US Gen. Election Thread VI: You've Got E-Mail

[Lady Scylla]

I just realised, going by the Skyrim picture I posted.

Ulfric wants to build a wall to keep the Elves out. And Elisif is currently under scrutiny for keeping letters in a private chest at the foot of her bed.

[Ifreann]

(Image)

We are gonna build a wall, and make the Empire pay for it! We are going to make Skyrim great again!

[The Romulan Republic]

Hopefully, although if their's enough anger at Obama (and by proxy, Clinton) from the Cuban exile vote over improving relations with the Castro regime, that could be a problem.

Still, I have some optimism for Florida.

The Cuban American vote is no longer as monolithic as it used to be, a vast majority of them are actually now firm Democrats, particularly their youth.

Good news.

And of course, any Latino or immigrant would be voting against their self-interest to cast a vote for Trump.

Now, here's an interesting, and rather terrifying, thought:

The best realistic scenario for Trump, I said (going off fivethirtyeight), is a narrowest of all wins at 270.

However, I do recall at least one elector previously saying they would not vote for Trump no matter how their state voted. If it happened, depending on which state it occurs in, 270 might not be enough, or at least not enough to avoid going to the House (though that would likely result in a Trump win, it would be incredibly messy, and probably result in considerable civil unrest at this point).

Of course, any result that close is almost certainly going to be contested in court in any case, with demands for recounts along the lines of Florida 2000.

[Valrifell]

I just realised, going by the Skyrim picture I posted.

Ulfric wants to build a wall to keep the Elves out. And Elisif is currently under scrutiny for keeping letters in a private chest at the foot of her bed.

I'd also like to point out if we extrapolate this means Trump is going to assassinate Obama and start a civil war.

[The Romulan Republic]

I just realised, going by the Skyrim picture I posted.

Ulfric wants to build a wall to keep the Elves out. And Elisif is currently under scrutiny for keeping letters in a private chest at the foot of her bed.

I'd also like to point out if we extrapolate this means Trump is going to assassinate Obama and start a civil war.

Okay, now its not funny any more.

[Farnhamia]

I just realised, going by the Skyrim picture I posted.

Ulfric wants to build a wall to keep the Elves out. And Elisif is currently under scrutiny for keeping letters in a private chest at the foot of her bed.

I'd also like to point out if we extrapolate this means Trump is going to assassinate Obama and start a civil war.

Heh ... it has occurred to me that Trump could declare himself the winner anyway and hold an inauguration at Mar-a-Lago. He'd become an anti-President, like there were anti-popes once upon a time. That could be amusing.

[Lady Scylla]

I just realised, going by the Skyrim picture I posted.

Ulfric wants to build a wall to keep the Elves out. And Elisif is currently under scrutiny for keeping letters in a private chest at the foot of her bed.

I'd also like to point out if we extrapolate this means Trump is going to assassinate Obama and start a civil war.

With his voice!

[Lady Scylla]

I'd also like to point out if we extrapolate this means Trump is going to assassinate Obama and start a civil war.

Okay, now its not funny any more.

The interesting thing is that, after a few run throughs of the game, I stopped giving a fuck about the main story. I had more fun on Skyrim fucking off and frolicking in the woods to find random shit to do.

"Oh, hello citizen!"
"YOU have to help us! There's a civil war!"
"Erm. Sorry, no can do, gotta deliver these cheese wheels so I can buy a horse. Later and good luck!"

Maybe that's what I should do here, become the Dragonborn of Apathy and live in the woods.

[The Romulan Republic]

I'd also like to point out if we extrapolate this means Trump is going to assassinate Obama and start a civil war.

Heh ... it has occurred to me that Trump could declare himself the winner anyway and hold an inauguration at Mar-a-Lago. He'd become an anti-President, like there were anti-popes once upon a time. That could be amusing.

Not particularly amusing, since it would undermine the credibility of the US government and democracy, make us a laughing stock in the eyes of the world, and worst of all, serve as a possible rallying point for political violence.

[-Vogoland-]

We are a mere few days away from the possibility of having Donald Trump win the presidency of the United States of America and despite the delusional trumpeting of Hillary's inevitable victory in the corporate owned media it's been a remarkably tight race. Make no mistake, most Trump voters are protest voters. The system is so rotten in the eyes of millions of Americans that they would rather elect an orange testosterone injected gorilla into office. I suspect that were a stray cat offered up as an alternative instead we'd have a "ready for Mr. Whiskers" movement that would propel the feline into office.

