US Gen. Election Thread VI: You've Got E-Mail

[Valaran]

Note the contrast between all those, and how he painted the GOP states. Only swing states get pink for the Republicans, while even solidly blue ones get put as grey on that.

Even is polling is out by some 4-5%, this map still wouldn't be possible.

Yeah. New Mexico and Virginia are only lean Democrat, while Pennsylvania Michigan and Wisconsin are tossups?

I'd say "I want some of what they're smoking" except it's probably Trump™ smokable product and I don't want to take a few days out in the psych ward.

Optimism is clogging in the air?

heh. That was a well-crafted burn.

[United States of Natan]

We're a week and a half into our 2.5-week "Election Day" here in Oregon. I voted last Friday and voted Progressive straight down the ballot.
I refuse to believe the poll numbers on Jill Stein. She was polling 2%, true, but that was four months ago, before the DemExit after the DNC. Our local GP Chapter went from 3 members to 14 literally overnight, a 400+% increase. Most of my fellow Berniecrats — and by most, I mean 90% — went Green in the wake of Philly. I personally only know 1 Berniecrat that tipped to Hillary and it's possible he was a plant all along.
With the firing of Huma from the Clinton campaign, there's some concern about the nagging "Lolita Express" scandal nipping at Bill Clinton's heels. I'm not convinced of that, since it's something Alex Jones and Infowars are pounding at, but it would explain where David Brock got the child p r o n they attacked the Sanders Facebook pages with last summer.

1. Huma hasn't been fired.
2. You're acting just like a trump supporter: denying the polls, just because you don't want to believe them. She's still polling in the low single digits, and to think that she's going to win when there's been no evidence supporting that is ridiculous. Jill Stein is not going to win, she doesn't stand a chance. Especially when the election is less than 2 weeks away.
3. Most bernie supporters I know (such as my brother) have flipped to Hillary. Not because they don't have a problem with her, many still do, but they believe there's too much at stake with trump, and that Hillary's not perfect, but America will be ok under her, and after 4 years of slower progress, but still progress, you can elect a president who's even more progressive. I hope you consider what's really at stake in this election and make the right choice by voting for Hillary.

[Galloism]

Trump and Co. habitually destroys documents and emails while under court order to produce them and lies to the court.

[Cymrea]

Trump and Co. habitually destroys documents and emails while under court order to produce them and lies to the court.

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!


And so forth.

[Ifreann]

Donald Trump’s companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders.

I can't even. I just can't.

Seriously, damn near every criticism that gets levelled against Clinton, it always turns out that Trump has done something similar and often worse. It's bizarre. It's almost like Trump is deliberately sabotaging himself because he's a Clinton plant, but these things are years old most of the time.

[Khadgar]

Donald Trump’s companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders.

I can't even. I just can't.

Seriously, damn near every criticism that gets levelled against Clinton, it always turns out that Trump has done something similar and often worse. It's bizarre. It's almost like Trump is deliberately sabotaging himself because he's a Clinton plant, but these things are years old most of the time.

I think he didn't realize how much attention would be focused on what he's actually done over what he's said.

[Ifreann]

Seriously, damn near every criticism that gets levelled against Clinton, it always turns out that Trump has done something similar and often worse. It's bizarre. It's almost like Trump is deliberately sabotaging himself because he's a Clinton plant, but these things are years old most of the time.

I think he didn't realize how much attention would be focused on what he's actually done over what he's said.

And also on what he said previously over what he's saying now.

[Maichuko]

Trump and Co. habitually destroys documents and emails while under court order to produce them and lies to the court.

How has it taken the media this long to report this?

[New Chalcedon]

Trump and Co. habitually destroys documents and emails while under court order to produce them and lies to the court.

How has it taken the media this long to report this?

They were too busy giving him billions of dollars' worth of free coverage, hiring his former campaign staffers and generally treating him as a Very Serious Person to actually bother to do their research.

[Zurkerx]

Here's a map a friend made and show me for what he thinks:

http://www.270towin.com/maps/EDRPe

Quite frankly, this is really an optimistic outlook for Trump, one I doubt severely. He's basing it of on the fact there are a kit if angry people, the polls are wrong (He's thinking of Bernie Sanders like surprise like he did in Michigan), not as many people won't come out for Clinton due to her lack of trust, and that this is the year of the anti-establishment candidate.

