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Postby Unpredictable Galaxy » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:20 am

The US Presidential Election has been a battle for "non-political correctness" on the Republican side, regardless of Donald Trump. What is frustrating to me, as someone on the left, is that this "non-political correctness" is being used to to be offensive and derogatory towards groups they dislike. If the left calls them out on it (like they have for Trump repeatedly), they deflect it by saying "telling it like it is" or "that's the state we're in." However, if the left were to use the same offensive and derogatory language towards things they hated, the left would be ridiculed for being rude and offensive and thus be discredited.

How could you even argue that something is "politically correct?" Is attacking those you dislike in an rude manner a good thing on the right because it's "not politically correct?" And why is it that if the left attempts what the right do, they get sandblasted and are discredited?

I bring this up because, as someone who is on the left, if I were to attack a Republican for their views (and admittedly, I have), I'm labeled as rude and offensive on the right, while someone could do the same to me and wouldn't be argued with about being rude and offensive. It is wrong to have outbursts and to attack anybody based on any of their beliefs, yes, and I'm not attempting to justify my wrongdoings of attacking people; this is more of a realization of learning from my mistakes and it feels frustrating.

What is everyone else's thoughts? Is there a hypocritical bias in the right when it comes to who uses "non-political correctness?" And how would you define "political correctness?" I'd like to have more viewpoints because I feel conflicted on how I'm supposed to view this, to be honest.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:23 am

The side howling about political correctness the most is also the one most easily triggered and demanding safe spaces when Hillary accurately calls out part of their base as deplorable.

Trump has infected the Republican Party with projectionitis.
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Postby Unpredictable Galaxy » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:28 am

Gauthier wrote:The side howling about political correctness the most is also the one most easily triggered and demanding safe spaces when Hillary accurately calls out part of their base as deplorable.

Trump has infected the Republican Party with projectionitis.


Yes, this is exactly how I feel. It's infuriating and impossible for those on the right to understand their wrongdoings in some circumstances, i.e. Benghazi and E-Mail hearings.
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Gauthier wrote:The side howling about political correctness the most is also the one most easily triggered and demanding safe spaces when Hillary accurately calls out part of their base as deplorable.

Trump has infected the Republican Party with projectionitis.

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Postby The Hoosier Alliance » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:56 am

The right doesn't like real political correctness. Not calling Islamic terror Islamic, SJWs crying things are offensive, or people saying that if you don't like Hillary you are sexist. Politically correct means you go out of your way to not offend people even if it is true, such as shutting down anyone who questions the BLM movement or Islam.
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Postby AtlantisB » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:01 pm

Hear I see why I should swear eternal hostility against Unpredictable Galaxy, an all-out Communist in "progressive" disguise. If he supports Red Bern and the Hillwitch he is a sordid traitor and rotten enemy of America, period, and he proves that by seeking to repeal the Second Amendment at a time when America requires an armed populace to rise in armed revolt.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:05 pm

The Hoosier Alliance wrote:The right doesn't like real political correctness. Not calling Islamic terror Islamic, SJWs crying things are offensive, or people saying that if you don't like Hillary you are sexist. Politically correct means you go out of your way to not offend people even if it is true, such as shutting down anyone who questions the BLM movement or Islam.

So why the outcry from Trump supporters when Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorable"
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Postby The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:05 pm

AtlantisB wrote:Hear I see why I should swear eternal hostility against Unpredictable Galaxy, an all-out Communist in "progressive" disguise. If he supports Red Bern and the Hillwitch he is a sordid traitor and rotten enemy of America, period, and he proves that by seeking to repeal the Second Amendment at a time when America requires an armed populace to rise in armed revolt.

By the way, I loathe both Adolf Hitler Trump and Bill's whore. I support the Libertarian Gary Johnson as America's only chance and the only President for the Founders' America.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:06 pm

AtlantisB wrote:Hear I see why I should swear eternal hostility against Unpredictable Galaxy, an all-out Communist in "progressive" disguise. If he supports Red Bern and the Hillwitch he is a sordid traitor and rotten enemy of America, period, and he proves that by seeking to repeal the Second Amendment at a time when America requires an armed populace to rise in armed revolt.