Are the protest voters justified? Undeniably so, through Wikileaks, YouTube, Google, and common sense any red-blooded human being with an iq of 80 and above can survey and attest to the concrete evidence of Hillary Clinton's corruption. She colluded with media stooges and Democratic Party hacks to steal the election from Bernie Sanders. She is pro-war par excellence and has been endorsed by Nazi level criminals such as Henry Kissinger and John Negroponte. She is a lying snake that speaks against climate change to crowds but privately promotes fracking worldwide and states in a matter of fact manner that one must have public (bullshit) positions and private (true) positions. Her record in regards to economic policy was consistently pro-free trade until Sanders forced her to temporarily pivot away. She has privately stated that her dream is an open world with global free trade, a euphemistic description of a global system of exploitation where the rich ransack the majority with impunity and state protection if the masses ever attempt to fight back. I can literally go on and on (Do you have 80 hours to read?)

And yet many so-called leftists are demanding that we vote for her anyway. Liberals in Wall Street and Silicon Valley, celebrities, mainstream comedians, nearly all news journalists are trying to ram her down our throats. Social Justice Warriors of the regressive left are behaving like the useful idiots that they are and accusing anyone who opposes Clinton of being a sexist, they deny any reality and care only about the insignificant fact that the next corporate shill in chief will have a vagina between her legs. And tragically, respected left leaning intellectuals such as Robert Reich and Noam Chomsky are telling us to hold our noses and vote for her. The consensus is that despite her myriad of faults, Trump will be far worse. How accurate is this belief?

Let's go through the major points of this position:

1) Trump is a vile racist- correct, however Hillary Clinton is a covert racist that exploits the black and Hispanic vote every few years. The Clintons have existentially helped lower the living standards of minority communities through their policies of "triangulation" i.e. introducing draconian right wing reforms of the criminal justice, welfare, and economic systems that exploded the prison population, robbed many struggling minority families of what little welfare they received, and stole opportunity and job security from under their noses as nonwhites in the rust belt were particularly hit hard by free trade policy. The Clinton Foundation is largely a slush fund which exploits the suffering of mostly nonwhite people worldwide, much of the money that went to the foundation to relieve the victims of earthquakes in Haiti ended up enriching the Clinton's and their corporate pals. in other words, a small group of privileged white people deliberately exploited and stole from the struggling nation of Haiti, but she's not racist right? In terms of racism, Hillary is the more clever and dangerous racist that manipulates minorities into supporting their own deterioration.

2) Trump denies climate change- does acknowledging it and nevertheless continuing to promote fracking make our situation better in anyway? I would argue that Hillary is more dangerous since her outward appearance of care would convince enough people that eventually something will be done to mitigate the effects of climate change and what that really means is people will go to sleep. A frog in a boiling pot of water will leap out, a frog in a pot slowly being heated will sit there complacently and die. Trump's asinine position would force radical action on part of the common citizenry to stop our regime from destroying our climate, that radical action might just be the leap out of the pot that ends up saving us.

3) Trump is bad for the economy- Hilary is worse, for all his faults, Trump's greatest strength is articulating the struggles of the working and middle classes under the weight of Free Trade policy. Despite her temporary pivot away from TPP, we all know Hillary will work to pass it after she is elected. Her emails bring up her lack of ability to change or learn from her mistakes, and judging by her 30 year record she will continue to faithfully serve her corporate owners while enriching herself. When the next financial crisis inevitably hits us and millions more Americans are thrown into poverty, she will do what she can to make sure the rich are unaffected as this is the MO of our oligarchy. Now all this can be said of Trump but with him there is at least an admittance that free trade policy is a disaster and the people will pressure him to make good on his promise to end it and when he fails to deliver we will have a revolutionary situation. Broken promises and expectations are the prerequisites for revolution. With Hillary, there will be continued compliance as is usually the case when people believe a Liberal is in the White House, with Trump we are closer to revolution than at any other point in our history since 1776.

