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Postby Ogrien » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:51 pm

Jebal Shammar wrote:As a place of historic significance, it should remain standing and be turned into some kind of museum.


Why does the coincidence of Hiter's birth grant this place historic significance?

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Postby Skappola » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:57 pm

Huh, apparently we have open neo-nazis on NSG now. Could've sworn even claiming to be a nazi would get you banned here.

Purely for its historical value, I believe the house should stand, regardless of its status as a pilgrimage site for bigots. We don't tear down Jefferson Davis' house nor the former house of Congress of the Confederacy, nor do we demolish Stalin's Sochi palace nor Mussolini's villa. We allow the Nero's Domus Aurea and Genghis Khan's Delüün Boldog to be maintained for future generations. Why should we single out the house of Hitler to be demolished when we allow the birthplaces of so many other tyrants to be maintained in pristine condition? Should all residences of tyrants be demolished, history and all, so as to set an example, or to prevent bigots from rallying around them? Demolishing this structure will do nothing to suppress the ideology of racism and bigotry; it will merely destroy an integral piece of history in an attempt to put our less glamorous past out of sight and out of mind. This house should stand to serve as a reminder of the horrors of bigotry for future generations, just as the Auschwitz concentration camp does. If some bigots rally around its site, then so be it- they'd hold their views just as well were the entire house burned down.
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Postby Dalvius » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:58 pm

Skappola wrote:Huh, apparently we have open neo-nazis on NSG now. Could've sworn even claiming to be a nazi would get you banned here.

Purely for its historical value, I believe the house should stand, regardless of its status as a pilgrimage site for bigots. We don't tear down Jefferson Davis' house nor the former house of Congress of the Confederacy, nor do we demolish Stalin's Sochi palace nor Mussolini's villa. We allow the Nero's Domus Aurea and Genghis Khan's Delüün Boldog to be maintained for future generations. Why should we single out the house of Hitler to be demolished when we allow the birthplaces of so many other tyrants to be maintained in pristine condition? Should all residences of tyrants be demolished, history and all, so as to set an example, or to prevent bigots from rallying around them? Demolishing this structure will do nothing to suppress the ideology of racism and bigotry, it will merely destroy an integral piece of history in an attempt to put our less glamorous past out of sight and out of mind. This house should stand to serve as a reminder of the horrors of bigotry for future generations, just as the Auschwitz concentration camp does. If some bigots rally around its site, then so be it- they'd hold their views just as well were the entire house burned down.

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Postby Dahon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:38 pm

Napkiraly wrote:It shouldn't be torn down. It should be turned into a nightclub catering to Jews, Roma, Slavs and LGBTQ people.


Yes. :clap: :rofl: :hug:
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Postby Pope Joan » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:41 pm

Hey, this fits in with the thread about 3 dead in an LA shooting.

An Austrian survivor of WWII recalls "Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily."

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Postby Freefall11111 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:44 pm

Pope Joan wrote:Hey, this fits in with the thread about 3 dead in an LA shooting.

An Austrian survivor of WWII recalls "Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily."

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Fake. The Nazis seriously loosened gun laws.

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Postby Dahon » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:53 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:Dodes Hitler's old house really have any cultural or historical significance? I mean, it's just an old building that's kind of sitting there. Might as well pave over it and make it into something that benefits the people.


Or turn it into something that mocks everything that Hitler and his ilk and his fans and acolytes and wannabes have done while helping as many people get on with their lives as possible.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:37 pm

Dahon wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:It shouldn't be torn down. It should be turned into a nightclub catering to Jews, Roma, Slavs and LGBTQ people.


Yes. :clap: :rofl: :hug:


You want to give pilgrim Nazi's a target at the end of their pilgrimage?

.... I need to draw this now. Nazi Pilgrims. With Buckle hats.

Why is this concept so weird and amusing?
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Postby Novus America » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:25 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:Hey, this fits in with the thread about 3 dead in an LA shooting.

An Austrian survivor of WWII recalls "Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily."

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Fake. The Nazis seriously loosened gun laws.


Only for certain people. Nazi Germany did not have equality under the law, different laws applied to different groups of people.
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Postby Erutenia » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:30 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:Apparently the Austrian authorities intend to demolish our beloved Führer's home in Austria.

gut... yeah, i am late.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:15 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The Hitlers were renting a room on the top floor when little Addie was born. This place is an inn.


Usually, people rent rooms in Inns for a few days while on vacation or business. Anyone who rents it to live there for a few months must have money.

So his family just rented the third floor.

A room on the third floor. It is weird how you are trying to make the Hitlers seem rich.
So turn tear down the third floor. In reality, the owner could make plenty renting the third floor.

The owner is making a lot of money from it. The Austrian government is renting the whole place out, all the time, to keep worshipful Nazis like the OP out.


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Isyrannaea wrote:Make it into a gay feminist liberal gypsy Russian synagogue.


Or.. you know.. leave it as is and use it as a teaching aid to future generations on field trips.

