"Political Correctness" Hypocrisy

[Shofercia]

The US Presidential Election has been a battle for "non-political correctness" on the Republican side, regardless of Donald Trump. What is frustrating to me, as someone on the left, is that this "non-political correctness" is being used to to be offensive and derogatory towards groups they dislike. If the left calls them out on it (like they have for Trump repeatedly), they deflect it by saying "telling it like it is" or "that's the state we're in." However, if the left were to use the same offensive and derogatory language towards things they hated, the left would be ridiculed for being rude and offensive and thus be discredited.

How could you even argue that something is "politically correct?" Is attacking those you dislike in an rude manner a good thing on the right because it's "not politically correct?" And why is it that if the left attempts what the right do, they get sandblasted and are discredited?

I bring this up because, as someone who is on the left, if I were to attack a Republican for their views (and admittedly, I have), I'm labeled as rude and offensive on the right, while someone could do the same to me and wouldn't be argued with about being rude and offensive. It is wrong to have outbursts and to attack anybody based on any of their beliefs, yes, and I'm not attempting to justify my wrongdoings of attacking people; this is more of a realization of learning from my mistakes and it feels frustrating.

What is everyone else's thoughts? Is there a hypocritical bias in the right when it comes to who uses "non-political correctness?" And how would you define "political correctness?" I'd like to have more viewpoints because I feel conflicted on how I'm supposed to view this, to be honest.

If the left was going to be discredited for being rude and offensive, that would've happened a long, long, long time ago:

"Secretary Clinton, say something nice about Donald Trump..."
"yeah, fuck that, I'm going to say something nice about the five people that are not Donald Trump!"

"Mr. Trump, say something nice about Secretary Clinton..."
"yeah, fuck that, she's just really tenacious in her stupidity and corruption, but she's tenacious, that's nice, right?"

Have you seen how rude Jon Oliver gets to people not born in the US when talking about their countries? The left is rude and not politically correct either. Saying otherwise is a myth. Political correctness isn't something that applies to politics, it's something that applies to the workplace, where it's considered ok to punish someone for not being politically correct. But if you're working in politics, ironically, let your mouth run wild and you'll be fine. You might even be a presidential candidate.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The US Presidential Election has been a battle for "non-political correctness" on the Republican side, regardless of Donald Trump. What is frustrating to me, as someone on the left, is that this "non-political correctness" is being used to to be offensive and derogatory towards groups they dislike. If the left calls them out on it (like they have for Trump repeatedly), they deflect it by saying "telling it like it is" or "that's the state we're in." However, if the left were to use the same offensive and derogatory language towards things they hated, the left would be ridiculed for being rude and offensive and thus be discredited.

How could you even argue that something is "politically correct?" Is attacking those you dislike in an rude manner a good thing on the right because it's "not politically correct?" And why is it that if the left attempts what the right do, they get sandblasted and are discredited?

I bring this up because, as someone who is on the left, if I were to attack a Republican for their views (and admittedly, I have), I'm labeled as rude and offensive on the right, while someone could do the same to me and wouldn't be argued with about being rude and offensive. It is wrong to have outbursts and to attack anybody based on any of their beliefs, yes, and I'm not attempting to justify my wrongdoings of attacking people; this is more of a realization of learning from my mistakes and it feels frustrating.

What is everyone else's thoughts? Is there a hypocritical bias in the right when it comes to who uses "non-political correctness?" And how would you define "political correctness?" I'd like to have more viewpoints because I feel conflicted on how I'm supposed to view this, to be honest.

If the left was going to be discredited for being rude and offensive, that would've happened a long, long, long time ago:

"Secretary Clinton, say something nice about Donald Trump..."
"yeah, fuck that, I'm going to say something nice about the five people that are not Donald Trump!"

"Mr. Trump, say something nice about Secretary Clinton..."
"yeah, fuck that, she's just really tenacious in her stupidity and corruption, but she's tenacious, that's nice, right?"

Have you seen how rude Jon Oliver gets to people not born in the US when talking about their countries? The left is rude and not politically correct either. Saying otherwise is a myth. Political correctness isn't something that applies to politics, it's something that applies to the workplace, where it's considered ok to punish someone for not being politically correct. But if you're working in politics, ironically, let your mouth run wild and you'll be fine. You might even be a presidential candidate.

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[Ashlak]

"Political correctness", in my view, is less what you think, and more about how you react to other people's thoughts.

