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Regardless of Who You Support, Who Will Win The Electoral College on Tuesday and By What Margin?

Clinton >150
12
3%
Clinton 110-150
22
6%
Clinton 70-110
55
15%
Clinton 30 - 70
103
29%
Clinton 30 <
54
15%
Trump 30 <
74
21%
Trump 30 - 70
11
3%
Trump 70 -110
5
1%
Trump 110 - 150
3
1%
Trump >150
17
5%
 
Total votes : 356

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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:58 am

Valrifell wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Another rape accuser gone silent. Hmmm. One does wonder.


There are other explanations other than "greedy liar" or "evil Clinton plant" you know. There's always the "fear for my life" explanation.

Maybe Clinton gave Trump a good reference on a political 'fixer'.
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Postby Camicon » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:58 am

Novus America wrote:
Camicon wrote:Not even remotely debatable, the facts are solidly on my side.

And that isn't what Corrian said.


It is what the post Corrian supported said.
And your "facts" are selection bias, leaving out 9-11.

9/11 wasn't domestic.

And Corrian simply said that Trump's supporters are probably more dangerous than any refugees coming over from Syria. Manuchira said they [Trump supporters] should be deported.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:58 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Galloism wrote:Come on guys.

I mean, yeah, right wing terrorism is a thing to be concerned about, much like islamic terrorism is, but let's not talk mass deportations and feed into the alt-right's hate/persecution machine, shall we?

Ya'll know better than that sort of nonsense.


Personally, I think we should deport Gallo, I mean, look at that flag, he supports the Empire. Such scum.


We should deport EVERYONE! No more terrorism, no more crime, no more poverty. No more political parties! :bow: No more economic stagnation because there will be no economy!

My idea is brilliant! Everyone can agree. We deport Muslims, Democrats, Republicans, Jews, men women, it gives everyone what they want.
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Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:00 am

Novus America wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Personally, I think we should deport Gallo, I mean, look at that flag, he supports the Empire. Such scum.


We should deport EVERYONE! No more terrorism, no more crime, no more poverty. No more political parties! :bow: No more economic stagnation because there will be no economy!

Brilliant!


Deport everyone... to the MOON!

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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:00 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Novus America wrote:
We should deport EVERYONE! No more terrorism, no more crime, no more poverty. No more political parties! :bow: No more economic stagnation because there will be no economy!

Brilliant!


Deport everyone... to the MOON!


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Postby Kravanica » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:01 am

Camicon wrote:
Kravanica wrote:Working class white people.

But hey, if guilt by belonging to a certain group is your thing then I could definitely use that against groups of Clinton supporters.

Let's not go down that road, mm'kay? It's inexcusable and despicable and the fact that you're even trying to justify it means you should be ashamed of yourself.

Trump caters to racists, bigots, and xenophobes;

Working, class white Americans is who he caters to. People who got screwed in 2008 and still haven't recovered. I have family and friends and neighbors who are Trump supporters and are legitimately good people. Quite honestly (and I don't care I warned or banned for saying this) you're behaving like a piece of shit. Your inability to understand why people have views different from yours is exactly what's wrong with American politics. I sincerely hope you never get politically involved in any capacity whatsoever.

not only that, he's been encouraging them to commit acts of violence, and has been trying to delegitimize the peaceful transfer of power that is the foundation of any democracy - Clinton wasn't that far off the mark when she called half of his base a basket of deplorables.

And yet Trump supporters haven't committed violence in any large capacity. In fact in many cases they're the ones being attacked and bullied. And Clinton is quite possible the most deplorable of anyone. And nasty. She's very nasty, you know.

Anyone who supports Trump, whether they are those things or not, should feel ashamed. Choosing to belong to a group as despicable as Trump's is something worthy of condemnation.

No, the only one that needs to feel ashamed of themselves is you.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:01 am

Lady Scylla wrote:
Novus America wrote:
We should deport EVERYONE! No more terrorism, no more crime, no more poverty. No more political parties! :bow: No more economic stagnation because there will be no economy!

Brilliant!


Deport everyone... to the MOON!


You are playing into Newt Gingrich's tiny hands.
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Postby Corrian » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:02 am

Kravanica wrote:
Corrian wrote:Honestly more of a terrorist threat than the refugees they hate so much.

This post is a fine example of why politics suck in this country. What a shitty thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Well, I'm not wrong. I'm not ashamed of shit.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:02 am

Camicon wrote:
Novus America wrote:
It is what the post Corrian supported said.
And your "facts" are selection bias, leaving out 9-11.

9/11 wasn't domestic.

And Corrian simply said that Trump's supporters are probably more dangerous than any refugees coming over from Syria. Manuchira said they [Trump supporters] should be deported.


Okay, but it is still making your definition of terrorism very selective to fit a narrative.

However Corrian was seemingly supporting what Manuchira said. Instead of cricizing it.
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Novus America represents my vision of an awesome Atompunk near future United States of America expanded to the entire North American continent, Guyana and the Philippines. The population would be around 700 million.
Think something like prewar Fallout, minus the bad stuff.

Politically I am an independent. I support what is good for the country, which means I cannot support either party.

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:02 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Deport everyone... to the MOON!


You are playing into Newt Gingrich's tiny hands.


