Turkey censored YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram...

[Sitharian]

Why are we having a new topic about something that happened 18 months ago? That's a bit like me announcing that the World Assembly Charter Working Group's repeal of GAR#2 has just been dinged by the mods!

If you are coming from future... That happened today, though that was also happened 18 months ago too.

[Greater Pareidolia]

Why are we having a new topic about something that happened 18 months ago? That's a bit like me announcing that the World Assembly Charter Working Group's repeal of GAR#2 has just been dinged by the mods!

If you are coming from future... That happened today, though that was also happened 18 months ago too.

Turkish history repeats itself. Over and over and over.

[Tinhampton]

Why are we having a new topic about something that happened 18 months ago? That's a bit like me announcing that the World Assembly Charter Working Group's repeal of GAR#2 has just been dinged by the mods!

If you are coming from future... That happened today, though that was also happened 18 months ago too.

If you wanted to write about this censorship, why couldn't you have found a more recent article? (There is also a Turkey (Mega)Thread, but, ironically, it hasn't been updated for two months now.)

[Sitharian]

If you are coming from future... That happened today, though that was also happened 18 months ago too.

If you wanted to write about this censorship, why couldn't you have found a more recent article? (There is also a Turkey (Mega)Thread, but, ironically, it hasn't been updated for two months now.)

Srry, i am not the one who found that article

[Imperial Idaho]

Dammit Turkey.

[Warltorn]

Leader of the biggest and main Kurdish party in Turkey (HDP) was arrested today, and the HDP is most likely to be closed soon.

... well, I can't wait for the Kurdish genocide.

[Sareva]

Some people do not understand the situation in Turkey even at this time. There is a military campaign going on against both Daesh and PKK. We have suffered long from terrorism, for longer than 30 years. So many people died, in particular innocent people. PKK terrorists killed two policemen in their sleep. They also drove a van full of explosives, in our capital, on innocent people who were waiting to return to their parents, children, family. Daesh attacked a wedding celebration. More than 50 people died, mostly children. We have survived a coup attempt, thanks to heroic efforts of our nation, we stood as one against the enemies of our democracy and our republic. 240 martyrs. We are One under our flag. Nobody here has a problem with Kurds, Zazas and many other ethnic groups.

But,

If you attack our civilians, our police and our soldiers, our civil servants, MPs, Mayors, then it evolves into another thing, something we call ''terrorism''. Those actions will not be tolerated. Enough. Nobody should expect from us to sit around and do nothing about our national security, while other countries use less fortunate countries as their playground. Why do we get criticised when the government impose state of emergency for 6 months, while France has practiced it for 1 full year? Why do we get criticised when we apply emergency measures to an extraordinary situation? Did you know the members of the coup used WhatsApp to communicate? Did you know how many times the ''information pollution'' on social media almost caused a chaos? The Westerners do not gather the information from various sources with various political views. They even went as further as supporting the coup attempt. There are many Turkish newspapers who criticise the government, and many papers who side with the government. The freedom of speech is much more relevant than it is projected by Foreign medias. There of course will be errors, and it is totally open to criticism, but we should do it without bias and reliable information. Wouldn't you detain an MP, or close down a newspaper or TV channel who spreads terrorist propaganda? They are not responsible citizens anymore. They are terrorists.

I understand that the situation in Turkey can be difficult to understand for foreigners. But please do research and gather information from various channels.

Here are some links to Turkish international newspapers:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ (neutral, sometimes against government newspaper)
http://www.dailysabah.com/ (pro-government newspaper)
http://aa.com.tr/en (official news agency)
http://www.dha.com.tr/english/ (another news agency which owns Hürriyet)

Your "President" has a fucking mansion the size of Versailles. Your "President" is a fucking genocidal fuckwit. Your "President" is obviously a piece of human filth who is trying to gain even more than absolute control. Arguing that people who are dissenting the government's own fucked up actions and morals is not "spreading terrorist propaganda", it's simply speaking your opinion. Acting on it is a different story: this is not the case here.

Turkey is a beautiful nation with beautiful people. Turkey's government is the ugly step-child who ruins it for everyone else. I'm also not going to read those newspapers because I highly doubt they are not under pressure to follow the state's directions. Erdogan is a really horrible person, and I refuse to accept that he is doing something "perfectly legal".

[Greater Pareidolia]

If you are coming from future... That happened today, though that was also happened 18 months ago too.

If you wanted to write about this censorship, why couldn't you have found a more recent article? (There is also a Turkey (Mega)Thread, but, ironically, it hasn't been updated for two months now.)

I think you'll find it hasn't been updated because Turks can't find this place anymore.

[Sitharian]

If you wanted to write about this censorship, why couldn't you have found a more recent article? (There is also a Turkey (Mega)Thread, but, ironically, it hasn't been updated for two months now.)