A far left communist who genuinely believes in free speech ain't PC, a far right conservative who demands censorship is PC.

[Infected Mushroom]

Trump is on the right side.

The doctrine of Political Correctness has been wielded by the Democrats and their allies for far too long. Its about time people spoke the truth.

I'm hoping for a Trump victory.

[Galloism]

Trump is on the right side.

The doctrine of Political Correctness has been wielded by the Democrats and their allies for far too long. Its about time people spoke the truth.

I'm hoping for a Trump victory.

Because what we need to do is find someone who repeatedly abuses positions of authority for personal gain to the detriment of the people who gave him that authority, and make him president.

[Neutraligon]

Trump is on the right side.

The doctrine of Political Correctness has been wielded by the Democrats and their allies for far too long. Its about time people spoke the truth.

I'm hoping for a Trump victory.

So why is Trump so interested in suppressing the "truth" when it comes to people talking about him?

[Norstal]

The US Presidential Election has been a battle for "non-political correctness" on the Republican side, regardless of Donald Trump. What is frustrating to me, as someone on the left, is that this "non-political correctness" is being used to to be offensive and derogatory towards groups they dislike. If the left calls them out on it (like they have for Trump repeatedly), they deflect it by saying "telling it like it is" or "that's the state we're in." However, if the left were to use the same offensive and derogatory language towards things they hated, the left would be ridiculed for being rude and offensive and thus be discredited.

How could you even argue that something is "politically correct?" Is attacking those you dislike in an rude manner a good thing on the right because it's "not politically correct?" And why is it that if the left attempts what the right do, they get sandblasted and are discredited?

I bring this up because, as someone who is on the left, if I were to attack a Republican for their views (and admittedly, I have), I'm labeled as rude and offensive on the right, while someone could do the same to me and wouldn't be argued with about being rude and offensive. It is wrong to have outbursts and to attack anybody based on any of their beliefs, yes, and I'm not attempting to justify my wrongdoings of attacking people; this is more of a realization of learning from my mistakes and it feels frustrating.

What is everyone else's thoughts? Is there a hypocritical bias in the right when it comes to who uses "non-political correctness?" And how would you define "political correctness?" I'd like to have more viewpoints because I feel conflicted on how I'm supposed to view this, to be honest.

If the left was going to be discredited for being rude and offensive, that would've happened a long, long, long time ago:

"Secretary Clinton, say something nice about Donald Trump..."
"yeah, fuck that, I'm going to say something nice about the five people that are not Donald Trump!"

"Mr. Trump, say something nice about Secretary Clinton..."
"yeah, fuck that, she's just really tenacious in her stupidity and corruption, but she's tenacious, that's nice, right?"

Have you seen how rude Jon Oliver gets to people not born in the US when talking about their countries? The left is rude and not politically correct either. Saying otherwise is a myth. Political correctness isn't something that applies to politics, it's something that applies to the workplace, where it's considered ok to punish someone for not being politically correct. But if you're working in politics, ironically, let your mouth run wild and you'll be fine. You might even be a presidential candidate.

You know Jon Oliver is a humorist right? This is a false equivalence.

Also you just reiterated his point, so I'm not sure what your argument is. I mean that is his point, that a certain presidential candidate from the right can run wild and not face any consequences (within their party), while the other candidate have to be really careful.

[Crockerland]

Trump is on the right side.

The doctrine of Political Correctness has been wielded by the Democrats and their allies for far too long. Its about time people spoke the truth.

I'm hoping for a Trump victory.

Because what we need to do is find someone who repeatedly abuses positions of authority for personal gain to the detriment of the people who gave him that authority, and make him president.

Given the alternative, yes, we do.

[Arumbia67]

The side howling about political correctness the most is also the one most easily triggered and demanding safe spaces when Hillary accurately calls out part of their base as deplorable.

Trump has infected the Republican Party with projectionitis.

Yeah It's Republicans that scream about been triggered because someone's name was written on the sidewalk, or blocked all the exits at an event, and threatened to attack anyone who tried to leave because they didn't like the guest speaker. Oh wait.

[Master Shake]

Trump is on the right side.

The doctrine of Political Correctness has been wielded by the Democrats and their allies for far too long. Its about time people spoke the truth.

I'm hoping for a Trump victory.

I never thought I would ever agree with you, but here we are.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The side howling about political correctness the most is also the one most easily triggered and demanding safe spaces when Hillary accurately calls out part of their base as deplorable.