4) Trump can start a nuclear war- Hillary is pushing for escalating conflict with Russia before she's even been elected. Russia is a strong power that possesses one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and we have been aggressively moving closer to its borders with military bases surrounding the entire country. Hillary's proposal to escalate tensions and set up further unnecessarily brings the prospect of nuclear war and an end to civilization right at our doorstep, this even though an absolute majority of our people absolutely oppose a renewed Cold War that can turn hot at any moment. For whatever reason, he came to his position, Trump's policy of working together with Russia especially in the Middle East, concentrating on taking out ISIS, and abandoning our pseudo-democracy building adventures abroad objectively cools our geopolitical tensions and takes us away from the precipice of nuclear Armageddon. Trump is the clear winner as far as foreign policy is concerned.

5) Trump is sexist- correct and so is Hillary if you plan to sue her husband for sexual harassment. The idea of a woman making sure that her husband's rape victims are silenced, intimidated, and/or slandered becoming a champion for women and women's rights is absurd and serves only to arouse disgust at this point. Women are also earning significantly less than their male counterparts in the CLINTON foundation. Way to practice what you preach. Both candidates are terrible in this regard. Ask the women being raped and assaulted by ragtag terror groups in the middle eastern countries that Clinton helped destabilize how much of a champion for women's rights she is.

Trump is an incompetent blowhard and as such he is a Molotov cocktail that will sow disruption in the regime. The government will be turning against itself, the corporate media will be hounded by the very monster it created, Wall Street will tank, and if Trump tries to pass any of his insane policies he will invoke the wrath of the American people. Trying to deport millions of Hispanics, enforcing nationwide stop and frisk policy, trying to ban abortion, banning all Muslims from entering the country, totally ignoring climate change etc etc all these actions would light a fire under our collective ass. Complacency would become impossible and the developing situation will demand the creation of an actual left wing movement with the objective of totally replacing the existing system of government. Reform from within is an old song and dance that has duped us time and time again. It's time we stopped being complacent fools.

Do not vote for Hillary Clinton. Be brave and vote Green, if the Green Party receives 5% the left gains more awareness and federal funding. That's a small victory against the system but a real victory nevertheless. if Trump wins this election he'll run the government so incompetently that a revolutionary movement is bound to follow. And it is only in a revolutionary situation that a new left wing movement can flourish and succeed.

To hell with our system, to hell with our complacency, to hell with Hillary.

[Planita]

And in with the Donald.

I'll rather not

[Farnhamia]

We are a mere few days away from the possibility of having Donald Trump win the presidency of the United States of America and despite the delusional trumpeting of Hillary's inevitable victory in the corporate owned media it's been a remarkably tight race. Make no mistake, most Trump voters are protest voters. The system is so rotten in the eyes of millions of Americans that they would rather elect an orange testosterone injected gorilla into office. I suspect that were a stray cat offered up as an alternative instead we'd have a "ready for Mr. Whiskers" movement that would propel the feline into office.

Are the protest voters justified? Undeniably so, through Wikileaks, YouTube, Google, and common sense any red-blooded human being with an iq of 80 and above can survey and attest to the concrete evidence of Hillary Clinton's corruption. She colluded with media stooges and Democratic Party hacks to steal the election from Bernie Sanders. She is pro-war par excellence and has been endorsed by Nazi level criminals such as Henry Kissinger and John Negroponte. She is a lying snake that speaks against climate change to crowds but privately promotes fracking worldwide and states in a matter of fact manner that one must have public (bullshit) positions and private (true) positions. Her record in regards to economic policy was consistently pro-free trade until Sanders forced her to temporarily pivot away. She has privately stated that her dream is an open world with global free trade, a euphemistic description of a global system of exploitation where the rich ransack the majority with impunity and state protection if the masses ever attempt to fight back. I can literally go on and on (Do you have 80 hours to read?)

And yet many so-called leftists are demanding that we vote for her anyway. Liberals in Wall Street and Silicon Valley, celebrities, mainstream comedians, nearly all news journalists are trying to ram her down our throats. Social Justice Warriors of the regressive left are behaving like the useful idiots that they are and accusing anyone who opposes Clinton of being a sexist, they deny any reality and care only about the insignificant fact that the next corporate shill in chief will have a vagina between her legs. And tragically, respected left leaning intellectuals such as Robert Reich and Noam Chomsky are telling us to hold our noses and vote for her. The consensus is that despite her myriad of faults, Trump will be far worse. How accurate is this belief?