Fucking Christ... :roll:

"This is where Hitler was born. Then decades later, away somewhere else, he did lots of bad things. Any questions?"
"Why are we here and not Auschwitz or something?"
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Postby Minzerland II » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:20 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Or.. you know.. leave it as is and use it as a teaching aid to future generations on field trips.

Fucking Christ... :roll:

"This is where Hitler was born. Then decades later, away somewhere else, he did lots of bad things. Any questions?"
"Why are we here and not Auschwitz or something?"

Then we must ask ourselves: Why build museums to visit when you can visit the scene itself?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:24 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Ifreann wrote:"This is where Hitler was born. Then decades later, away somewhere else, he did lots of bad things. Any questions?"
"Why are we here and not Auschwitz or something?"

Then we must ask ourselves: Why build museums to visit when you can visit the scene itself?

Geographical convenience.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:24 pm

Napkiraly wrote:It shouldn't be torn down. It should be turned into a nightclub catering to Jews, Roma, Slavs and LGBTQ people.

This would be as awesome as charging Joseph McCarthy's corpse with treason. Alcoholism took him away too soon to face the consequences of his desecularization of the US. I support turning Hitler's birthplace home into a nightclub for the Jewish, Roma, Slavic, and LGBTQ populations.
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Postby WaRtArIa » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:24 pm

"Um... so what do we do now?"

"Well, um, ah, Adolf Kipler had an abusive papa who beat him and his bro up, so, um, ah, his papa left him, and Adolf Kipler acted like a girly girl because being like a bully boy reminded him of his papa, er..."

"Eh."

"His papa was Jewish, and that's mahbe why Kipler hates teh Jews."

"Eh."

"Adolf Kipler felt moar passianate and moar inspired on persecuting teh Jews when he hated tems in the firsts place. Almost everybodeh persecutes teh Jews in teh first place back then, anyways. He could blame them."

"Why can't we just go visit Auschwitz? This is boring."
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Postby Albynau » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:27 pm

Simply due to historical value I think it should be kept

Destroying parts of history you don't like because it's bad seems like a bad idea

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:28 pm

Albynau wrote:Simply due to historical value I think it should be kept

Destroying parts of history you don't like because it's bad seems like a bad idea

Good thing no one is actually proposing that.
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Postby Othelos » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:31 pm

It should be torn down. The building has been owned by multiple people since Hitler's parents have lived there, and attracts neo-nazis. We have plenty of artifacts of Hitler and WW2, there's no reason to maintain a decrepit building because a historically significant person was born there.
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Postby United Republic of Eastern Canada » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:31 pm

Destroying a place of history is madness in my eyes. But then again, ISIS does this all the time.
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Postby Minzerland II » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Then we must ask ourselves: Why build museums to visit when you can visit the scene itself?

Geographical convenience.

Then why not repurpose this as a museum? There are many schools in the area, IIRC. It would be geographically convenient, moreso than visiting Auschwitz.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:02 pm

Well look at it this way, Marx's regular pubs are either gone or charge £5 for a pint.
£5 pints are arguably worse than this.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:36 am

Othelos wrote:It should be torn down. The building has been owned by multiple people since Hitler's parents, and attracts neo-nazis. We have plenty of artifacts of Hitler and WW2, there's no reason to maintain a decrepit building because a historically significant person was born there.

Hitler's parents never owned this place. They rented a room there.


Minzerland II wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Geographical convenience.

Then why not repurpose this as a museum?

You'd have to ask the owner.
There are many schools in the area, IIRC. It would be geographically convenient, moreso than visiting Auschwitz.

I imagine there are already several WW2 museums and historical sites in Austria. There's no need to throw up a museum in every place Hitler spent more than 24 hours.


Kubra wrote:Well look at it this way, Marx's regular pubs are either gone or charge £5 for a pint.
£5 pints are arguably worse than this.

£5 pints sounds pretty reasonable to me.
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Postby Minzerland II » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:11 am

Ifreann wrote:
Othelos wrote:It should be torn down. The building has been owned by multiple people since Hitler's parents, and attracts neo-nazis. We have plenty of artifacts of Hitler and WW2, there's no reason to maintain a decrepit building because a historically significant person was born there.

Hitler's parents never owned this place. They rented a room there.


Minzerland II wrote:Then why not repurpose this as a museum?

You'd have to ask the owner.

Seeing as the Austrian Ministry practically owns it...
There are many schools in the area, IIRC. It would be geographically convenient, moreso than visiting Auschwitz.

I imagine there are already several WW2 museums and historical sites in Austria. There's no need to throw up a museum in every place Hitler spent more than 24 hours.

Yeah, all built for geographical convenience; people who live in this area can't visit Auschwitz for a field trip on a whim. Besides, as it turns out, my point is moot... because it already is a museum:

In 2014, the Austrian Ministry decided to open in the house a "House of Responsibility"—a museum dedicated to Hitler's crimes during the existence of the Third Reich.

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braunau_am_Inn)
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Postby Emperyo » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:15 am

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:42 pm

Emperyo wrote:Te salut!
Let us drink to this moment, with a glass of salty tears from the alt-rightists.


Why would the Alt-Right care? The Nazi's are too modern.
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