By the way, I loathe both Adolf Hitler Trump and Bill's whore. I support the Libertarian Gary Johnson as America's only chance and the only President for the Founders' America.

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Postby Trumpostan » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:11 pm

Unpredictable Galaxy wrote:The US Presidential Election has been a battle for "non-political correctness" on the Republican side, regardless of Donald Trump. What is frustrating to me, as someone on the left, is that this "non-political correctness" is being used to to be offensive and derogatory towards groups they dislike. If the left calls them out on it (like they have for Trump repeatedly), they deflect it by saying "telling it like it is" or "that's the state we're in." However, if the left were to use the same offensive and derogatory language towards things they hated, the left would be ridiculed for being rude and offensive and thus be discredited.

How could you even argue that something is "politically correct?" Is attacking those you dislike in an rude manner a good thing on the right because it's "not politically correct?" And why is it that if the left attempts what the right do, they get sandblasted and are discredited?

I bring this up because, as someone who is on the left, if I were to attack a Republican for their views (and admittedly, I have), I'm labeled as rude and offensive on the right, while someone could do the same to me and wouldn't be argued with about being rude and offensive. It is wrong to have outbursts and to attack anybody based on any of their beliefs, yes, and I'm not attempting to justify my wrongdoings of attacking people; this is more of a realization of learning from my mistakes and it feels frustrating.

What is everyone else's thoughts? Is there a hypocritical bias in the right when it comes to who uses "non-political correctness?" And how would you define "political correctness?" I'd like to have more viewpoints because I feel conflicted on how I'm supposed to view this, to be honest.


The hypocrisy is staggeringly YUUGE. It makes me think IOKIYAR is really a thing. Wanting to attack Bill Clinton for things they claim happened in the 1980s and 90s is perfectly OK, but Trump who likely has been far worse in terms of adultery and abuse (trial pending in december) should not be questioned about stuff that happened 11-12 years ago.

It was the same thinking behind GOP outrage at Dems suggesting the disappearance of millions of e-mails between 2004 and 2007 should be investigated, deploringly declaring that such partisan attacks on a president when we are at "war" was unpatriotic. Those mails were deleted by Karl Rove and co to destroy evidence that might have been used to shed light on the war crimes W and Cheney. And look what happens now with Hillary's e-mails.

Reagan treasonously undercuts Carter in 1980 (as did Nixon to LBJ in 1968): no problemo. But what if they ever found out that Obama told Iraq to hold out for a better deal under him? They'd still be talking about treason today.

The GOP demonstrates the bully mentality, they can dish it out (claiming that criticism is "political correctness") but they can't take it, then they go crying to their corporate or media friends claiming that the nasty liberal media is persecuting them.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:30 pm

I have to agree that the right does have some degree of hypocrisy among its members.

While I think the term "political correctness" is silly (because, really, all it means is "don't be a dick" and having manners), many on the right tend to cry about the same things they do to their political opponents.

But then that's politics for you.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:42 pm

AtlantisB wrote:Hear I see why I should swear eternal hostility against Unpredictable Galaxy, an all-out Communist in "progressive" disguise. If he supports Red Bern and the Hillwitch he is a sordid traitor and rotten enemy of America, period, and he proves that by seeking to repeal the Second Amendment at a time when America requires an armed populace to rise in armed revolt.

By the way, I loathe both Adolf Hitler Trump and Bill's whore. I support the Libertarian Gary Johnson as America's only chance and the only President for the Founders' America.


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Postby The Serbian Empire » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:48 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
The Hoosier Alliance wrote:The right doesn't like real political correctness. Not calling Islamic terror Islamic, SJWs crying things are offensive, or people saying that if you don't like Hillary you are sexist. Politically correct means you go out of your way to not offend people even if it is true, such as shutting down anyone who questions the BLM movement or Islam.