Let's go through the major points of this position:

1) Trump is a vile racist- correct, however Hillary Clinton is a covert racist that exploits the black and Hispanic vote every few years. The Clintons have existentially helped lower the living standards of minority communities through their policies of "triangulation" i.e. introducing draconian right wing reforms of the criminal justice, welfare, and economic systems that exploded the prison population, robbed many struggling minority families of what little welfare they received, and stole opportunity and job security from under their noses as nonwhites in the rust belt were particularly hit hard by free trade policy. The Clinton Foundation is largely a slush fund which exploits the suffering of mostly nonwhite people worldwide, much of the money that went to the foundation to relieve the victims of earthquakes in Haiti ended up enriching the Clinton's and their corporate pals. in other words, a small group of privileged white people deliberately exploited and stole from the struggling nation of Haiti, but she's not racist right? In terms of racism, Hillary is the more clever and dangerous racist that manipulates minorities into supporting their own deterioration.

2) Trump denies climate change- does acknowledging it and nevertheless continuing to promote fracking make our situation better in anyway? I would argue that Hillary is more dangerous since her outward appearance of care would convince enough people that eventually something will be done to mitigate the effects of climate change and what that really means is people will go to sleep. A frog in a boiling pot of water will leap out, a frog in a pot slowly being heated will sit there complacently and die. Trump's asinine position would force radical action on part of the common citizenry to stop our regime from destroying our climate, that radical action might just be the leap out of the pot that ends up saving us.

3) Trump is bad for the economy- Hilary is worse, for all his faults, Trump's greatest strength is articulating the struggles of the working and middle classes under the weight of Free Trade policy. Despite her temporary pivot away from TPP, we all know Hillary will work to pass it after she is elected. Her emails bring up her lack of ability to change or learn from her mistakes, and judging by her 30 year record she will continue to faithfully serve her corporate owners while enriching herself. When the next financial crisis inevitably hits us and millions more Americans are thrown into poverty, she will do what she can to make sure the rich are unaffected as this is the MO of our oligarchy. Now all this can be said of Trump but with him there is at least an admittance that free trade policy is a disaster and the people will pressure him to make good on his promise to end it and when he fails to deliver we will have a revolutionary situation. Broken promises and expectations are the prerequisites for revolution. With Hillary, there will be continued compliance as is usually the case when people believe a Liberal is in the White House, with Trump we are closer to revolution than at any other point in our history since 1776.

4) Trump can start a nuclear war- Hillary is pushing for escalating conflict with Russia before she's even been elected. Russia is a strong power that possesses one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and we have been aggressively moving closer to its borders with military bases surrounding the entire country. Hillary's proposal to escalate tensions and set up further unnecessarily brings the prospect of nuclear war and an end to civilization right at our doorstep, this even though an absolute majority of our people absolutely oppose a renewed Cold War that can turn hot at any moment. For whatever reason, he came to his position, Trump's policy of working together with Russia especially in the Middle East, concentrating on taking out ISIS, and abandoning our pseudo-democracy building adventures abroad objectively cools our geopolitical tensions and takes us away from the precipice of nuclear Armageddon. Trump is the clear winner as far as foreign policy is concerned.

5) Trump is sexist- correct and so is Hillary if you plan to sue her husband for sexual harassment. The idea of a woman making sure that her husband's rape victims are silenced, intimidated, and/or slandered becoming a champion for women and women's rights is absurd and serves only to arouse disgust at this point. Women are also earning significantly less than their male counterparts in the CLINTON foundation. Way to practice what you preach. Both candidates are terrible in this regard. Ask the women being raped and assaulted by ragtag terror groups in the middle eastern countries that Clinton helped destabilize how much of a champion for women's rights she is.

Trump is an incompetent blowhard and as such he is a Molotov cocktail that will sow disruption in the regime. The government will be turning against itself, the corporate media will be hounded by the very monster it created, Wall Street will tank, and if Trump tries to pass any of his insane policies he will invoke the wrath of the American people. Trying to deport millions of Hispanics, enforcing nationwide stop and frisk policy, trying to ban abortion, banning all Muslims from entering the country, totally ignoring climate change etc etc all these actions would light a fire under our collective ass. Complacency would become impossible and the developing situation will demand the creation of an actual left wing movement with the objective of totally replacing the existing system of government. Reform from within is an old song and dance that has duped us time and time again. It's time we stopped being complacent fools.

