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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:24 pm

No matter who did it or why, I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the maximum allowed by law.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:25 pm

Big Jim P wrote:No matter who did it or why, I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the maximum allowed by law.

Well, on that I think we can all agree.

... probably.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:27 pm

Galloism wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:No matter who did it or why, I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the maximum allowed by law.

Well, on that I think we can all agree.

... probably.


I would hope, but I won't bet any money.
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Postby New Werpland » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:32 pm

What kind of nefarious Hillary supporters capable of doing this live in Mississippi?

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:34 pm

...not to be silly, but totally seeing this as a false flag.
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Postby Waldriech » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:36 pm

That's disgusting. Hope they get caught and prosecuted. Trump wouldn't want his supporters to be doing shit like that. That is exactly why us who support Trump get a bad rap.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:37 pm

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The East Marches wrote:Is there anything from the police yet?

The FBI is investigating.


Sorry, but they can't comment on an ongoing investigation - unless it involves Hillary Clinton's emails, 11 days out from an election.

When did the FBI become partisan hacks?
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:38 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The FBI is investigating.


Sorry, but they can't comment on an ongoing investigation - unless it involves Hillary Clinton's emails, 11 days out from an election.

When did the FBI become partisan hacks?


Probably just their boss covering his butt, really. I wouldn't exactly call the Fibbies partisan.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:42 pm

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:the Republican Party are largely puppets of the Democratic Party

Other way around, bro.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:43 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:...not to be silly, but totally seeing this as a false flag.

Why? There's absolutely no evidence suggesting that.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:45 pm

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G-Tech Corporation wrote:...not to be silly, but totally seeing this as a false flag.

Why? There's absolutely no evidence suggesting that.


The amount of stupidity it takes to burn a church and then plaster "Vote Trump" on the side of the charcoal is pretty astounding. I'm willing to bet even Trump's most derpy followers might understand that.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:53 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Why? There's absolutely no evidence suggesting that.

The amount of stupidity it takes to burn a church and then plaster "Vote Trump" on the side of the charcoal is pretty astounding. I'm willing to bet even Trump's most derpy followers might understand that.

Ah, so you also think that the attack on that county Republican headquarters several days ago was definitely done by Trump supporters? After all, it would require at least the same level of stupidity, and even Clinton's most derpy followers would understand that.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:53 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
Sorry, but they can't comment on an ongoing investigation - unless it involves Hillary Clinton's emails, 11 days out from an election.

When did the FBI become partisan hacks?


Probably just their boss covering his butt, really. I wouldn't exactly call the Fibbies partisan.

At this point, the FBI might actually be firmly GOP given the Democrats and their fondness for Black Lives Matter, aka... anti-police.
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Postby Prybourne » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:55 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Aelex wrote:Worst is, at this point, it could be both racist Trump supporters or ideologically driven Hillary ones.
Shameful in both case.

I think we know which is more likely.
Especially seeing as how Trump voters have demonstrated a capacity for violence already as well as threats of treason and murder.


Source?
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Postby Unpredictable Galaxy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:55 pm

Marxistische Republik von Deutschland wrote:
Unpredictable Galaxy wrote:
It is much less likely that someone who supports Clinton did this to deface Trump's name, much like how it wasn't Republicans who burned down North Carolina's Republican Headquarters to deface Democrats. As soon as you pinpoint a group to have done it that is politically affiliated with a group (SJW being left, white supremacists being right) it becomes politicized. By your use of Social Justice Warrior, which is, again, used in normal context to address Democrats in general, you've labeled a group of political origin to be the cause of it, and one that is very unlikely to have done it.

I don't think the person who performed the South Carolina church shooting was a black person trying to deface white people, and we have evidence it was a white person who was a white supremacist trying to start a race war (by his own words). Same thing applies to this church.

I don't know why everything you demonstrate has to be an absolute. This isn't Stalinist Russia, ya know, there are obviously going to be exceptions to the rule. It's almost like you're purposely trying to start shit.
I'm not stating that anything bad that happens is politically charged 100% of the time.

Again, I did not address the entirety of all Democrats. I was addressing the crazies of that political spectrum - Stop putting words in my mouth, would'ja? You don't know me, or my political affiliation. I am not a caricature. Please stop strawmanning me to justify your point. Thanks.

Remember how I used words like: "I think", "Hunch" and "I have a feeling"? Notice how I didn't say "I know damn well [insert political group here] did [insert bad thing here]"?

Because it was an initial assumption. A thought. A hunch. A feeling. Those are things you get and conclude before actual evidence comes out. I'm not saying for sure that a group of political origin was at the cause of the event, but I had a FEELING it was. Understand, now?

