Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:07 amFreefall11111 wrote:Like father, like son
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:09 amSoldati Senza Confini wrote:
I'm actually surprised loser.com was in the public domain all this time.
Seems to be registered in Canada
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:09 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:10 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:10 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:11 amFreefall11111 wrote:Like father, like son
Best. Image.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:11 amPresumably he's going to try and insist or prove or whatever that they continued to allow people to join the line after the closing time...to inexplicably grant benefit of the doubt because I haven't found an article on it yet.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:12 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:12 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:13 amI might be missing something here, but isn't closing time still in the future?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:14 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:14 amEarly voting.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 amSo, this is pretty awesome:
If they could replicate this cut a few thousand times in early July....
If they could replicate this cut a few thousand times in early July....
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 amThe Portland Territory wrote:Ebliania wrote:Cubans voted more for Obama back in 2012, I think it was like 50-48
This year should be much higher.
This year, according to the polls, Trump's doing very well amongst Cubans. In fact, he's doing the best amongst Republican candidates for minorities since the 80's
I guess they haven't heard this yet?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 amignore
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 amTrump is edging Clinton in Ohio polls.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 amIt is remarkable how fucking easy it is to do a "Trump". And it's not like doing a DeNiro where you're really just doing one line from one movie or Bush Sr where you're really doing Dana Carvey doing Bush, but it's doing Trump because it's so damn easy.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 amPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 amWelp, I voted at around 7:30 this morning. The line wasn't too long and I was in and out within, roughly, an hour. Since Georgia uses electronic ballots, I double checked my choices to make sure they were correct. I even took part in a short exit poll being hawked by a guy just outside of the recreation center. The lady thanking us for voting told everyone as they handed back their voter chip cards that the exit poll guy wasn't affiliated with them and that we were free to ignore him. Given how often she said it, I'm guessing she's required by law to do so.
Anyway, I voted almost straight Dem. I, obviously, selectedSanders Clinton for the Presidency. I voted for Jim Barksdale for the Senate, although he's certain to lose. I voted for my incumbent congressman, Sanford Bishop. He's a Blue Dog Democrat and while that irritates me a little I certainly wasn't gonna vote for his opponent. He's a Republican. I voted against my State Senator, Joshua McKoon in favor of his opponent, Ben Anderson for simple partisanship's sake (Anderson's campaign has no online presence and seems to be nonexistent). I voted for my State rep, Debbie Buckner. Like most of the lower-level offices here (District Attorney of the Chattahoochee Judicial Circuit, Judge of the Probate Court, Clerk of the Superior Court, Tax Commissioner, Judge of the Municipal Court, Clerk of the Municipal Court, Coroner, Marshal, Solicitor-General of Muscogee County, and the Pine Mountain Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor), she was the only candidate running for the position. I also voted for the Libertarian candidate rather than the Republican incumbent for Public Service Commissioner. There was no Dem running for the office.
As I wrote in the down-ballot thread a few weeks ago, there's a three-way race for the Sheriffship here (I, D, R). I voted for the Democratic candidate, Donna Tompkins for a couple of reasons. First of all, Tompkins managed to successfully sue the current sheriff, John T. Darr (I), for gender discrimination back in 2013 when he passed her and a fellow female officer up for a promotion to captain for a less-qualified man in the Sheriff's Department. Second of all, and more importantly to me, I voted for Tompkins because Darr decided wasted who knows how much in tax dollars on suing the city of Columbus (which has a consolidated city-county relationship with Muscogee County) for not providing his department with sufficient funds. Like, what the hell? How is the city supposed give you more money if you're wasting both your and their resources on an expensive lawsuit? It just makes no sense to me.