Do not vote for Hillary Clinton. Be brave and vote Green, if the Green Party receives 5% the left gains more awareness and federal funding. That's a small victory against the system but a real victory nevertheless. if Trump wins this election he'll run the government so incompetently that a revolutionary movement is bound to follow. And it is only in a revolutionary situation that a new left wing movement can flourish and succeed.

To hell with our system, to hell with our complacency, to hell with Hillary.

Does not need its own thread.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So about the Trump rape thing that just got dismissed. How exactly did Trump supporters intimidate her if she's an anonymous Jane Doe?

[Lady Scylla]

So about the Trump rape thing that just got dismissed. How exactly did Trump supporters intimidate her if she's an anonymous Jane Doe?

She was going to have a press conference. At that point her identity isn't exactly secret.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

So about the Trump rape thing that just got dismissed. How exactly did Trump supporters intimidate her if she's an anonymous Jane Doe?

I can think of a few different ways, the simplest and most obvious of which would be to send the threats to her legal representatives.

[Hittanryan]

We are a mere few days away from the possibility of having Donald Trump win the presidency of the United States of America and despite the delusional trumpeting of Hillary's inevitable victory in the corporate owned media it's been a remarkably tight race. Make no mistake, most Trump voters are protest voters. The system is so rotten in the eyes of millions of Americans that they would rather elect an orange testosterone injected gorilla into office. I suspect that were a stray cat offered up as an alternative instead we'd have a "ready for Mr. Whiskers" movement that would propel the feline into office.

Are the protest voters justified? Undeniably so, through Wikileaks, YouTube, Google, and common sense any red-blooded human being with an iq of 80 and above can survey and attest to the concrete evidence of Hillary Clinton's corruption. She colluded with media stooges and Democratic Party hacks to steal the election from Bernie Sanders. She is pro-war par excellence and has been endorsed by Nazi level criminals such as Henry Kissinger and John Negroponte. She is a lying snake that speaks against climate change to crowds but privately promotes fracking worldwide and states in a matter of fact manner that one must have public (bullshit) positions and private (true) positions. Her record in regards to economic policy was consistently pro-free trade until Sanders forced her to temporarily pivot away. She has privately stated that her dream is an open world with global free trade, a euphemistic description of a global system of exploitation where the rich ransack the majority with impunity and state protection if the masses ever attempt to fight back. I can literally go on and on (Do you have 80 hours to read?)

And yet many so-called leftists are demanding that we vote for her anyway. Liberals in Wall Street and Silicon Valley, celebrities, mainstream comedians, nearly all news journalists are trying to ram her down our throats. Social Justice Warriors of the regressive left are behaving like the useful idiots that they are and accusing anyone who opposes Clinton of being a sexist, they deny any reality and care only about the insignificant fact that the next corporate shill in chief will have a vagina between her legs. And tragically, respected left leaning intellectuals such as Robert Reich and Noam Chomsky are telling us to hold our noses and vote for her. The consensus is that despite her myriad of faults, Trump will be far worse. How accurate is this belief?

Let's go through the major points of this position:

1) Trump is a vile racist- correct, however Hillary Clinton is a covert racist that exploits the black and Hispanic vote every few years. The Clintons have existentially helped lower the living standards of minority communities through their policies of "triangulation" i.e. introducing draconian right wing reforms of the criminal justice, welfare, and economic systems that exploded the prison population, robbed many struggling minority families of what little welfare they received, and stole opportunity and job security from under their noses as nonwhites in the rust belt were particularly hit hard by free trade policy. The Clinton Foundation is largely a slush fund which exploits the suffering of mostly nonwhite people worldwide, much of the money that went to the foundation to relieve the victims of earthquakes in Haiti ended up enriching the Clinton's and their corporate pals. in other words, a small group of privileged white people deliberately exploited and stole from the struggling nation of Haiti, but she's not racist right? In terms of racism, Hillary is the more clever and dangerous racist that manipulates minorities into supporting their own deterioration.

2) Trump denies climate change- does acknowledging it and nevertheless continuing to promote fracking make our situation better in anyway? I would argue that Hillary is more dangerous since her outward appearance of care would convince enough people that eventually something will be done to mitigate the effects of climate change and what that really means is people will go to sleep. A frog in a boiling pot of water will leap out, a frog in a pot slowly being heated will sit there complacently and die. Trump's asinine position would force radical action on part of the common citizenry to stop our regime from destroying our climate, that radical action might just be the leap out of the pot that ends up saving us.

