US Gen. Election Thread VI: You've Got E-Mail

[Corrian]

Donald Trump’s companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders.

I can't even. I just can't.

Projection master?

[Ashmoria]

we're not going to get anything more about the emails before next Tuesday. we probably wont get anything before next year.

Indeed, thats why I dont think that it will impact the election a huge amount.

I agree. there just isn't anything to hang anything on. "there may be emails" isn't enough.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Indeed, thats why I dont think that it will impact the election a huge amount.

I agree. there just isn't anything to hang anything on. "there may be emails" isn't enough.

I don't think anything can change the election much unless either candidate dies. We're too close to Election Day.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

Indeed, thats why I dont think that it will impact the election a huge amount.

I agree. there just isn't anything to hang anything on. "there may be emails" isn't enough.

The impact on Clinton, if there is one, will largely be felt in the transition period between her and Obama, should she win.

Looking for some opinions here, who do you think would be the GOP front runner against a President Clinton in 2020? What about a Democrat for President Trump in 2020?

For the GOP, I would say Marco Rubio, Rob Portman would be two of the frontrunners, with Ted Cruz likely taking another swing at it. Maybe a Joni Ernst candidacy?

For the Democrats, I would probably say that Elizabeth Warren will be a very strong 2020 challenger if Hillary loses. Cory Booker could be promising as well, and if Gavin Newsom can win California in 2018, he could spring board into federal politics too. Kaine might have a shot too, though if Clinton loses he will be a bit tarnished.

[San Lumen]

we're not going to get anything more about the emails before next Tuesday. we probably wont get anything before next year.

Indeed, thats why I dont think that it will impact the election a huge amount.

And there is good chance their will be a change in leadership at the Bureau after the election.

[Ashmoria]

I agree. there just isn't anything to hang anything on. "there may be emails" isn't enough.

The impact on Clinton, if there is one, will largely be felt in the transition period between her and Obama, should she win.

Looking for some opinions here, who do you think would be the GOP front runner against a President Clinton in 2020? What about a Democrat for President Trump in 2020?

For the GOP, I would say Marco Rubio, Rob Portman would be two of the frontrunners, with Ted Cruz likely taking another swing at it.

For the Democrats, I would probably say that Elizabeth Warren will be a very strong 2020 challenger if Hillary loses. Cory Booker could be promising as well, and if Gavin Newsom can win California in 2018, he could spring board into federal politics too. Kaine might have a shot too, though if Clinton loses he will be a bit tarnished.

if trump loses the republicans are screwed for a good long time. the base HATED all the non-trumps who ran this time. I don't see them liking them any better next time around. rob portman doesn't have enough personality to succeed Donald trump.

[Thermodolia]

Indeed, thats why I dont think that it will impact the election a huge amount.

And there is good chance their will be a change in leadership at the Bureau after the election.

Oh there will be. Comey is already under investigation from the Office of Government Ethics and the Office is Special Counsel.

[Thermodolia]

The impact on Clinton, if there is one, will largely be felt in the transition period between her and Obama, should she win.

Looking for some opinions here, who do you think would be the GOP front runner against a President Clinton in 2020? What about a Democrat for President Trump in 2020?

For the GOP, I would say Marco Rubio, Rob Portman would be two of the frontrunners, with Ted Cruz likely taking another swing at it.

For the Democrats, I would probably say that Elizabeth Warren will be a very strong 2020 challenger if Hillary loses. Cory Booker could be promising as well, and if Gavin Newsom can win California in 2018, he could spring board into federal politics too. Kaine might have a shot too, though if Clinton loses he will be a bit tarnished.

if trump loses the republicans are screwed for a good long time. the base HATED all the non-trumps who ran this time. I don't see them liking them any better next time around. rob portman doesn't have enough personality to succeed Donald trump.

Plus Portman was one of the ones who withdrew their endorsement of Trump

[Gauthier]

So, in the event of a Trump presidency, how do we stop him? The Republicans will cave and he'll nominate a lackey to the Supreme Court. How do we block his substance-free agenda at all costs?

I fear his executive orders more than almost anything, all the things he can do unilaterally.

Naturally the Republicans in Congress will either be cricket chirps or outright praise Trump for issuing executive orders in the event the Democrats control it and block his stream of mindlessness.

