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Regardless of Who You Support, Who Will Win The Electoral College on Tuesday and By What Margin?

Clinton >150
12
3%
Clinton 110-150
22
6%
Clinton 70-110
55
15%
Clinton 30 - 70
103
29%
Clinton 30 <
54
15%
Trump 30 <
74
21%
Trump 30 - 70
11
3%
Trump 70 -110
5
1%
Trump 110 - 150
3
1%
Trump >150
17
5%
 
Total votes : 356

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Postby Ebliania » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:07 am


RIGGED

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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:09 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:


I'm actually surprised loser.com was in the public domain all this time.

Seems to be registered in Canada :P
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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:09 am

The Portland Territory wrote:
St Salvador wrote:I'm betting Trump gets 10-18% of the minority vote. What do you all think?

More, given that he's beating Clinton amongst Cubans and Asians (I think)

Took me a moment to find this.

Asians? No. Not even close.

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Postby Khadgar » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:10 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
If I'm not mistaken they're legally required to let you vote if you're in line when the closing time hits.

Correct.


So effectively the lawsuit is "You followed the law!"?

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Khadgar wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Correct.


So effectively the lawsuit is "You followed the law!"?

Correct.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:11 am

Khadgar wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Correct.


So effectively the lawsuit is "You followed the law!"?

Presumably he's going to try and insist or prove or whatever that they continued to allow people to join the line after the closing time...to inexplicably grant benefit of the doubt because I haven't found an article on it yet.
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Postby Godular » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:12 am

Khadgar wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:Correct.


So effectively the lawsuit is "You followed the law!"?


How dare reality and common sense rig the numbers?!
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Postby Ebliania » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:12 am

Godular wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
So effectively the lawsuit is "You followed the law!"?


How dare reality and common sense rig the numbers?!

How dare people even voted for her!

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:13 am

Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:14 am

Godular wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
So effectively the lawsuit is "You followed the law!"?


How dare reality and common sense rig the numbers?!

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Postby Freefall11111 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:14 am

Salandriagado wrote:


I might be missing something here, but isn't closing time still in the future?

Early voting.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 am

Salandriagado wrote:


I might be missing something here, but isn't closing time still in the future?

Closing time
Open all the doors and let you out into the world
Closing time
Turn the lights up over every boy and every girl.
Closing time
One last call for alcohol so finish your whiskey or beer.
Closing time
You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.

I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
Take me home

Closing time
Time for you to go out to the places you will be from.
Closing time
This room won't be open 'til your brothers or you sisters come.
So gather up your jackets, and move it to the exits
I hope you have found a friend.

Closing time
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.

Yeah, I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
Take me home

Closing time
Time for you to go out to the places you will be from

I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
Take me home

I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
I know who I want to take me home.
Take me home

Closing time
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end

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Postby Cymrea » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 am

So, this is pretty awesome:

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If they could replicate this cut a few thousand times in early July....
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Postby New Werpland » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 am

The Portland Territory wrote:
Ebliania wrote:Cubans voted more for Obama back in 2012, I think it was like 50-48

This year should be much higher.

This year, according to the polls, Trump's doing very well amongst Cubans. In fact, he's doing the best amongst Republican candidates for minorities since the 80's

I guess they haven't heard this yet?

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 am

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You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 am

Ebliania wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:I dont see it as intentional at all, I just find it kinda funny

SIEG HILL HEE HEEEE! /s

Fixed that.
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Postby Carartia » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:15 am

Trump is edging Clinton in Ohio polls.
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Postby Guy » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 am

The Portland Territory wrote:
St Salvador wrote:I'm betting Trump gets 10-18% of the minority vote. What do you all think?

More, given that he's beating Clinton amongst Cubans and Asians (I think)

LOL

He might win Cubans, but I'll write you a cheque for $1000 if he wins Asians.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Godular wrote:
How dare reality and common sense rig the numbers?!

"Can you believe folks? Can you believe it..."

It is remarkable how fucking easy it is to do a "Trump". And it's not like doing a DeNiro where you're really just doing one line from one movie or Bush Sr where you're really doing Dana Carvey doing Bush, but it's doing Trump because it's so damn easy.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:16 am

Cymrea wrote:So, this is pretty awesome:

(Image)


If they could replicate this cut a few thousand times in early July....

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 am

Welp, I voted at around 7:30 this morning. The line wasn't too long and I was in and out within, roughly, an hour. Since Georgia uses electronic ballots, I double checked my choices to make sure they were correct. I even took part in a short exit poll being hawked by a guy just outside of the recreation center. The lady thanking us for voting told everyone as they handed back their voter chip cards that the exit poll guy wasn't affiliated with them and that we were free to ignore him. Given how often she said it, I'm guessing she's required by law to do so.

Anyway, I voted almost straight Dem. I, obviously, selected Sanders Clinton for the Presidency. I voted for Jim Barksdale for the Senate, although he's certain to lose. I voted for my incumbent congressman, Sanford Bishop. He's a Blue Dog Democrat and while that irritates me a little I certainly wasn't gonna vote for his opponent. He's a Republican. I voted against my State Senator, Joshua McKoon in favor of his opponent, Ben Anderson for simple partisanship's sake (Anderson's campaign has no online presence and seems to be nonexistent). I voted for my State rep, Debbie Buckner. Like most of the lower-level offices here (District Attorney of the Chattahoochee Judicial Circuit, Judge of the Probate Court, Clerk of the Superior Court, Tax Commissioner, Judge of the Municipal Court, Clerk of the Municipal Court, Coroner, Marshal, Solicitor-General of Muscogee County, and the Pine Mountain Soil and Water Conservation District Supervisor), she was the only candidate running for the position. I also voted for the Libertarian candidate rather than the Republican incumbent for Public Service Commissioner. There was no Dem running for the office.