Trump has infected the Republican Party with projectionitis.

Yeah It's Republicans that scream about been triggered because someone's name was written on the sidewalk, or blocked all the exits at an event, and threatened to attack anyone who tried to leave because they didn't like the guest speaker. Oh wait.

You mean the same type of people who go and try to show up at a Mosque with guns just to be outgunned and then moan about the people who outgunned them? Or the people that got pissy because their event got cancelled? Or those who go "don't criticize the president! That's un-American and I won't stand for un-American traitors!"

Oh wait, I wasn't supposed to say that. Oops.

[Arumbia67]

"Political correctness", in my view, is less what you think, and more about how you react to other people's thoughts.

A far left communist who genuinely believes in free speech ain't PC, a far right conservative who demands censorship is PC.

Generally neither believe in free speech, they'll just cry about it whenever someone they agree with get's criticized. Kap anybody?

[Arumbia67]

Yeah It's Republicans that scream about been triggered because someone's name was written on the sidewalk, or blocked all the exits at an event, and threatened to attack anyone who tried to leave because they didn't like the guest speaker. Oh wait.

You mean the same type of people who go and try to show up at a Mosque with guns just to be outgunned and then moan about the people who outgunned them?

Oh wait, I wasn't supposed to say that. Oops.

Did they actually threaten violence, or just show up? Also let me know when Conservative college students start screaming that the phrase "you guys" is a micro aggression. Or throw tantrums and claim that costumes put them into physical pain. Speaking of that video, I'm impressed how calm the university president remained. I would of been pretty intimated to be surrounded by a crowd like that, especially if one was inches from my face half screaming at me.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You mean the same type of people who go and try to show up at a Mosque with guns just to be outgunned and then moan about the people who outgunned them?

Oh wait, I wasn't supposed to say that. Oops.

Did they actually threaten violence, or just show up? Also let me know when Conservative college students start screaming that the phrase "you guys" is a micro aggression. Or throw tantrums and claim that costumes put them into physical pain. Speaking of that video, I'm impressed how calm the university president remained. I would of been pretty intimated to be surrounded by a crowd like that, especially if one was inches from my face half screaming at me.

What do you think?

And for the record, let me know when Liberals get offended by the word "fuck" being pronounced in public. Or throw tantrums and claim that criticism is just stifling their freedom of speech. Or claim that banning them from Twitter is abridging their freedom of speech.

For every example of Liberals making complaints about trivial matters, there are similar examples of Conservatives whining about trivial matters. One side goes "look! I am so offended by this!" and the other side goes "Oh yea! I think your example is shit, but let me find a shittier example, and whine about it because I think they're wrong!"

What am I getting at? That both sides have their idiots who are hypersensitive idiots. It's not just liberals who are guilty of it.

[Twilight Imperium]

Also you just reiterated his point, so I'm not sure what your argument is. I mean that is his point, that a certain presidential candidate from the right can run wild and not face any consequences (within their party), while the other candidate have to be really careful.

What are they supposed to do to him though? Make him not the candidate anymore? They tried that. Too much of their base is really keen on what he's selling, and they can't oust him without losing them.

[Arumbia67]

Did they actually threaten violence, or just show up? Also let me know when Conservative college students start screaming that the phrase "you guys" is a micro aggression. Or throw tantrums and claim that costumes put them into physical pain. Speaking of that video, I'm impressed how calm the university president remained. I would of been pretty intimated to be surrounded by a crowd like that, especially if one was inches from my face half screaming at me.

What do you think?

And for the record, let me know when Liberals get offended by the word "fuck" being pronounced in public. Or throw tantrums and claim that criticism is just stifling their freedom of speech. Or claim that banning them from Twitter is abridging their freedom of speech.

For every example of Liberals making complaints about trivial matters, there are similar examples of Conservatives whining about trivial matters.

[Transoxthraxia]

political correctness perpetuates racism. If you have to ask why, you're a part of the problem. GG.

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[Arumbia67]

What do you think?

And for the record, let me know when Liberals get offended by the word "fuck" being pronounced in public. Or throw tantrums and claim that criticism is just stifling their freedom of speech. Or claim that banning them from Twitter is abridging their freedom of speech.

For every example of Liberals making complaints about trivial matters, there are similar examples of Conservatives whining about trivial matters.