So why the outcry from Trump supporters when Hillary called Trump supporters "deplorable"

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Postby Trumpostan » Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:52 pm

AtlantisB wrote:Hear I see why I should swear eternal hostility against Unpredictable Galaxy, an all-out Communist in "progressive" disguise. If he supports Red Bern and the Hillwitch he is a sordid traitor and rotten enemy of America, period, and he proves that by seeking to repeal the Second Amendment at a time when America requires an armed populace to rise in armed revolt.

By the way, I loathe both Adolf Hitler Trump and Bill's whore. I support the Libertarian Gary Johnson as America's only chance and the only President for the Founders' America.


The Founders' America is an America with slavery, and only white male landowners can vote. As George Carlin once said, they founders were a bunch of slaveholders who wanted to be free, they were stunningly arrogant.

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Postby Gate 49 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:02 pm

It's absolutely hypocritical. Political correctness is really just basic respect and decency, to insult someone and then call them out when they respond in kind under the guise of "telling it like it is" is simply circular reasoning.

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Postby Unpredictable Galaxy » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:04 pm

AtlantisB wrote:Hear I see why I should swear eternal hostility against Unpredictable Galaxy, an all-out Communist in "progressive" disguise. If he supports Red Bern and the Hillwitch he is a sordid traitor and rotten enemy of America, period, and he proves that by seeking to repeal the Second Amendment at a time when America requires an armed populace to rise in armed revolt.


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Postby Dakini » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:06 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:I have to agree that the right does have some degree of hypocrisy among its members.

While I think the term "political correctness" is silly (because, really, all it means is "don't be a dick" and having manners), many on the right tend to cry about the same things they do to their political opponents.

But then that's politics for you.

It's funny. My parents will whinge about political correctness, but as soon as I drop an f-bomb in their presence, they're super pissed that I would use such language.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:08 pm

The Hoosier Alliance wrote:The right doesn't like real political correctness. Not calling Islamic terror Islamic, SJWs crying things are offensive, or people saying that if you don't like Hillary you are sexist. Politically correct means you go out of your way to not offend people even if it is true, such as shutting down anyone who questions the BLM movement or Islam.


Actually, political correctness is a myth created by the right-wing to shut down discussion of things they don't like without actually addressing them. Ironically (and hypocritically), creating their own brand of what is and is not politically correct to say.
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Postby Dakini » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:08 pm

AtlantisB wrote:Bill's whore.

Woah. What in the ever-loving-fuck?

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Is every woman who has sex with a man his whore? Even if she's married to him?

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:09 pm

Complaints about 'political correctness' 90% of the time are just people crying about their uneducated and bigoted statements being debunked.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:11 pm

Dakini wrote:
AtlantisB wrote:Bill's whore.

Woah. What in the ever-loving-fuck?

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Is every woman who has sex with a man his whore? Even if she's married to him?


No. Only if she's a leftie. :roll:
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Postby Dakini » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:21 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Dakini wrote:Woah. What in the ever-loving-fuck?

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Is every woman who has sex with a man his whore? Even if she's married to him?


No. Only if she's a leftie. :roll:

It's just absolutely dumbfounding.

Like, even calling sex workers "whores" is crude and referring to a sex worker as "some dude's whore" is some objectifying bullshit. Calling a woman who is married to some dude his whore is just...

Words fail me.


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Postby Unpredictable Galaxy » Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:26 pm

Farnhamia wrote:AtlantisB is not the topic.


Sorry! Let me divert it with a comment:

I'm actually surprised that people agree with me on this statement. And I do especially agree with this:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:While I think the term "political correctness" is silly (because, really, all it means is "don't be a dick" and having manners),


But since "Political Correctness" is in the mill of conversations, it's best to discuss it. Even my dentist said she hates all this political correctness, and I just thought to myself "Isn't that just an excuse to be mean to people?"
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