I think you'll find it hasn't been updated because Turks can't find this place anymore.

What do you mean

[Korica]

What do you suspect from Erdoğan? All this time he been trying to bring back the ottoman empire.

[New Axiom]

Some people do not understand the situation in Turkey even at this time. There is a military campaign going on against both Daesh and PKK. We have suffered long from terrorism, for longer than 30 years. So many people died, in particular innocent people. PKK terrorists killed two policemen in their sleep. They also drove a van full of explosives, in our capital, on innocent people who were waiting to return to their parents, children, family. Daesh attacked a wedding celebration. More than 50 people died, mostly children. We have survived a coup attempt, thanks to heroic efforts of our nation, we stood as one against the enemies of our democracy and our republic. 240 martyrs. We are One under our flag. Nobody here has a problem with Kurds, Zazas and many other ethnic groups.

But,

If you attack our civilians, our police and our soldiers, our civil servants, MPs, Mayors, then it evolves into another thing, something we call ''terrorism''. Those actions will not be tolerated. Enough. Nobody should expect from us to sit around and do nothing about our national security, while other countries use less fortunate countries as their playground. Why do we get criticised when the government impose state of emergency for 6 months, while France has practiced it for 1 full year? Why do we get criticised when we apply emergency measures to an extraordinary situation? Did you know the members of the coup used WhatsApp to communicate? Did you know how many times the ''information pollution'' on social media almost caused a chaos? The Westerners do not gather the information from various sources with various political views. They even went as further as supporting the coup attempt. There are many Turkish newspapers who criticise the government, and many papers who side with the government. The freedom of speech is much more relevant than it is projected by Foreign medias. There of course will be errors, and it is totally open to criticism, but we should do it without bias and reliable information. Wouldn't you detain an MP, or close down a newspaper or TV channel who spreads terrorist propaganda? They are not responsible citizens anymore. They are terrorists.

I understand that the situation in Turkey can be difficult to understand for foreigners. But please do research and gather information from various channels.

Here are some links to Turkish international newspapers:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ (neutral, sometimes against government newspaper)
http://www.dailysabah.com/ (pro-government newspaper)
http://aa.com.tr/en (official news agency)
http://www.dha.com.tr/english/ (another news agency which owns Hürriyet)

Your "President" has a fucking mansion the size of Versailles. Your "President" is a fucking genocidal fuckwit. Your "President" is obviously a piece of human filth who is trying to gain even more than absolute control. Arguing that people who are dissenting the government's own fucked up actions and morals is not "spreading terrorist propaganda", it's simply speaking your opinion. Acting on it is a different story: this is not the case here.

Turkey is a beautiful nation with beautiful people. Turkey's government is the ugly step-child who ruins it for everyone else. I'm also not going to read those newspapers because I highly doubt they are not under pressure to follow the state's directions. Erdogan is a really horrible person, and I refuse to accept that he is doing something "perfectly legal".

Well that was rude.

[Seraven]

What do you suspect from Erdoğan? All this time he been trying to bring back the ottoman empire.

Or a smaller but stronger version of Ottoman Empire. It's not quite feasible for Turkey to restoring the old territories of the Ottoman, even though technically they are the second strongest nation in NATO.

[Freefall11111]

even though technically they are the second strongest nation in NATO.

Err, no, they're really not. They don't even have nuclear weapons, and most likely never will. #2 is either France or the UK.

[New Axiom]

even though technically they are the second strongest nation in NATO.

Err, no, they're really not. They don't even have nuclear weapons, and most likely never will. #2 is either France or the UK.

Id say Germany, but I'm not sure.

[Sareva]

Your "President" has a fucking mansion the size of Versailles. Your "President" is a fucking genocidal fuckwit. Your "President" is obviously a piece of human filth who is trying to gain even more than absolute control. Arguing that people who are dissenting the government's own fucked up actions and morals is not "spreading terrorist propaganda", it's simply speaking your opinion. Acting on it is a different story: this is not the case here.

Turkey is a beautiful nation with beautiful people. Turkey's government is the ugly step-child who ruins it for everyone else. I'm also not going to read those newspapers because I highly doubt they are not under pressure to follow the state's directions. Erdogan is a really horrible person, and I refuse to accept that he is doing something "perfectly legal".

Well that was rude.

Spouting statements that don't hold up to scrutiny usually gain the attention of people who actually know what they are talking about.

[Seraven]

even though technically they are the second strongest nation in NATO.

Err, no, they're really not. They don't even have nuclear weapons, and most likely never will. #2 is either France or the UK.

Yes, sorry, misread on my part. Not the second strongest, but the second largest standing military force in NATO.