It is indeed very optimistic. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan are not seriously toss-ups at this stage. Colorado should be light blue at worst, as should North Carolina and New Hampshire - there is little to indicate that these states are significantly out of line with their polling averages, which places them all in the Clinton camp. Maine's 'main' vote, incidentally, should also be more solid blue, as should Virginia and Minnesota.

Note the contrast between all those, and how he painted the GOP states. Only swing states get pink for the Republicans, while even solidly blue ones get put as grey on that.

Even is polling is out by some 4-5%, this map still wouldn't be possible.

I tried to explain to him, he refused to accept it.

Also, they have new polls out from Remington Research that show Trump either leading or closing the gap. Now, if I remember, isn't that polling agency one that leans Republican?

[Eol Sha]

It is indeed very optimistic. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan are not seriously toss-ups at this stage. Colorado should be light blue at worst, as should North Carolina and New Hampshire - there is little to indicate that these states are significantly out of line with their polling averages, which places them all in the Clinton camp. Maine's 'main' vote, incidentally, should also be more solid blue, as should Virginia and Minnesota.

Note the contrast between all those, and how he painted the GOP states. Only swing states get pink for the Republicans, while even solidly blue ones get put as grey on that.

Even is polling is out by some 4-5%, this map still wouldn't be possible.

I tried to explain to him, he refused to accept it.

Also, they have new polls out from Remington Research that show Trump either leading or closing the gap. Now, if I remember, isn't that polling agency one that leans Republican?

It is Republican-leaning.

[Zurkerx]

I tried to explain to him, he refused to accept it.

Also, they have new polls out from Remington Research that show Trump either leading or closing the gap. Now, if I remember, isn't that polling agency one that leans Republican?

It is Republican-leaning.

I thought so. Yeah, by what I am reading, 43% of the people polled are 50-69 years old. That I believe would have an effect given older people tend to support Trump.

[Gauthier]

Donald Trump’s companies have systematically destroyed or hidden thousands of emails, digital records and paper documents demanded in official proceedings, often in defiance of court orders.

I can't even. I just can't.

Seriously, damn near every criticism that gets levelled against Clinton, it always turns out that Trump has done something similar and often worse. It's bizarre. It's almost like Trump is deliberately sabotaging himself because he's a Clinton plant, but these things are years old most of the time.

The word of the day is "projection".

[Cymrea]

Something to be said for the third-party, I guess:

[Gauthier]

Something to be said for the third-party, I guess:

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"What's charges?"

[Liriena]

Trump, the candidate of law and order, just encouraged his supporters to vote twice.

[Cymrea]

Something to be said for the third-party, I guess:

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"What's charges?"

"Do I look smug? I feel smug."

[Cymrea]

Trump, the candidate of law and order, just encouraged his supporters to vote twice.

Oooooh...THAT'S how he knows the election will be rigged.

[Liriena]

Trump and Co. habitually destroys documents and emails while under court order to produce them and lies to the court.

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

TRUMP FOR JAIL 2016!


No, seriously. If he's not going to face criminal charges for any of the horrible stuff he's apparently done, I sure hope he gets sued into bankrupcy for it. I hope the woman he allegedly raped takes a yuge amount of cash from his ugly fat orange arse. I hope the people he swindled with Trump U get such a large compensation that Trump is forced to part ways with Trump Tower and his obscenely gilded apartment. I hope he's ruined after this.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Trump, the candidate of law and order, just encouraged his supporters to vote twice.

Oooooh...THAT'S how he knows the election will be rigged.

"If they don't let you vote twice the system is rigged against me!"

[Eol Sha]

Something to be said for the third-party, I guess:

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Hmm, as far as I know, neither is Clinton.

[Community Values]

Something to be said for the third-party, I guess:

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Hmm, as far as I know, neither is Clinton.

He's clear of any legal controversy, at least.

[Eol Sha]

Hmm, as far as I know, neither is Clinton.

He's clear of any legal controversy, at least.

As far as we know, anyway.

[Ken Mungus]

Hello chaps! Your local lurker here!

Apparantly Hannity reported that the whole investigation had been reopened. A blatant lie.

Yeah except the investigation actually has been re-opened, something that does not happen without substantial reasoning.

[Ifreann]

He's clear of any legal controversy, at least.

As far as we know, anyway.

"Police have seized tens of thousands of dollars of marijuana from the residence of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson"