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Regardless of Who You Support, Who Will Win The Electoral College on Tuesday and By What Margin?

Clinton >150
12
3%
Clinton 110-150
22
6%
Clinton 70-110
55
15%
Clinton 30 - 70
103
29%
Clinton 30 <
54
15%
Trump 30 <
74
21%
Trump 30 - 70
11
3%
Trump 70 -110
5
1%
Trump 110 - 150
3
1%
Trump >150
17
5%
 
Total votes : 356

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:43 am

Ifreann wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:As far as we know, anyway.

"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"

That might actually gain him support.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Community Values » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:As far as we know, anyway.

"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"


Oh yeah, he does marijuana.

So, let's see here
Trump: Rape allegations, many other things
Clinton: Emails/Clinton Foundation
Johnson: Marjuana Use
Stein: Vandalizing stuff

Great list of presidential candidates. Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:47 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"

That might actually gain him support.

Most likely.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:47 am

Community Values wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"


Oh yeah, he does marijuana.

So, let's see here
Trump: Rape allegations, many other things
Clinton: Emails/Clinton Foundation
Johnson: Marjuana Use
Stein: Vandalizing stuff

Great list of presidential candidates. Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.


Stein did nothing wrong :p
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:49 am

Community Values wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"


Oh yeah, he does marijuana.

So, let's see here
Trump: Rape allegations, many other things
Clinton: Emails/Clinton Foundation
Johnson: Marjuana Use
Stein: Vandalizing stuff

Great list of presidential candidates. Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

*shrug* What can you do?

Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

Personally, I don't consider marijuana use to be bad or good. Like eating a sandwich, it just is.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:49 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"

That might actually gain him support.


"Among allegations of marihuana use, Johnson's poll surges among druggies. Report."
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:50 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Community Values wrote:
Oh yeah, he does marijuana.

So, let's see here
Trump: Rape allegations, many other things
Clinton: Emails/Clinton Foundation
Johnson: Marjuana Use
Stein: Vandalizing stuff

Great list of presidential candidates. Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

*shrug* What can you do?

Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

Personally, I don't consider marijuana use to be bad or good. Like eating a sandwich, it just is.

Surely you can't be that indifferent to the Holy Hoagie.
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Postby Community Values » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:52 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Community Values wrote:
Oh yeah, he does marijuana.

So, let's see here
Trump: Rape allegations, many other things
Clinton: Emails/Clinton Foundation
Johnson: Marjuana Use
Stein: Vandalizing stuff

Great list of presidential candidates. Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

*shrug* What can you do?

Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

Personally, I don't consider marijuana use to be bad or good. Like eating a sandwich, it just is.


Eh, I think that I would prefer a president that didn't do any addictive substances, but this isn't the time to look a gift horse in the mouth.
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-Huey Long

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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:54 am

The polls are definitely tightening, RealClearPolitics has Clinton at 47.5% and Trump at 45%.

This is not counting of course early voting, which Clinton's team did much better at than Trump's, nor does it show the importance of Clinton's GOTV organization which will likely make her vote more efficient.

Edge Clinton still. Until Trump's state wide polling improves, the electoral math is still a steep hill for him to climb.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:55 am

Community Values wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:*shrug* What can you do?


Personally, I don't consider marijuana use to be bad or good. Like eating a sandwich, it just is.


Eh, I think that I would prefer a president that didn't do any addictive substances, but this isn't the time to look a gift horse in the mouth.

Suspicions about a cocaine habit aside, Trump is supposedly teetotal.

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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:02 am

If Clinton does lose narrowly, as is a possibility, Comey will likely be hammered by both the Democrats and the general public for essentially throwing the election to Trump.

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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:03 am

I guess this is related to the election.

Billy Bush is having marital problems.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Myrensis » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:04 am

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
The whole impeachment process against Bill Clinton started with a bullshit investigation into Whitewater that went on and on until it diverted into bringing out poor Monica - I imagine these email investigations will similarly go on and on and widen in scope until either she completes her terms or something is found.

It's going to be a depressing 4 or 8 years.

The GOP does have a strange hate for the Clintons. Hillary in particular.

Seeing how Clinton's approval ratings go up whenever she is actually doing the job rather than running for it, she may prove surprisingly popular. If history cam repeat itself that is.


Nothing strange about it. The Clintons stole the Reagan Revolution from them. And after suffering all these years of bitter disappointment, and still reeling from the shock of their beloved traditional America electing a black man named Hussein, the hated Clintons are back to deny them their Golden Age of Conservatism yet again!

