular among them would end up being the last of the contenders and would inherit. If you did not want to inherit you could announce as much and lose all claim to the title- but you would also no longer be a target. It did not make for good Sultans, but it made for smart ones.

[ChicagoBoys]

Turkey is even censoring ISIS now. ISIS claims trsponsibility for today's bombing and yet the Turkish government insists it was the Kurds. Yet people will still deny Turkey is leading and protecting ISIS.

[Sareva]

Then why are your moslim brothers making such a big stink about the areas they lost to Israel? They attacked, they lost, they couldn't defend themselves, and lost ground. But they bitch to the UN.

Also, I want Kurds in my country. Sadly, in most of Europe, the largest nationality behind the native one is usually Turkish. Which kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiind of makes for a bad deal. Unless you're willing to take those Turks back in exchange for us getting the Kurds? I'd be all over that in a heartbeat. You know why? Because while individually Turks are great people, when you get them together, they are by and large a bunch of nationalist pricks who take offense where none is intended (or even present!) I mean, come on, what kind of people drive around in the country they are GUESTS in to support their home country, even say that they prefer the sultan to the prime minister of their new home, and stay here?

Firstly, I don't give a fuck about palestinians. If they can't manage to defend themselves I don't care

Secondly, yes please, would be a dream come true. Get rid of kurds and bring in more turks? Yes!

I think it has less to do with "defense" and more with being outgunned by your opponent who has god damn fighter aircraft and modern tanks while all you have are redneck fireworks. Also, damn, even I am not that kind of patriotic. I love everybody in my country, not just my ethnic group.

[Sanctissima]

In that case Erdogan would fit right in. All his former associates who might be a threat also go purged until only he remains.

Yeah, Erdogan would likely have been a sultan if he was born a prince. Either that or his brothers would peg him as a threat and have him poisoned at his wedding after he finishes insulting his dwarf uncle.
The idea was that the Sultan would have a ton of sons with a ton of women, and the most cunning/lucky/popular among them would end up being the last of the contenders and would inherit. If you did not want to inherit you could announce as much and lose all claim to the title- but you would also no longer be a target. It did not make for good Sultans, but it made for smart ones.

Eh, yes and no.

Sometimes it was just a matter of which son was closest to the capital at the time of the sultan's death.

And which one had enough money to bribe the Janissaries to... deal with the others.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Yeah, Erdogan would likely have been a sultan if he was born a prince. Either that or his brothers would peg him as a threat and have him poisoned at his wedding after he finishes insulting his dwarf uncle.
The idea was that the Sultan would have a ton of sons with a ton of women, and the most cunning/lucky/popular among them would end up being the last of the contenders and would inherit. If you did not want to inherit you could announce as much and lose all claim to the title- but you would also no longer be a target. It did not make for good Sultans, but it made for smart ones.

Eh, yes and no.

Sometimes it was just a matter of which son was closest to the capital at the time of the sultan's death.

And which one had enough money to bribe the Janissaries to... deal with the others.

Cunning/Lucky/Popular

[Greater Pareidolia]

Firstly, I don't give a fuck about palestinians. If they can't manage to defend themselves I don't care

Secondly, yes please, would be a dream come true. Get rid of kurds and bring in more turks? Yes!

I think it has less to do with "defense" and more with being outgunned by your opponent who has god damn fighter aircraft and modern tanks while all you have are redneck fireworks. Also, damn, even I am not that kind of patriotic. I love everybody in my country, not just my ethnic group.

Actually, it's palestinians who pick the fight with Israel over and over again. In fact, Israel has shown amazing restraint.

[Sareva]

I think it has less to do with "defense" and more with being outgunned by your opponent who has god damn fighter aircraft and modern tanks while all you have are redneck fireworks. Also, damn, even I am not that kind of patriotic. I love everybody in my country, not just my ethnic group.

Actually, it's palestinians who pick the fight with Israel over and over again. In fact, Israel has shown amazing restraint.

Oh, I agree with you there. Very obvious proof in that case. It was more of the fact he/she was basically dismissing Palestinians because they keep losing to the Israelis because they can't "defend" themselves. The comments made seemed more baity and trolling in sense then actual decent comments.

[Greater Pareidolia]

Actually, it's palestinians who pick the fight with Israel over and over again. In fact, Israel has shown amazing restraint.

Oh, I agree with you there. Very obvious proof in that case. It was more of the fact he/she was basically dismissing Palestinians because they keep losing to the Israelis because they can't "defend" themselves. The comments made seemed more baity and trolling in sense then actual decent comments.

To be frank, I've trouble gauging Turks. It's hard to tell whether they are so harsh because it's their nature or because they have to be harsh by their culture's male standards. (Yeah, call that racist if you want, it's the truth as I observe it.)

[The Alexanderians]

I'm just surprised that everyone else is surprised. They've been putting on "the empire" for a while now and they've been bitching to Germany everytime a German has made a satire or parody of them. This is a logical conclusion to their behavior I'm surprised wasn't carried out a long time before now,