3) Trump is bad for the economy- Hilary is worse, for all his faults, Trump's greatest strength is articulating the struggles of the working and middle classes under the weight of Free Trade policy. Despite her temporary pivot away from TPP, we all know Hillary will work to pass it after she is elected. Her emails bring up her lack of ability to change or learn from her mistakes, and judging by her 30 year record she will continue to faithfully serve her corporate owners while enriching herself. When the next financial crisis inevitably hits us and millions more Americans are thrown into poverty, she will do what she can to make sure the rich are unaffected as this is the MO of our oligarchy. Now all this can be said of Trump but with him there is at least an admittance that free trade policy is a disaster and the people will pressure him to make good on his promise to end it and when he fails to deliver we will have a revolutionary situation. Broken promises and expectations are the prerequisites for revolution. With Hillary, there will be continued compliance as is usually the case when people believe a Liberal is in the White House, with Trump we are closer to revolution than at any other point in our history since 1776.

4) Trump can start a nuclear war- Hillary is pushing for escalating conflict with Russia before she's even been elected. Russia is a strong power that possesses one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and we have been aggressively moving closer to its borders with military bases surrounding the entire country. Hillary's proposal to escalate tensions and set up further unnecessarily brings the prospect of nuclear war and an end to civilization right at our doorstep, this even though an absolute majority of our people absolutely oppose a renewed Cold War that can turn hot at any moment. For whatever reason, he came to his position, Trump's policy of working together with Russia especially in the Middle East, concentrating on taking out ISIS, and abandoning our pseudo-democracy building adventures abroad objectively cools our geopolitical tensions and takes us away from the precipice of nuclear Armageddon. Trump is the clear winner as far as foreign policy is concerned.

5) Trump is sexist- correct and so is Hillary if you plan to sue her husband for sexual harassment. The idea of a woman making sure that her husband's rape victims are silenced, intimidated, and/or slandered becoming a champion for women and women's rights is absurd and serves only to arouse disgust at this point. Women are also earning significantly less than their male counterparts in the CLINTON foundation. Way to practice what you preach. Both candidates are terrible in this regard. Ask the women being raped and assaulted by ragtag terror groups in the middle eastern countries that Clinton helped destabilize how much of a champion for women's rights she is.

Trump is an incompetent blowhard and as such he is a Molotov cocktail that will sow disruption in the regime. The government will be turning against itself, the corporate media will be hounded by the very monster it created, Wall Street will tank, and if Trump tries to pass any of his insane policies he will invoke the wrath of the American people. Trying to deport millions of Hispanics, enforcing nationwide stop and frisk policy, trying to ban abortion, banning all Muslims from entering the country, totally ignoring climate change etc etc all these actions would light a fire under our collective ass. Complacency would become impossible and the developing situation will demand the creation of an actual left wing movement with the objective of totally replacing the existing system of government. Reform from within is an old song and dance that has duped us time and time again. It's time we stopped being complacent fools.

Do not vote for Hillary Clinton. Be brave and vote Green, if the Green Party receives 5% the left gains more awareness and federal funding. That's a small victory against the system but a real victory nevertheless. if Trump wins this election he'll run the government so incompetently that a revolutionary movement is bound to follow. And it is only in a revolutionary situation that a new left wing movement can flourish and succeed.

To hell with our system, to hell with our complacency, to hell with Hillary.

Does not need its own thread.

Did not need the many pixels it's wasting either.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So about the Trump rape thing that just got dismissed. How exactly did Trump supporters intimidate her if she's an anonymous Jane Doe?

I can think of a few different ways, the simplest and most obvious of which would be to send the threats to her legal representatives.

That could be a way yeah, it was just a thought I had and got kinda confused.

[Thermodolia]

Heh ... it has occurred to me that Trump could declare himself the winner anyway and hold an inauguration at Mar-a-Lago. He'd become an anti-President, like there were anti-popes once upon a time. That could be amusing.

Not particularly amusing, since it would undermine the credibility of the US government and democracy, make us a laughing stock in the eyes of the world, and worst of all, serve as a possible rallying point for political violence.

Time for the US Army to do its thing

[Lady Scylla]

We are a mere few days away from the possibility of having Donald Trump win the presidency of the United States of America and despite the delusional trumpeting of Hillary's inevitable victory in the corporate owned media it's been a remarkably tight race. Make no mistake,

I don't know if there's some stereotypical association that my memory links with the phrase 'Make no mistake', but once it's invoked, all I read is blablabla like I've found someone's blog and I'm "reading" it only because I'm bored and have nothing better to do with my time at the moment.