That's pretty much been the entire argument during the Kapernick fiasco. Either that or if you disagree with him It's because you're a racist and don't care about the murder of Black civilians. Funny how many of them weren't so concerned about free speech when Tebow was expressing his views on the field. In fact, many of them same people threw a huge hissy fit when a Muslim player was flagged under the rule they insisted on. Open mouth insert foot. But yeah both are pretty bad about it.

[Twilight Imperium]

political correctness perpetuates racism. If you have to ask why, you're a part of the problem. GG.

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why

[Senkaku]

That both sides have their idiots who are hypersensitive idiots. It's not just liberals who are guilty of it.

Hypersensitive idiots, like gravitational fields, are present everywhere in the universe.

[Shofercia]

If the left was going to be discredited for being rude and offensive, that would've happened a long, long, long time ago:

"Secretary Clinton, say something nice about Donald Trump..."
"yeah, fuck that, I'm going to say something nice about the five people that are not Donald Trump!"

"Mr. Trump, say something nice about Secretary Clinton..."
"yeah, fuck that, she's just really tenacious in her stupidity and corruption, but she's tenacious, that's nice, right?"

Have you seen how rude Jon Oliver gets to people not born in the US when talking about their countries? The left is rude and not politically correct either. Saying otherwise is a myth. Political correctness isn't something that applies to politics, it's something that applies to the workplace, where it's considered ok to punish someone for not being politically correct. But if you're working in politics, ironically, let your mouth run wild and you'll be fine. You might even be a presidential candidate.

You know Jon Oliver is a humorist right? This is a false equivalence.

Also you just reiterated his point, so I'm not sure what your argument is. I mean that is his point, that a certain presidential candidate from the right can run wild and not face any consequences (within their party), while the other candidate have to be really careful.

I live in California. You know how many ads I get that are very rude, on both sides of the spectrum? The Democrat candidate lost my vote for running an ad that said "Trump bad, Republicans bad, Trump Republican", even though the Republican he was running against had nothing to do with Trump. Actually I was going to vote for the Republican guy anyways, cause the Democratic candidate wanted to mess with property taxes. Not smart. Oh, and I liked the Republican guy's stance on various issues. Anyways, as far as presidential candidates go, they're both being incredibly rude to one another another. So no, it's not reiterating the OPs point. As far as Oliver's concerned, I like a humorist who doesn't pander to Netflix. If I want extreme, yet humorous, liberal bias, there's Bill Maher.

And for the record, let me know when Liberals get offended by the word "fuck" being pronounced in public. Or throw tantrums and claim that criticism is just stifling their freedom of speech. Or claim that banning them from Twitter is abridging their freedom of speech.

For every example of Liberals making complaints about trivial matters, there are similar examples of Conservatives whining about trivial matters. One side goes "look! I am so offended by this!" and the other side goes "Oh yea! I think your example is shit, but let me find a shittier example, and whine about it because I think they're wrong!"

What am I getting at? That both sides have their idiots who are hypersensitive idiots. It's not just liberals who are guilty of it.

See, now there's a post that I complete agree with

[Razgriskm]

Maybe conservatives wouldn't be up in arms in your country if university in California didn't offer "Black only" dorms or if racist was used as some sort of banner and the actual meaning being forgotten to the ages past when people owned a dictionary at home.

[Norstal]

Also you just reiterated his point, so I'm not sure what your argument is. I mean that is his point, that a certain presidential candidate from the right can run wild and not face any consequences (within their party), while the other candidate have to be really careful.

What are they supposed to do to him though? Make him not the candidate anymore? They tried that. Too much of their base is really keen on what he's selling, and they can't oust him without losing them.

They could start by not being so damn hyperbolic in their media as if it's the end of the world every time. Or is that still too much to ask?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

The right doesn't like real political correctness. Not calling Islamic terror Islamic, SJWs crying things are offensive, or people saying that if you don't like Hillary you are sexist. Politically correct means you go out of your way to not offend people even if it is true, such as shutting down anyone who questions the BLM movement or Islam.

So why the outcry from Trump supporters when Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorable"

Because insulting voters is political suicide, I find it hard to believe you couldn't figure that out yourself.

[Twilight Imperium]

What are they supposed to do to him though? Make him not the candidate anymore? They tried that. Too much of their base is really keen on what he's selling, and they can't oust him without losing them.

They could start by not being so damn hyperbolic in their media as if it's the end of the world every time. Or is that still too much to ask?

Apparently so