As I wrote in the down-ballot thread a few weeks ago, there's a three-way race for the Sheriffship here (I, D, R). I voted for the Democratic candidate, Donna Tompkins for a couple of reasons. First of all, Tompkins managed to successfully sue the current sheriff, John T. Darr (I), for gender discrimination back in 2013 when he passed her and a fellow female officer up for a promotion to captain for a less-qualified man in the Sheriff's Department. Second of all, and more importantly to me, I voted for Tompkins because Darr decided wasted who knows how much in tax dollars on suing the city of Columbus (which has a consolidated city-county relationship with Muscogee County) for not providing his department with sufficient funds. Like, what the hell? How is the city supposed give you more money if you're wasting both your and their resources on an expensive lawsuit? It just makes no sense to me.

As for the ballot measures, there were four state-level constitutional amendments and one local ballot measure. I voted against Amendment 1 for three reasons. First and foremost, I generally oppose charter schools and increasing the influence that the private sector has on educating kids. While I agree that something should be done to reform Georgia's failing public schools, I don't like the idea of putting it in the hands of private entities whose first priority is running a profit and maintaining a healthy revenue stream. Second of all, the Opportunity School Districts this ballot measure supports creating puts the task of righting failed schools in the hands of managers who have been appointed by the governor. It doesn't allow local school boards a say in the decision and I've got a problem with that. At least according to way the companion bill is described in Ballotpedia, the Governor could appoint whoever he wants to run OSDs regardless of their qualifications. I don't want that. Third of all, the proposed OSD system is modeled, in part, off of Louisiana's Recovery School District program and Tennessee's Achievement School District program. At least as far as Louisiana's system is concerned, the total privatization of New Orleans' public schools is largely a failure. I don't want similar things to happen in Georgia. The fourth, bonus, reason for why I voted against Amendment 1 is that the amendment doesn't even guarantee that the OSD bill as it stands right now is what the General Assembly will eventually pass. All it does is allow the GA the ability to vote on it. For all I know, the GA could drastically alter the plan to whatever it want.

I voted against Amendment 2 for a couple of reasons, as well. Amendment 2 is a two-part measure. The most important part as far as I'm concerned calls for harsher penalties on people convicted for a variety of crimes involving sexual exploitation ("keeping a place of prostitution, pimping, pandering, pandering by compulsion, solicitation of sodomy, masturbation for hire, trafficking of persons for sexual servitude, or sexual exploitation of children"). To some people that might sound wonderful and great and on one level, I can agree with them. On the other hand, though, I don't agree with instituting harsher penalties on some of the specific crimes directly mentioned in the ballot question. The most prominent crime I didn't want to see harsher penalties for is prostitution. Aside from the fact that I don't think prostitution should be illegal, I don't really understand what is gained from instituting harsher penalties on prostitutes. Perhaps if they'd limited the harsher penalties to pimps and child sex traffickers then I could have voted for this amendment, but as it stands now? I just couldn't do it. The other part of the measure called for placing additional taxes on legal adult entertainment establishments (strip clubs, etc.) to help pay for a fund that tries to take care of and rehabilitate those that have been sexually exploited. I don't really have a problem with that and it's a shame that a decent idea was tacked onto a ballot measure that looks only to punish rather than rehabilitate those working in the illegal sex industry. The [url]arguments against[/url] the ballot measure in Ballotpedia were rather convincing, in fact. Doug Craig, who's running for Governor (2018) as a Libertarian, pointed out that there's no evidence of strip clubs leading to sex trafficking and that what the GA is trying to do is "find a type of business that people don’t like and and tax them for something that we would like to help". I agree with him. I also got into a big argument about my vote with my dad on the way back from the polling place and to school.

I voted against Amendment 3 mostly because I don't see a real reason to tear down the current Judicial Qualifications Commission and create a new one that's at the mercy of the General Assembly and the Governor's office. Better to just keep it as is. They don't seem to be doing a particularly poor job right now. DOn't fix what isn't broken and all that.

I voted for Amendment 4. The measure is pretty straight forward. It "dedicate[s] revenue from fireworks sales taxes to trauma care, fire protection services and public safety." Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

I also voted in favor of a local measure, pushed by the City Council and the Mayor, to "thaw" Columbus' 25-year long property tax freeze. The arguments in favor of the measure seemed pretty convincing and the city could use the extra tax revenue.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 am

Eol Sha wrote:Welp, I voted at around 7:30 this morning. The line wasn't too long and I was in and out within, roughly, an hour.


...The line was not long but you took about an hour...

I have *never* needed over 10 minutes to vote. The USA really seems to be quite.. backwards.. in this respect :s
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Postby Carartia » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:17 am

Guy wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:More, given that he's beating Clinton amongst Cubans and Asians (I think)

LOL

He might win Cubans, but I'll write you a cheque for $1000 if he wins Asians.

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