[Zurkerx]

I see Trump has a chance somehow. Do you all think he can take New Hampshire with the latest polling showing him a lead there? Or in other States?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I can think of a few different ways, the simplest and most obvious of which would be to send the threats to her legal representatives.

That could be a way yeah, it was just a thought I had and got kinda confused.

Fair enough. One could also contact the venue where it's being held, or if they're confident in their ability to remain untraced, the police themselves.

[Liriena]

The DNC has told the FBI that there's evidence of their headquarters being bugged.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The DNC has told the FBI that there's evidence of their headquarters being bugged.

A single signal. Not much to go on, but still disconcerting.

[The Romulan Republic]

We are a mere few days away from the possibility of having Donald Trump win the presidency of the United States of America and despite the delusional trumpeting of Hillary's inevitable victory in the corporate owned media it's been a remarkably tight race. Make no mistake, most Trump voters are protest voters. The system is so rotten in the eyes of millions of Americans that they would rather elect an orange testosterone injected gorilla into office. I suspect that were a stray cat offered up as an alternative instead we'd have a "ready for Mr. Whiskers" movement that would propel the feline into office.

Are the protest voters justified? Undeniably so, through Wikileaks, YouTube, Google, and common sense any red-blooded human being with an iq of 80 and above can survey and attest to the concrete evidence of Hillary Clinton's corruption. She colluded with media stooges and Democratic Party hacks to steal the election from Bernie Sanders. She is pro-war par excellence and has been endorsed by Nazi level criminals such as Henry Kissinger and John Negroponte. She is a lying snake that speaks against climate change to crowds but privately promotes fracking worldwide and states in a matter of fact manner that one must have public (bullshit) positions and private (true) positions. Her record in regards to economic policy was consistently pro-free trade until Sanders forced her to temporarily pivot away. She has privately stated that her dream is an open world with global free trade, a euphemistic description of a global system of exploitation where the rich ransack the majority with impunity and state protection if the masses ever attempt to fight back. I can literally go on and on (Do you have 80 hours to read?)

And yet many so-called leftists are demanding that we vote for her anyway. Liberals in Wall Street and Silicon Valley, celebrities, mainstream comedians, nearly all news journalists are trying to ram her down our throats. Social Justice Warriors of the regressive left are behaving like the useful idiots that they are and accusing anyone who opposes Clinton of being a sexist, they deny any reality and care only about the insignificant fact that the next corporate shill in chief will have a vagina between her legs. And tragically, respected left leaning intellectuals such as Robert Reich and Noam Chomsky are telling us to hold our noses and vote for her. The consensus is that despite her myriad of faults, Trump will be far worse. How accurate is this belief?

Let's go through the major points of this position:

1) Trump is a vile racist- correct, however Hillary Clinton is a covert racist that exploits the black and Hispanic vote every few years. The Clintons have existentially helped lower the living standards of minority communities through their policies of "triangulation" i.e. introducing draconian right wing reforms of the criminal justice, welfare, and economic systems that exploded the prison population, robbed many struggling minority families of what little welfare they received, and stole opportunity and job security from under their noses as nonwhites in the rust belt were particularly hit hard by free trade policy. The Clinton Foundation is largely a slush fund which exploits the suffering of mostly nonwhite people worldwide, much of the money that went to the foundation to relieve the victims of earthquakes in Haiti ended up enriching the Clinton's and their corporate pals. in other words, a small group of privileged white people deliberately exploited and stole from the struggling nation of Haiti, but she's not racist right? In terms of racism, Hillary is the more clever and dangerous racist that manipulates minorities into supporting their own deterioration.

2) Trump denies climate change- does acknowledging it and nevertheless continuing to promote fracking make our situation better in anyway? I would argue that Hillary is more dangerous since her outward appearance of care would convince enough people that eventually something will be done to mitigate the effects of climate change and what that really means is people will go to sleep. A frog in a boiling pot of water will leap out, a frog in a pot slowly being heated will sit there complacently and die. Trump's asinine position would force radical action on part of the common citizenry to stop our regime from destroying our climate, that radical action might just be the leap out of the pot that ends up saving us.