[San Lumen]

I fear his executive orders more than almost anything, all the things he can do unilaterally.

Naturally the Republicans in Congress will either be cricket chirps or outright praise Trump for issuing executive orders in the event the Democrats control it and block his stream of mindlessness.

There is no way if Trump wins the Democrats get the senate.

[Gauthier]

Naturally the Republicans in Congress will either be cricket chirps or outright praise Trump for issuing executive orders in the event the Democrats control it and block his stream of mindlessness.

There is no way if Trump wins the Democrats get the senate.

On the other hand Putin might die of asphyxiation after days of nonstop laughing.

[Corrian]

Jesus, Florida has narrows fast. It was at like a 75% chance and now only at a 59% chance for Clinton. Don't you fuck this election up again, Florida, please.

Really, I can't believe Republicans are discarding that video now and coming back.

Also, the senate has narrowed again with only a 62% chance for Democrats to take it. Missouri flipped again . I really wanted to see Missouri get a Democratic senator, because that'd be interesting. It's still close though so it could go either way, but ugh, I just want this over.

Edit: I was trying not to look at 538 because I knew it'd make me feel iffy about the election. Yup, it did.

[Great Franconia and Verana]

There is no way if Trump wins the Democrats get the senate.

On the other hand Putin might die of asphyxiation after days of nonstop laughing.

Didnt know he was capable of laughter

[The Conez Imperium]

On the other hand Putin might die of asphyxiation after days of nonstop laughing.

Didnt know he was capable of laughter

He probably laughs after killing his opponents. Seems like that type of guy.

[Ashmoria]

what do y'all make of this

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ussia.html

its a story about professionals looking to see if trump's computers were being hacked by Russia and discovering instead that the trump computers were willingly talking to Russian computers.

[Gauthier]

what do y'all make of this

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... ussia.html

its a story about professionals looking to see if trump's computers were being hacked by Russia and discovering instead that the trump computers were willingly talking to Russian computers.

I'd say they need to bellow this out loud, even if I have a feeling everyone will ignore it and focus on Weinermail.

[San Lumen]

Jesus, Florida has narrows fast. It was at like a 75% chance and now only at a 59% chance for Clinton. Don't you fuck this election up again, Florida, please.

Really, I can't believe Republicans are discarding that video now and coming back.

Also, the senate has narrowed again with only a 62% chance for Democrats to take it. Missouri flipped again . I really wanted to see Missouri get a Democratic senator, because that'd be interesting. It's still close though so it could go either way, but ugh, I just want this over.

Edit: I was trying not to look at 538 because I knew it'd make me feel iffy about the election. Yup, it did.

I actually trust pollster.com and benchmark politics more at this point.

[Novus America]

Jesus, Florida has narrows fast. It was at like a 75% chance and now only at a 59% chance for Clinton. Don't you fuck this election up again, Florida, please.

Really, I can't believe Republicans are discarding that video now and coming back.

Also, the senate has narrowed again with only a 62% chance for Democrats to take it. Missouri flipped again . I really wanted to see Missouri get a Democratic senator, because that'd be interesting. It's still close though so it could go either way, but ugh, I just want this over.

Edit: I was trying not to look at 538 because I knew it'd make me feel iffy about the election. Yup, it did.

Trump is so far behind even winning Florida will not save him.

The Senate is crazy unpredictable. The Red/Blue thing does not work as many "red states" have democratic senators and "blue states" republican ones. People do fairly often vote split ticket and plus you have Johnson and that Utah guy in the mix this time. Voters for them could very likely vote against Trump but for Senate republicans.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Jesus, Florida has narrows fast. It was at like a 75% chance and now only at a 59% chance for Clinton. Don't you fuck this election up again, Florida, please.

Really, I can't believe Republicans are discarding that video now and coming back.

Also, the senate has narrowed again with only a 62% chance for Democrats to take it. Missouri flipped again . I really wanted to see Missouri get a Democratic senator, because that'd be interesting. It's still close though so it could go either way, but ugh, I just want this over.

Edit: I was trying not to look at 538 because I knew it'd make me feel iffy about the election. Yup, it did.

Trump is so far behind even winning Florida will not save him.

The Senate is crazy unpredictable. The Red/Blue thing does not work as many "red states" have democratic senators and "blue states" republican ones. People do fairly often vote split ticket and plus you have Johnson and that Utah guy in the mix this time. Voters for them could very likely vote against Trump but for Senate republicans.

Can confirm I did this.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Jesus, Florida has narrows fast. It was at like a 75% chance and now only at a 59% chance for Clinton. Don't you fuck this election up again, Florida, please.

Really, I can't believe Republicans are discarding that video now and coming back.

Also, the senate has narrowed again with only a 62% chance for Democrats to take it. Missouri flipped again . I really wanted to see Missouri get a Democratic senator, because that'd be interesting. It's still close though so it could go either way, but ugh, I just want this over.

Edit: I was trying not to look at 538 because I knew it'd make me feel iffy about the election. Yup, it did.

Trump is so far behind even winning Florida will not save him.

The Senate is crazy unpredictable. The Red/Blue thing does not work as many "red states" have democratic senators and "blue states" republican ones. People do fairly often vote split ticket and plus you have Johnson and that Utah guy in the mix this time. Voters for them could very likely vote against Trump but for Senate republicans.

How many people would you say vote straight-ticket more or less?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Trump is so far behind even winning Florida will not save him.

The Senate is crazy unpredictable. The Red/Blue thing does not work as many "red states" have democratic senators and "blue states" republican ones. People do fairly often vote split ticket and plus you have Johnson and that Utah guy in the mix this time. Voters for them could very likely vote against Trump but for Senate republicans.

Can confirm I did this.

I mean, I voted national straight and then state was a pretty split vote between Dems, Reps, and the Green party candidate as my preferred candidate for Railroad Commissioner, although I'd be happy if the Libertarian wins that election. They're both very knowledgeable about the position.

The Democrat and the Republican for Railroad Commissioner are both empty suits, not to mention they're both idiots.

[Eol Sha]

Can confirm I did this.

I mean, I voted national straight and then state was a pretty split vote between Dems, Reps, and the Green party candidate as my preferred candidate for Railroad Commissioner, although I'd be happy if the Libertarian wins that election. They're both very knowledgeable about the position.

The Democrat and the Republican for Railroad Commissioner are both empty suits.

Is George P. Bush the Republican nominee or is that Land Commissioner?

[Novus America]

Trump is so far behind even winning Florida will not save him.

The Senate is crazy unpredictable. The Red/Blue thing does not work as many "red states" have democratic senators and "blue states" republican ones. People do fairly often vote split ticket and plus you have Johnson and that Utah guy in the mix this time. Voters for them could very likely vote against Trump but for Senate republicans.

How many people would you say vote straight-ticket more or less?

I do not have the numbers I admit. But we have a Republican governor in Maryland, despite democrats winning every other state wide election in 2014 and West Virginia has a Democrat Senator and Illinois a Republican one.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I mean, I voted national straight and then state was a pretty split vote between Dems, Reps, and the Green party candidate as my preferred candidate for Railroad Commissioner, although I'd be happy if the Libertarian wins that election. They're both very knowledgeable about the position.

The Democrat and the Republican for Railroad Commissioner are both empty suits.

Is George P. Bush the Republican nominee or is that Land Commissioner?

That's Land Commissioner.

This is the Railroad Commissioner and the election going on right now:

https://ballotpedia.org/Texas_Railroad_ ... tion,_2016

Seriously, what the fuck is a retired school teacher and a State Representative doing running as Railroad Commissioners?!

At least I know the Green Party Activist agenda and she seems reasonably eco-friendly, which I like. And the Libertarian seems to be the most qualified of the four to deal with the office, but he just didn't get the vote from me because he doesn't lay out his agenda too clearly.

[Corrian]

Jesus, Florida has narrows fast. It was at like a 75% chance and now only at a 59% chance for Clinton. Don't you fuck this election up again, Florida, please.

Really, I can't believe Republicans are discarding that video now and coming back.

Also, the senate has narrowed again with only a 62% chance for Democrats to take it. Missouri flipped again . I really wanted to see Missouri get a Democratic senator, because that'd be interesting. It's still close though so it could go either way, but ugh, I just want this over.

Edit: I was trying not to look at 538 because I knew it'd make me feel iffy about the election. Yup, it did.

I actually trust pollster.com and benchmark politics more at this point.

Why?