That made me physically cringe.

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Postby IceBuddha » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:04 am

Arizona may enforce ballot collection law: Supreme Court order

So, in theory, what is the purpose of this law? We all know what the real purpose is (the other side has a stronger GOTV effort, let's attack that), but what is the justification this time?

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Postby Kravanica » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:04 am

Guy wrote:
Kravanica wrote:Working class white people.

But hey, if guilt by belonging to a certain group is your thing then I could definitely use that against groups of Clinton supporters.

Let's not go down that road, mm'kay? It's inexcusable and despicable and the fact that you're even trying to justify it means you should be ashamed of yourself.

Trump caters to the poorly-educated, not the poor.

Income is a poor determinant of voting once education is controlled for.

In any case, Trump doesn't just cater to Whites -- he caters to White nationalists and the David Dukes of the world.

& You should be ashamed of yourself for being a Trump apologist.

A huge segment of his base is working class white people. If you're denying this then you're denying reality

And has some extremists who support him. So does any other candidate. Guilt by association does not work.

I'm not defending him. I'm defending his supporters. Learn to read.
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Postby Valrifell » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:04 am

Novus America wrote:
Camicon wrote:9/11 wasn't domestic.

And Corrian simply said that Trump's supporters are probably more dangerous than any refugees coming over from Syria. Manuchira said they [Trump supporters] should be deported.


Okay, but it is still making your definition of terrorism very selective to fit a narrative.

However Corrian was seemingly supporting what Manuchira said. Instead of cricizing it.


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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:04 am

Kravanica wrote:
not only that, he's been encouraging them to commit acts of violence, and has been trying to delegitimize the peaceful transfer of power that is the foundation of any democracy - Clinton wasn't that far off the mark when she called half of his base a basket of deplorables.

And yet Trump supporters haven't committed violence in any large capacity. In fact in many cases they're the ones being attacked and bullied. And Clinton is quite possible the most deplorable of anyone. And nasty. She's very nasty, you know.


You can't seriously believe this. I mean, we do live in the same reality. There's no transdimensional internet lines that I'm aware of.
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Postby Kravanica » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:04 am

Corrian wrote:
Kravanica wrote:This post is a fine example of why politics suck in this country. What a shitty thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Well, I'm not wrong. I'm not ashamed of shit.

You're both wrong and ignorant. What a shame.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:06 am

Corrian wrote:
Kravanica wrote:This post is a fine example of why politics suck in this country. What a shitty thing to say. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Well, I'm not wrong. I'm not ashamed of shit.

I considered just issuing a "Calm down, everybody!" admonishment but you decided to double-down.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:09 am

Kravanica wrote:
Corrian wrote:Well, I'm not wrong. I'm not ashamed of shit.

You're both wrong and ignorant. What a shame.

You could have either let it go after your first "you should be ashamed" post or reported Corrian's post. You did neither.

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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:11 am

I'm voting for the only Republican in the race.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:12 am

Arlenton wrote:I'm voting for the only Republican in the race.

Clinton?
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Arlenton » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:12 am

Galloism wrote:
Arlenton wrote:I'm voting for the only Republican in the race.

Clinton?

No. What?

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Postby Guy » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:12 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Corrian wrote:Well, I'm not wrong. I'm not ashamed of shit.

I considered just issuing a "Calm down, everybody!" admonishment but you decided to double-down.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:13 am

Arlenton wrote:
Galloism wrote:Clinton?

No. What?

A little joke from those of us further left than Clinton.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Kravanica
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Postby Kravanica » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:13 am

Galloism wrote:
Kravanica wrote:And yet Trump supporters haven't committed violence in any large capacity. In fact in many cases they're the ones being attacked and bullied. And Clinton is quite possible the most deplorable of anyone. And nasty. She's very nasty, you know.


You can't seriously believe this. I mean, we do live in the same reality. There's no transdimensional internet lines that I'm aware of.

Oh, I do.
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Postby Kalama-Tee Islands » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:14 am

Jerzylvania wrote:This is a parody of Eric Idle's "Fuck Christmas" just in time for the election or the holidays.... whichever is over first.

Fuck Trump-Pence ~ (apologies to Eric Idle for "Fuck Christmas")

Fuck Trump-Pence!
They're a waste of fucking time
Fuck Donald

He's just out to get your dime
Fuck Christie and fuck Newtie
And fuck all that Breitbart blow
White racist big fat bastards
Raising Hell where e'er you go
And hateful men with tiny hands
You'd never want to know
Election fucking time again!

Fuck Trump-Pence
They're a fucking horror show
Fuck assholes
And all they fucking know
Fuck Comey
And fuck Rudolph
And his stupid fucking teeth
And fucking damn fear mongering
Everywhere you fucking go
Fuck twitter and fuck lying
It just drives us all insane
Republicans
Can fuck themselves
Election time again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UHXZ4j1FX4

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sat Nov 05, 2016 10:15 am

Kravanica wrote:And yet Trump supporters haven't committed violence in any large capacity. In fact in many cases they're the ones being attacked and bullied. And Clinton is quite possible the most deplorable of anyone. And nasty. She's very nasty, you know.


Well, you got your Trump-speak down.

Seriously, I read this in Trump's voice. Fucking flawless.
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