Statehood or not to statehood

[Thermodolia]

If the people want to be a state, I wouldn't object. If they want to leave peacefully and Congress lets them, I am okay with that.

The union is eternal. No state gets to leave.

[Socialist Nordia]

South Florida 51st state!

[San Marlindo]

Is this a Suprise to you? Or you just yanking chains.

Wondering why you didn't mention it in the OP when you were listing "out" states.

In the US, statehood does not equal nationhood. I've always found this fascinating.

Because outside the US the two terms are used interchangeably.

[USS Monitor]

It might be harder for Maryland police to do "hot pursuit" killings in DC after statehood, I would hope.

If you mean the PG county cops, they'll still do it. PG county has a crap police department.

[Minoa]

Wondering why you didn't mention it in the OP when you were listing "out" states.

In the US, statehood does not equal nationhood. I've always found this fascinating.

Because outside the US the two terms are used interchangeably.

Often confusingly, as the UK often refers to England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland as "the nations". Reminds me of "Zane Lowe and the Nations", an old Radio 1 show listed in the Radio Times in the mid-2000s.

[Farnhamia]

The problem with a lot of this is that the constitution says you can not make a state in a state- a lot of ours like West Virginia, Maine, etc. were created unconstitutionally, but because there was a lot of support for it, it was considered "ok". It'd be harder to find that kind of disregard for constitutional law in the Republican Congress of today.

The State of Virginia was in rebellion against the United States when West Virginia was formed. Loyal residents of the state formed a reorganized state legislature and petitioned Congress for admission to the Union. As for Maine, there was a proper bill passed by the Massachusetts legislature saying that if the people of the District of Maine voted in favor of secession from Massachusetts, they could. They did. Nothing at all unconstitutional in either case.

I do agree that it is very unlikely for either secession requests or for state reorganization requests to be granted in this day and age.

[MERIZoC]

I support gerrymandering the state boundaries.

[Farnhamia]

I support gerrymandering the state boundaries.

With an Etch-A-Sketch.

[Thermodolia]

I support gerrymandering the state boundaries.

With an Etch-A-Sketch.

That didn't work out all that well in Africa

[The Alexanderians]

Hawaii has a secessionist movement.

Probably with only a smudge more heat than Vermont's...puns aside

[Arlenton]

Vermont can leave, wouldn't mind that.

I haven't looked to much into the splitting state things, but I guess I'd be fine with it if they got to vote on it.

[The Alexanderians]

Vermont can leave, wouldn't mind that.

I haven't looked to much into the splitting state things, but I guess I'd be fine with it if they got to vote on it.

Boi.
Thems fightin' words

[Thermodolia]

Vermont can leave, wouldn't mind that.

I haven't looked to much into the splitting state things, but I guess I'd be fine with it if they got to vote on it.

Texas can leave and take the TEA Party and Trump supporters with em

[Arlenton]

Vermont can leave, wouldn't mind that.

I haven't looked to much into the splitting state things, but I guess I'd be fine with it if they got to vote on it.

Texas can leave and take the TEA Party and Trump supporters with em

I'd prefer to have Texas stay, wouldn't mind the TEA party and Trump supporters leaving though.

[Thermodolia]

Texas can leave and take the TEA Party and Trump supporters with em

I'd prefer to have Texas stay, wouldn't mind the TEA party and Trump supporters leaving though.

Mississippi?

[Arlenton]

I'd prefer to have Texas stay, wouldn't mind the TEA party and Trump supporters leaving though.

Mississippi?

No, I like Mississippi too.

And my family has quite a bit of history there.

[Gig em Aggies]

Mississippi?

No, I like Mississippi too.

And my family has quite a bit of history there.

What if we just cracked the ice and floated Alaska away?

[Mushet]

I'm not aware of any movement to make Lakota a state of the United States, the Republic of Lakota movement I'm aware of is more secessionist.

[Grand Britannia]

Isn't D.C not supposed to be in a state or a state itself by the constitution?

If the problem is representation I think there's an easier way to fix that.

[Arlenton]

No, I like Mississippi too.

And my family has quite a bit of history there.

What if we just cracked the ice and floated Alaska away?

I like Alaska as well. And what would making it into an island have to do with it being a state or not?

[Cetacea]

Wondering why you didn't mention it in the OP when you were listing "out" states.

In the US, statehood does not equal nationhood. I've always found this fascinating.

Because outside the US the two terms are used interchangeably.

thats not strictly true and there are many situations where State and Nation are not consider the same thing, most notably the 4 nations of the UK aren't separate states, theres also many situations where different nations come under a single sovereign state and others where a nation exist across a number of neighbouring states.

The US states use to be full States until they chose to limit their own sovereignty by joining in Federation. The Kingdom of Hawaii never joined the Federation and thus the Hawaiian sovereignty movement has a point

Generally a nation is not an actor in international law or international politics - that is the preserve of States

[Vochadenia]

I support statehood of territories that aren't states, ie. Puerto Rico, DC, and the territories in the Pacific that could be joined together to form one new state (maybe together with the countries that signed the Agreement of Free Association like Palau or Micronesia) but I don't really think it would be good to meddle with already existing states, maybe just get rid of those little pesky states like Rhode Island with intention to keep the amouth of states at round 50.
Thought anything of that should be done with approval of the residents of those territories and areas

PS.: Canadian provinces should be states too

[Ithqington]

My idea for New US States

Washington DC, aka "New Columbia"
Puerto Rico
Guam
Northern Mariana Islands
United States Virgin Islands
American Samoa
Delmarva (Delaware, Eastern Shore of Maryland, and Eastern Shore of Virginia)
Plymouth (Plymouth County, Nantucket, Bristol County, Barnstable County, and Dukes County)
Superior (Upper Peninsula of Michigan)
Carolina (Both North Carolina and South Carolina)
Dakota (Both North Dakota and South Dakota)
Jefferson (Northern California and Southwest Oregon)
Angeles (Southern California)

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Isn't D.C not supposed to be in a state or a state itself by the constitution?

If the problem is representation I think there's an easier way to fix that.

When they wrote that, DC didn't have millions living in her.

[Valaran]

Puerto Rico should be a state (or at least not in limbo), but I'd rather that it simply become the 51st state, and not have trade with one of the 'out' states.