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Postby Uiiop » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:58 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think we know which is more likely.
Especially seeing as how Trump voters have demonstrated a capacity for violence already as well as threats of treason and murder.

>trump supporters are violent
>conveniently ignores violence caused by Hillary supporters
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You mean the guy who thought what he did was a mistake and apologized for it lot. That's your evidence of hypocrisy?
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:59 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:When you just go along with whatever someone wants, that kind of makes you their puppet.

and where is the proof that they go along with what the Republicans want?

I just fucking told you. They repeatedly give up to Republican policy on healthcare and gun control.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:00 pm

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:To a certain extent, yes. There's a difference to my mind between saying "fascist Republicans get out" and burning a political office, and "vote my candidate" and burning a church. One is partially understandable from a dispassionate standpoint, but the other is pretty irredeemable. So the degree to which I can see this incident as a false flag is greater than the arson, yep.

1. Both of them are arson, so I'm not sure which crime you are referring to.
2. How can you say that only one of these is irredeemable?


Because one incident is burning down a church and blatantly stating "THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WITH TRUMP", whereas the other is burning down a political office (which, let's be honest, a lot of people might want to do in this election) and saying "WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST FASCIST SCUM", in essence.

Difference, yes. I mean, if you don't see it I can't help you, but it's pretty obvious.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:00 pm

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The Serbian Empire wrote:At this point, the FBI might actually be firmly GOP given the Democrats and their fondness for Black Lives Matter, aka... anti-police.


I'm more amused at how the accolades for the director a few weeks ago have been immediately turned about once he no longer does something Dems like. It's pretty funny, really.

The timing is a bit suspect. He may just be doing his job, but I wouldn't be surprised if underlings wouldn't be trying to jostle their way into his slot if he didn't do this.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:00 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:>trump supporters are violent
>conveniently ignores violence caused by Hillary supporters
kek
>calls Trump supporters racist
>conveniently ignores bob byrd connection
T O P K E K

You mean the guy who thought what he did was a mistake and apologized for it lot. That's your evidence of hypocrisy?

David Duke also apologized for his KKK membership.

Doesn't make him less of a racist.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:01 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:1. Both of them are arson, so I'm not sure which crime you are referring to.
2. How can you say that only one of these is irredeemable?

Because one incident is burning down a church and blatantly stating "THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WITH TRUMP", whereas the other is burning down a political office (which, let's be honest, a lot of people might want to do in this election) and saying "WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST FASCIST SCUM", in essence.

Difference, yes. I mean, if you don't see it I can't help you, but it's pretty obvious.

You didn't answer either of my questions.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:01 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:Especially it was because, well, a church. Black or not, you dont see Trump supporters or Republicans burning down churches.


Mhm. Burn down a political office, sure, nobody likes politicians. Burn down a church..... uhhhhhh.

...speculation that "IT'S A FALSE FLAG" based on "all Trump supporters like churches and wouldn't blow them up" is reaching pretty fucking far for that straw, my guy.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:02 pm

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The amount of stupidity it takes to burn a church and then plaster "Vote Trump" on the side of the charcoal is pretty astounding. I'm willing to bet even Trump's most derpy followers might understand that.

Especially it was because, well, a church. Black or not, you dont see Trump supporters or Republicans burning down churches.

You don't see Clinton supporters doing it either. My guess is that was a bunch of racist KKK types who somehow thought that it would scare off the blacks from voting.
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Postby Prybourne » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:02 pm

Senkaku wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Mhm. Burn down a political office, sure, nobody likes politicians. Burn down a church..... uhhhhhh.

...speculation that "IT'S A FALSE FLAG" based on "all Trump supporters like churches and wouldn't blow them up" is reaching pretty fucking far for that straw, my guy.



Regardless, it can't be ruled out.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:02 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:At this point, the FBI might actually be firmly GOP given the Democrats and their fondness for Black Lives Matter, aka... anti-police.

I'm more amused at how the accolades for the director a few weeks ago have been immediately turned about once he no longer does something Dems like. It's pretty funny, really.

Kinda resembles how pro-Trump critics of the FBI have immediately turned about now that its director decides to use their office to sway the election.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:03 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
I'm more amused at how the accolades for the director a few weeks ago have been immediately turned about once he no longer does something Dems like. It's pretty funny, really.

The timing is a bit suspect. He may just be doing his job, but I wouldn't be surprised if underlings wouldn't be trying to jostle their way into his slot if he didn't do this.


I'd guess that he's fucked if he does and fucked if he doesn't. If it came out after the election, there would be people screaming "He didn't tell us she was a crook! Political bias shenanigans". Since it came out now, there are people screaming "Political bias shenanigans". Whatever calculus he had to deal with, this must have been the best of his getting screwed options.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:04 pm

The New Confederate States wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:I just fucking told you. They repeatedly give up to Republican policy on healthcare and gun control.