As for the ballot measures, there were four state-level constitutional amendments and one local ballot measure. I voted against Amendment 1 for three reasons. First and foremost, I generally oppose charter schools and increasing the influence that the private sector has on educating kids. While I agree that something should be done to reform Georgia's failing public schools, I don't like the idea of putting it in the hands of private entities whose first priority is running a profit and maintaining a healthy revenue stream. Second of all, the Opportunity School Districts this ballot measure supports creating puts the task of righting failed schools in the hands of managers who have been appointed by the governor. It doesn't allow local school boards a say in the decision and I've got a problem with that. At least according to way the companion bill is described in Ballotpedia, the Governor could appoint whoever he wants to run OSDs regardless of their qualifications. I don't want that. Third of all, the proposed OSD system is modeled, in part, off of Louisiana's Recovery School District program and Tennessee's Achievement School District program. At least as far as Louisiana's system is concerned, the total privatization of New Orleans' public schools is largely a failure. I don't want similar things to happen in Georgia. The fourth, bonus, reason for why I voted against Amendment 1 is that the amendment doesn't even guarantee that the OSD bill as it stands right now is what the General Assembly will eventually pass. All it does is allow the GA the ability to vote on it. For all I know, the GA could drastically alter the plan to whatever it want.
I voted against Amendment 2 for a couple of reasons, as well. Amendment 2 is a two-part measure. The most important part as far as I'm concerned calls for harsher penalties on people convicted for a variety of crimes involving sexual exploitation ("keeping a place of prostitution, pimping, pandering, pandering by compulsion, solicitation of sodomy, masturbation for hire, trafficking of persons for sexual servitude, or sexual exploitation of children"). To some people that might sound wonderful and great and on one level, I can agree with them. On the other hand, though, I don't agree with instituting harsher penalties on some of the specific crimes directly mentioned in the ballot question. The most prominent crime I didn't want to see harsher penalties for is prostitution. Aside from the fact that I don't think prostitution should be illegal, I don't really understand what is gained from instituting harsher penalties on prostitutes. Perhaps if they'd limited the harsher penalties to pimps and child sex traffickers then I could have voted for this amendment, but as it stands now? I just couldn't do it. The other part of the measure called for placing additional taxes on legal adult entertainment establishments (strip clubs, etc.) to help pay for a fund that tries to take care of and rehabilitate those that have been sexually exploited. I don't really have a problem with that and it's a shame that a decent idea was tacked onto a ballot measure that looks only to punish rather than rehabilitate those working in the illegal sex industry. The [url]arguments against[/url] the ballot measure in Ballotpedia were rather convincing, in fact. Doug Craig, who's running for Governor (2018) as a Libertarian, pointed out that there's no evidence of strip clubs leading to sex trafficking and that what the GA is trying to do is "find a type of business that people don’t like and and tax them for something that we would like to help". I agree with him. I also got into a big argument about my vote with my dad on the way back from the polling place and to school.
I voted against Amendment 3 mostly because I don't see a real reason to tear down the current Judicial Qualifications Commission and create a new one that's at the mercy of the General Assembly and the Governor's office. Better to just keep it as is. They don't seem to be doing a particularly poor job right now. DOn't fix what isn't broken and all that.
I voted for Amendment 4. The measure is pretty straight forward. It "dedicate[s] revenue from fireworks sales taxes to trauma care, fire protection services and public safety." Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
I also voted in favor of a local measure, pushed by the City Council and the Mayor, to "thaw" Columbus' 25-year long property tax freeze. The arguments in favor of the measure seemed pretty convincing and the city could use the extra tax revenue.
Anyway, I voted almost straight Dem. I, obviously, selected
As I wrote in the down-ballot thread a few weeks ago, there's a three-way race for the Sheriffship here (I, D, R). I voted for the Democratic candidate, Donna Tompkins for a couple of reasons. First of all, Tompkins managed to successfully sue the current sheriff, John T. Darr (I), for gender discrimination back in 2013 when he passed her and a fellow female officer up for a promotion to captain for a less-qualified man in the Sheriff's Department. Second of all, and more importantly to me, I voted for Tompkins because Darr decided wasted who knows how much in tax dollars on suing the city of Columbus (which has a consolidated city-county relationship with Muscogee County) for not providing his department with sufficient funds. Like, what the hell? How is the city supposed give you more money if you're wasting both your and their resources on an expensive lawsuit? It just makes no sense to me.