The fact that their candidate isn't a conservative by any stretch, and would cheerfully piss all over everything they hold dear to make a buck before he'd exert himself on behalf of conservative values, doesn't really even matter at this point. It's all about vengeance and venting all that pent up rage.

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:04 am

Community Values wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:*shrug* What can you do?


Personally, I don't consider marijuana use to be bad or good. Like eating a sandwich, it just is.


Eh, I think that I would prefer a president that didn't do any addictive substances, but this isn't the time to look a gift horse in the mouth.

He could do worse than weed.

I don't particularly consider Johnson to be a gift horse.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:05 am

Great Franconia and Verana wrote:If Clinton does lose narrowly, as is a possibility, Comey will likely be hammered by both the Democrats and the general public for essentially throwing the election to Trump.


He'd have to look over his shoulder and sleep with his eyes open for the rest of his life, especially if the Republican spook stories about the Clintons having their own private SPECTRE turns out to be true. Then again if it was wouldn't they have taken out Trump or at least dig out some compost on him?
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:05 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:That might actually gain him support.


"Among allegations of marihuana use, Johnson's poll surges among druggies. Report."

"Meanwhile, his Utah operation drops all pretenses of a campaign." :p
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby The Portland Territory » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:07 am

Community Values wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"


Oh yeah, he does marijuana.

So, let's see here
Trump: Rape allegations, many other things
Clinton: Emails/Clinton Foundation
Johnson: Marjuana Use
Stein: Vandalizing stuff

Great list of presidential candidates. Other than Johnson, since his is by far the least bad.

McMullin is the "best" out of all of them, really, as far as scandals
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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:07 am

Gauthier wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:If Clinton does lose narrowly, as is a possibility, Comey will likely be hammered by both the Democrats and the general public for essentially throwing the election to Trump.


He'd have to look over his shoulder and sleep with his eyes open for the rest of his life, especially if the Republican spook stories about the Clintons having their own private SPECTRE turns out to be true. Then again if it was wouldn't they have taken out Trump or at least dig out some compost on him?

The Clinton Death Machine doesn't seem to be particularly effective at its job.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:08 am

Gauthier wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:If Clinton does lose narrowly, as is a possibility, Comey will likely be hammered by both the Democrats and the general public for essentially throwing the election to Trump.


He'd have to look over his shoulder and sleep with his eyes open for the rest of his life, especially if the Republican spook stories about the Clintons having their own private SPECTRE turns out to be true. Then again if it was wouldn't they have taken out Trump or at least dig out some compost on him?

You probably meant that in the context of James Bond, but I immediately thought of it in the context of Mass Effect.
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Postby Community Values » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:12 am

Eol Sha wrote:
Community Values wrote:
Eh, I think that I would prefer a president that didn't do any addictive substances, but this isn't the time to look a gift horse in the mouth.

He could do worse than weed.

I don't particularly consider Johnson to be a gift horse.


Personal preference and all that.
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-Huey Long

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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:15 am

Community Values wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:He could do worse than weed.

I don't particularly consider Johnson to be a gift horse.


Personal preference and all that.

What's a "personal preference"? :blink:
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:18 am

The world is strange. Rep Joe Walsh, who promised revolution if Clinton wins, says Comey announcement unfair to Clinton.

Former Rep. Joe Walsh, a controversial Republican who recently vowed to grab his musket if Clinton wins the presidency, tweeted, “I want Trump to win, but what Comey just did to Hillary Is wrong & really unfair to her” and “Hillary is corrupt as hell, but the FBI Dir has no right to mess with an election.”
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:19 am

Galloism wrote:The world is strange. Rep Joe Walsh, who promised revolution if Clinton wins, says Comey announcement unfair to Clinton.

Former Rep. Joe Walsh, a controversial Republican who recently vowed to grab his musket if Clinton wins the presidency, tweeted, “I want Trump to win, but what Comey just did to Hillary Is wrong & really unfair to her” and “Hillary is corrupt as hell, but the FBI Dir has no right to mess with an election.”


Is this real life?
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Postby Galloism » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:21 am

Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Eol Sha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:22 am

Galloism wrote:The world is strange. Rep Joe Walsh, who promised revolution if Clinton wins, says Comey announcement unfair to Clinton.

Former Rep. Joe Walsh, a controversial Republican who recently vowed to grab his musket if Clinton wins the presidency, tweeted, “I want Trump to win, but what Comey just did to Hillary Is wrong & really unfair to her” and “Hillary is corrupt as hell, but the FBI Dir has no right to mess with an election.”

It's called moral terrorism. Duh. :roll:
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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