[Freefall11111]

Err, no, they're really not. They don't even have nuclear weapons, and most likely never will. #2 is either France or the UK.

Id say Germany, but I'm not sure.

They have a strong land army, but their navy is a joke compared to France & UK, plus they don't have nuclear weapons. It's not even close.

Err, no, they're really not. They don't even have nuclear weapons, and most likely never will. #2 is either France or the UK.

Yes, sorry, misread on my part. Not the second strongest, but the second largest standing military force in NATO.

That, yes, absolutely.

[Seraven]

Err, no, they're really not. They don't even have nuclear weapons, and most likely never will. #2 is either France or the UK.

Id say Germany, but I'm not sure.

Germany's military is underfunded.

Strong economy yes, an economic power in Europe. And diplomatic power, but not military.

[Gauthier]

Leader of the biggest and main Kurdish party in Turkey (HDP) was arrested today, and the HDP is most likely to be closed soon.

... well, I can't wait for the Kurdish genocide.

Which Did Not Happen of course. *nod*

[New Axiom]

Well that was rude.

Spouting statements that don't hold up to scrutiny usually gain the attention of people who actually know what they are talking about.

What?

[Farnhamia]

Some people do not understand the situation in Turkey even at this time. There is a military campaign going on against both Daesh and PKK. We have suffered long from terrorism, for longer than 30 years. So many people died, in particular innocent people. PKK terrorists killed two policemen in their sleep. They also drove a van full of explosives, in our capital, on innocent people who were waiting to return to their parents, children, family. Daesh attacked a wedding celebration. More than 50 people died, mostly children. We have survived a coup attempt, thanks to heroic efforts of our nation, we stood as one against the enemies of our democracy and our republic. 240 martyrs. We are One under our flag. Nobody here has a problem with Kurds, Zazas and many other ethnic groups.

But,

If you attack our civilians, our police and our soldiers, our civil servants, MPs, Mayors, then it evolves into another thing, something we call ''terrorism''. Those actions will not be tolerated. Enough. Nobody should expect from us to sit around and do nothing about our national security, while other countries use less fortunate countries as their playground. Why do we get criticised when the government impose state of emergency for 6 months, while France has practiced it for 1 full year? Why do we get criticised when we apply emergency measures to an extraordinary situation? Did you know the members of the coup used WhatsApp to communicate? Did you know how many times the ''information pollution'' on social media almost caused a chaos? The Westerners do not gather the information from various sources with various political views. They even went as further as supporting the coup attempt. There are many Turkish newspapers who criticise the government, and many papers who side with the government. The freedom of speech is much more relevant than it is projected by Foreign medias. There of course will be errors, and it is totally open to criticism, but we should do it without bias and reliable information. Wouldn't you detain an MP, or close down a newspaper or TV channel who spreads terrorist propaganda? They are not responsible citizens anymore. They are terrorists.

I understand that the situation in Turkey can be difficult to understand for foreigners. But please do research and gather information from various channels.

Here are some links to Turkish international newspapers:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ (neutral, sometimes against government newspaper)
http://www.dailysabah.com/ (pro-government newspaper)
http://aa.com.tr/en (official news agency)
http://www.dha.com.tr/english/ (another news agency which owns Hürriyet)

Your "President" has a fucking mansion the size of Versailles. Your "President" is a fucking genocidal fuckwit. Your "President" is obviously a piece of human filth who is trying to gain even more than absolute control. Arguing that people who are dissenting the government's own fucked up actions and morals is not "spreading terrorist propaganda", it's simply speaking your opinion. Acting on it is a different story: this is not the case here.

Turkey is a beautiful nation with beautiful people. Turkey's government is the ugly step-child who ruins it for everyone else. I'm also not going to read those newspapers because I highly doubt they are not under pressure to follow the state's directions. Erdogan is a really horrible person, and I refuse to accept that he is doing something "perfectly legal".

*** Warned for trolling. ***

Debate is fine, even attacking another poster's position, but inflamatory language like you've used here is not acceptable.

[Greater Pareidolia]

I think you'll find it hasn't been updated because Turks can't find this place anymore.

What do you mean

It's a joke implying that NS is banned by the great sultan too.

[Anollasia]

Have they not learned? You can just avoid the censorship by using VPN or something (that's what happened last time).

The people always find a way.

[Greater Pareidolia]

Have they not learned? You can just avoid the censorship by using VPN or something (that's what happened last time).

The people always find a way.

It is rather simple. Bet ol' Recep wishes he was dictator 40 years ago. But the fact that life...uh..finds a way (Dammit get out of here Jeff Goldblum) doesn't mean he is trying to crack dowm on anything and everything.

[PaNTuXIa]

An undemocratic government censored the internet? What a surprise.