3) Trump is bad for the economy- Hilary is worse, for all his faults, Trump's greatest strength is articulating the struggles of the working and middle classes under the weight of Free Trade policy. Despite her temporary pivot away from TPP, we all know Hillary will work to pass it after she is elected. Her emails bring up her lack of ability to change or learn from her mistakes, and judging by her 30 year record she will continue to faithfully serve her corporate owners while enriching herself. When the next financial crisis inevitably hits us and millions more Americans are thrown into poverty, she will do what she can to make sure the rich are unaffected as this is the MO of our oligarchy. Now all this can be said of Trump but with him there is at least an admittance that free trade policy is a disaster and the people will pressure him to make good on his promise to end it and when he fails to deliver we will have a revolutionary situation. Broken promises and expectations are the prerequisites for revolution. With Hillary, there will be continued compliance as is usually the case when people believe a Liberal is in the White House, with Trump we are closer to revolution than at any other point in our history since 1776.

4) Trump can start a nuclear war- Hillary is pushing for escalating conflict with Russia before she's even been elected. Russia is a strong power that possesses one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world and we have been aggressively moving closer to its borders with military bases surrounding the entire country. Hillary's proposal to escalate tensions and set up further unnecessarily brings the prospect of nuclear war and an end to civilization right at our doorstep, this even though an absolute majority of our people absolutely oppose a renewed Cold War that can turn hot at any moment. For whatever reason, he came to his position, Trump's policy of working together with Russia especially in the Middle East, concentrating on taking out ISIS, and abandoning our pseudo-democracy building adventures abroad objectively cools our geopolitical tensions and takes us away from the precipice of nuclear Armageddon. Trump is the clear winner as far as foreign policy is concerned.

5) Trump is sexist- correct and so is Hillary if you plan to sue her husband for sexual harassment. The idea of a woman making sure that her husband's rape victims are silenced, intimidated, and/or slandered becoming a champion for women and women's rights is absurd and serves only to arouse disgust at this point. Women are also earning significantly less than their male counterparts in the CLINTON foundation. Way to practice what you preach. Both candidates are terrible in this regard. Ask the women being raped and assaulted by ragtag terror groups in the middle eastern countries that Clinton helped destabilize how much of a champion for women's rights she is.

Trump is an incompetent blowhard and as such he is a Molotov cocktail that will sow disruption in the regime. The government will be turning against itself, the corporate media will be hounded by the very monster it created, Wall Street will tank, and if Trump tries to pass any of his insane policies he will invoke the wrath of the American people. Trying to deport millions of Hispanics, enforcing nationwide stop and frisk policy, trying to ban abortion, banning all Muslims from entering the country, totally ignoring climate change etc etc all these actions would light a fire under our collective ass. Complacency would become impossible and the developing situation will demand the creation of an actual left wing movement with the objective of totally replacing the existing system of government. Reform from within is an old song and dance that has duped us time and time again. It's time we stopped being complacent fools.

Do not vote for Hillary Clinton. Be brave and vote Green, if the Green Party receives 5% the left gains more awareness and federal funding. That's a small victory against the system but a real victory nevertheless. if Trump wins this election he'll run the government so incompetently that a revolutionary movement is bound to follow. And it is only in a revolutionary situation that a new left wing movement can flourish and succeed.

To hell with our system, to hell with our complacency, to hell with Hillary.

Its funny how, despite your claims of being a Green supporter, so much of your rhetoric echoes that of the Alt. Right (your whinging about "SJWs", for example).

And that you openly admit that you are hoping to sabotage the country because you believe that if the people are hurt badly enough, they'll see you were right and vote the way you want next time, is callous and manipulative bordering on sociopathic. Likewise you're admission that you are hoping to vote for a set of circumstances that will trigger a revolution. You treat the liberty and lives of your fellow human beings like pieces in a game, to be casually sacrificed for some hypothetical future victory.

I'm sure that 5% for the Greens would be a real comfort to the women, liberals, journalists, and minorities being threatened and degraded by their President as their civil liberties are violated, after people like you threw them under the bus for the sake of your protest vote.

As for getting the Greens federal election funding... please. Donald won't even pay his contractors.

[Farnhamia]

The DNC has told the FBI that there's evidence of their headquarters being bugged.

A single signal. Not much to go on, but still disconcerting.

And the FBI says, "Sorry, we can't possibly comment on that this close to the election. Come back in a week."