Literally the only thing I was asserting was that I had a FEELING that it was possibly done by a political dissident to Trump. I'm not suggesting that it is the case without a shadow of a doubt, but I have a FEELING that it could be.


Much like how Trump supporters FEEL that he's winning, FEEL that voter fraud is happening, and FEEL that experts are wrong even if they've been in the field for years. This election has bastardized how people "feel," and thus speculation without facts to back it up should be discredited.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:55 pm

Wallenburg wrote:Ah, so you also think that the attack on that county Republican headquarters several days ago was definitely done by Trump supporters? After all, it would require at least the same level of stupidity, and even Clinton's most derpy followers would understand that.


To a certain extent, yes. There's a difference to my mind between saying "fascist Republicans get out" and burning a political office, and "vote my candidate" and burning a church. One is partially understandable from a dispassionate standpoint, but the other is pretty irredeemable. So the degree to which I can see this incident as a false flag is greater than the arson, yep.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:56 pm

The New Confederate States wrote:And how does this back up your claim?

When you just go along with whatever someone wants, that kind of makes you their puppet.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:56 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Aelex wrote:Worst is, at this point, it could be both racist Trump supporters or ideologically driven Hillary ones.
Shameful in both case.

I think we know which is more likely.
Especially seeing as how Trump voters have demonstrated a capacity for violence already as well as threats of treason and murder.

>trump supporters are violent
>conveniently ignores violence caused by Hillary supporters
kek
>calls Trump supporters racist
>conveniently ignores bob byrd connection
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:56 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Probably just their boss covering his butt, really. I wouldn't exactly call the Fibbies partisan.

At this point, the FBI might actually be firmly GOP given the Democrats and their fondness for Black Lives Matter, aka... anti-police.


I'm more amused at how the accolades for the director a few weeks ago have been immediately turned about once he no longer does something Dems like. It's pretty funny, really.
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Postby Unpredictable Galaxy » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:57 pm

Prybourne wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I think we know which is more likely.
Especially seeing as how Trump voters have demonstrated a capacity for violence already as well as threats of treason and murder.


Source?


https://newrepublic.com/article/138221/ ... ution-dont
https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/statu ... 6641712128
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /92799286/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/democrats-a ... ur-states/

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:57 pm

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Alright the benghazi attacks can't be because it was politically convenient for republicans.

the Republican Party are largely puppets of the Democratic Party

wat

proof plz

Besides, both of the parties are just puppets controlled by our corporate overlords.
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Postby The Portland Territory » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:57 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Why? There's absolutely no evidence suggesting that.


The amount of stupidity it takes to burn a church and then plaster "Vote Trump" on the side of the charcoal is pretty astounding. I'm willing to bet even Trump's most derpy followers might understand that.

Especially it was because, well, a church. Black or not, you dont see Trump supporters or Republicans burning down churches.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:58 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Ah, so you also think that the attack on that county Republican headquarters several days ago was definitely done by Trump supporters? After all, it would require at least the same level of stupidity, and even Clinton's most derpy followers would understand that.

To a certain extent, yes. There's a difference to my mind between saying "fascist Republicans get out" and burning a political office, and "vote my candidate" and burning a church. One is partially understandable from a dispassionate standpoint, but the other is pretty irredeemable. So the degree to which I can see this incident as a false flag is greater than the arson, yep.

1. Both of them are arson, so I'm not sure which crime you are referring to.
2. How can you say that only one of these is irredeemable?
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:58 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Why? There's absolutely no evidence suggesting that.


The amount of stupidity it takes to burn a church and then plaster "Vote Trump" on the side of the charcoal is pretty astounding. I'm willing to bet even Trump's most derpy followers might understand that.

You'd be surprised. The same could be said for the firebombing of that GOP field office in NC.

"People are fucktards" is a much more reasonable explanation than "FALSE FLERG CONSPIRASAY!!!!11111"


Galloism wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:No matter who did it or why, I hope they are caught and prosecuted to the maximum allowed by law.

Well, on that I think we can all agree.

... probably.

I give it 2:1 odds.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Wed Nov 02, 2016 12:58 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:
The amount of stupidity it takes to burn a church and then plaster "Vote Trump" on the side of the charcoal is pretty astounding. I'm willing to bet even Trump's most derpy followers might understand that.

Especially it was because, well, a church. Black or not, you dont see Trump supporters or Republicans burning down churches.


Mhm. Burn down a political office, sure, nobody likes politicians. Burn down a church..... uhhhhhh.
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