As for the ballot measures, there were four state-level constitutional amendments and one local ballot measure. I voted against Amendment 1 for three reasons. First and foremost, I generally oppose charter schools and increasing the influence that the private sector has on educating kids. While I agree that something should be done to reform Georgia's failing public schools, I don't like the idea of putting it in the hands of private entities whose first priority is running a profit and maintaining a healthy revenue stream. Second of all, the Opportunity School Districts this ballot measure supports creating puts the task of righting failed schools in the hands of managers who have been appointed by the governor. It doesn't allow local school boards a say in the decision and I've got a problem with that. At least according to way the companion bill is described in Ballotpedia, the Governor could appoint whoever he wants to run OSDs regardless of their qualifications. I don't want that. Third of all, the proposed OSD system is modeled, in part, off of Louisiana's Recovery School District program and Tennessee's Achievement School District program. At least as far as Louisiana's system is concerned, the total privatization of New Orleans' public schools is largely a failure. I don't want similar things to happen in Georgia. The fourth, bonus, reason for why I voted against Amendment 1 is that the amendment doesn't even guarantee that the OSD bill as it stands right now is what the General Assembly will eventually pass. All it does is allow the GA the ability to vote on it. For all I know, the GA could drastically alter the plan to whatever it want.
I voted against Amendment 2 for a couple of reasons, as well. Amendment 2 is a two-part measure. The most important part as far as I'm concerned calls for harsher penalties on people convicted for a variety of crimes involving sexual exploitation ("keeping a place of prostitution, pimping, pandering, pandering by compulsion, solicitation of sodomy, masturbation for hire, trafficking of persons for sexual servitude, or sexual exploitation of children"). To some people that might sound wonderful and great and on one level, I can agree with them. On the other hand, though, I don't agree with instituting harsher penalties on some of the specific crimes directly mentioned in the ballot question. The most prominent crime I didn't want to see harsher penalties for is prostitution. Aside from the fact that I don't think prostitution should be illegal, I don't really understand what is gained from instituting harsher penalties on prostitutes. Perhaps if they'd limited the harsher penalties to pimps and child sex traffickers then I could have voted for this amendment, but as it stands now? I just couldn't do it. The other part of the measure called for placing additional taxes on legal adult entertainment establishments (strip clubs, etc.) to help pay for a fund that tries to take care of and rehabilitate those that have been sexually exploited. I don't really have a problem with that and it's a shame that a decent idea was tacked onto a ballot measure that looks only to punish rather than rehabilitate those working in the illegal sex industry. The [url]arguments against[/url] the ballot measure in Ballotpedia were rather convincing, in fact. Doug Craig, who's running for Governor (2018) as a Libertarian, pointed out that there's no evidence of strip clubs leading to sex trafficking and that what the GA is trying to do is "find a type of business that people don’t like and and tax them for something that we would like to help". I agree with him. I also got into a big argument about my vote with my dad on the way back from the polling place and to school.
I voted against Amendment 3 mostly because I don't see a real reason to tear down the current Judicial Qualifications Commission and create a new one that's at the mercy of the General Assembly and the Governor's office. Better to just keep it as is. They don't seem to be doing a particularly poor job right now. DOn't fix what isn't broken and all that.
I voted for Amendment 4. The measure is pretty straight forward. It "dedicate[s] revenue from fireworks sales taxes to trauma care, fire protection services and public safety." Sounds pretty reasonable to me.
I also voted in favor of a local measure, pushed by the City Council and the Mayor, to "thaw" Columbus' 25-year long property tax freeze. The arguments in favor of the measure seemed pretty convincing and the city could use the extra tax revenue.
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 amEol Sha wrote:Welp, I voted at around 7:30 this morning. The line wasn't too long and I was in and out within, roughly, an hour.
...The line was not long but you took about an hour...
I have *never* needed over 10 minutes to vote. The USA really seems to be quite.. backwards.. in this respect :s
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 am