And how is that the fucking proof that they didn't just DECIDE TO DO IT THEMSELF?

Um...what on Earth are you talking about? I said they are puppets, not that Republicans have installed mind control devices inside Democratic congressmen and are controlling what they decide to do.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:04 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:1. Both of them are arson, so I'm not sure which crime you are referring to.
2. How can you say that only one of these is irredeemable?


Because one incident is burning down a church and blatantly stating "THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WITH TRUMP",

I believe it said "Vote Trump", stop twisting it to suit your absurd false flag speculation.

whereas the other is burning down a political office (which, let's be honest, a lot of people might want to do in this election) and saying "WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST FASCIST SCUM", in essence.

It said "Nazi Republicans get out" or something to that effect, and there could've been people inside who could have been killed or severely injured. A lot of people might also want to murder someone who annoys them, that doesn't mean most go through with it or that it's okay. I have no idea what you're trying to prove here, really.

Difference, yes. I mean, if you don't see it I can't help you, but it's pretty obvious.

Ah yes, arson and vandalism against other properties belonging to respected institutions that could have had innocent people inside for insane politically radical ideals is acceptable only when some people do it.

Wait.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:05 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Because one incident is burning down a church and blatantly stating "THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WITH TRUMP", whereas the other is burning down a political office (which, let's be honest, a lot of people might want to do in this election) and saying "WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES AGAINST FASCIST SCUM", in essence.

Difference, yes. I mean, if you don't see it I can't help you, but it's pretty obvious.

You didn't answer either of my questions.


Except I obviously did.

I clarified exactly which arson incidents I was talking about with reference to the locations, and then answered the 'irredeemable' with the parentheses.

Wallenburg wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:I'm more amused at how the accolades for the director a few weeks ago have been immediately turned about once he no longer does something Dems like. It's pretty funny, really.

Kinda resembles how pro-Trump critics of the FBI have immediately turned about now that its director decides to use their office to sway the election.


Oh yes, exactly. It's a grand old lark.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:05 pm

The New Confederate States wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You don't see Clinton supporters doing it either. My guess is that was a bunch of racist KKK types who somehow thought that it would scare off the blacks from voting.

>clinton supporter calls out the KKK
Image

Exactly.
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Dear God, this is evil. Prayers for the people who lost their church. :(
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:05 pm

The New Confederate States wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You don't see Clinton supporters doing it either. My guess is that was a bunch of racist KKK types who somehow thought that it would scare off the blacks from voting.

>clinton supporter calls out the KKK
Image

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/
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Postby Uiiop » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:06 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:You mean the guy who thought what he did was a mistake and apologized for it lot. That's your evidence of hypocrisy?

David Duke also apologized for his KKK membership.

Doesn't make him less of a racist.

That's because he continued to act like that afterwards whereas Mr Byrd....got rated 100% by the NAACP.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:06 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:You mean the guy who thought what he did was a mistake and apologized for it lot. That's your evidence of hypocrisy?

David Duke also apologized for his KKK membership.

Doesn't make him less of a racist.

Please show proof that David Duke apologized for his KKK membership and wasn't kicked out.

Also Byrd, after renouncing the KKK, worked hard to undo the damage he caused. If you didn't already know, people can change.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:06 pm

The New Confederate States wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You don't see Clinton supporters doing it either. My guess is that was a bunch of racist KKK types who somehow thought that it would scare off the blacks from voting.

>clinton supporter calls out the KKK
Image


That pictures photoshopped lol
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:07 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:David Duke also apologized for his KKK membership.

Doesn't make him less of a racist.

That's because he continued to act like that afterwards whereas Mr Byrd....got rated 100% by the NAACP.

You mean like when he wears his fine Klan robes?
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The New Confederate States wrote:>clinton supporter calls out the KKK
Image

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-byrd-photo-klan/

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Postby New Chalcedon » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:07 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
Sorry, but they can't comment on an ongoing investigation - unless it involves Hillary Clinton's emails, 11 days out from an election.

When did the FBI become partisan hacks?


Probably just their boss covering his butt, really. I wouldn't exactly call the Fibbies partisan.


I'd like to believe that; really, I would. But you don't cover your ass by sticking your neck out, which is what Comey did.
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Postby Uiiop » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:07 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:That's because he continued to act like that afterwards whereas Mr Byrd....got rated 100% by the NAACP.

You mean like when he wears his fine Klan robes?

snopes

are you fucking kidding me

What's the issue with snopes? You seemed fine using a while ago.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 1:07 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:You didn't answer either of my questions.

Except I obviously did.

I clarified exactly which arson incidents I was talking about with reference to the locations, and then answered the 'irredeemable' with the parentheses.

That's perhaps the most confusing way that you could have possibly answered my question. Perhaps that is why I didn't see it as an answer.
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