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US Presidential Election Poll - RWDT Edition

Poll ended at Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:10 am

Hillary Clinton
94
25%
Donald Trump
173
46%
Gary Johnson
47
12%
Jill Stein
16
4%
Evan McMullin
20
5%
Darrell Castle
8
2%
Other
20
5%
 
Total votes : 378

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Postby The V O I D » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:39 pm

The East Marches wrote:
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Hillary is just as bad. She's a surveillance/security statist and is way too flip floppity on social issues for me to trust her.

Also, I am nothing like Trump. Literally, like, at all. I want none of the things he wants. I advocate for stratocratic influences, but that's in the interest of the nation so that no one would be able to invade us without literally having to fight the entire population.


The use of extreme government power to impose your will upon others would certainly count as similar in my book. You don't even want to let private clubs assemble without being subject to your whims.


I don't know if you knew this, but politically I've move on to a social liberal federal parliamentary two-party republic, with meritocratic/stratocratic influences.

So, no. I'm not like that.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:40 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches wrote:>Hates warrants
>Dislikes free speech
>Muh security state
>Muh interventionism

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Never said the common cold was any good.


.... I'll allow it.
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Dushan » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:40 pm

My friends,

let's face the unfortunatly realities. The more or less beloved Champion of Kekism and Chaos alike, Donald Trump, might have been finally passed the point where he has been turned into a unpredictable Chaos Spawn that is unlikely to get elected President of the United States.

The Trump Train has been over the past Year one Hell of a Ride that was in every single aspect Top Kek and I had been following with curiosity, thrilling and occassional cheering. While I never endorsed him, I cannot deny that I throughly enjoyed the course of the Campaign, despite the recent downfall and self-pity saddens me. This is not how a follower of Kek should conduct himself.

Yet, there are still 23 Day until the night when things will finally decide. We do not know what will happen in those 23 Days, and even less so in the fateful Night as the Fog of War has been arisen and every side retreated into it's own bubbles and we cannot tell what Forces lurk in those Shadows of uncertainity.

The Train in it's insane Speed has caused and brought widespread devastation to the Political Landscape of the United States, namely opening a rift that has been not existed before and through which perhaps in the futures new political forces of change will spread and form from.

Praise Kek and brace for the last remaining Days of this amazing Election Cycle.
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Postby Vedilia » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:40 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Hillary is Trumplite in the same way that the common cold is Ebolalite.


>Hates warrants
>Dislikes free speech
>Muh security state
>Muh interventionism

Do not pass go, do not collect $200

Trump isn't interventionist.
Although I have no doubt he'd want protection money if he was going to intervene anywhere.
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The use of extreme government power to impose your will upon others would certainly count as similar in my book. You don't even want to let private clubs assemble without being subject to your whims.


I don't know if you knew this, but politically I've move on to a social liberal federal parliamentary two-party republic, with meritocratic/stratocratic influences.

So, no. I'm not like that.

Why only two parties?
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:41 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
The use of extreme government power to impose your will upon others would certainly count as similar in my book. You don't even want to let private clubs assemble without being subject to your whims.


I don't know if you knew this, but politically I've move on to a social liberal federal parliamentary two-party republic, with meritocratic/stratocratic influences.

So, no. I'm not like that.


We had a discussion on your views of private organizations and clubs earlier. Do you not remember this?
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Muinordgrad » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:42 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Muinordgrad wrote:Remember, any group of people with too much power can do horrible things.

I take it that, just going off of a guess, you are probably some kind of reformed protestant? If so, take John Calvin as an example. He was the founder of all reformed Christian views, including the many reformed Christian groups that do many charitable and kind things. Calvin himself, however, was thrust into power in the city of Geneva, Switzerland when it was still independent, and the power went to his head. He persecuted the nonElect and non protestants viciously, to the point of taking Michael Severtus, an aspiring reformer who was visiting, and burning him at the steak.

Even if the opposition has views you or I don't agree with, it does not make their opposition to movements "bad". In fact, due to their criticism, even better ideas can come about.


Thats just the point. I'm not disagreeing with you nor was I being sarcastic above. I sincerely believe we must have checks on power or else men will go mad with power. It is why I am so fond of our current system.

Then why are you so afraid of who the next president is going to be?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:43 pm

After thinking on it for a long time, I'm against Trump first and foremost because of the international instability his presidency would bring. I've no love for Hillary or any of her policies. What I've heard of Trump's domestic policies are rubbish, his rhetoric is disgusting and the people riding with him are fucked up. But as a foreigner, that all fades before his prospective foreign policy. At the end of the day, I don't want my little neck of the woods to cop a nuke, or get dragged into some stupid war. So don't vote in Trump thanks.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:44 pm

Vedilia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
>Hates warrants
>Dislikes free speech
>Muh security state
>Muh interventionism

Do not pass go, do not collect $200

Trump isn't interventionist.

He isn't an isolationist either. He doesn't understand the rest of the world and the US relationship to it. And he doesn't really care. This is a bad thing.
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:45 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Thats just the point. I'm not disagreeing with you nor was I being sarcastic above. I sincerely believe we must have checks on power or else men will go mad with power. It is why I am so fond of our current system.

Then why are you so afraid of who the next president is going to be?


Because the power of the executive has expanded dramatically over the last 40 or so odd years. While Congress still has power, the Presidency has power as well. Executive orders and other things have the potential to make life difficult. Not to mention structural economic issues which pose a real threat to the United States will not be addressed in any meaningful manner. While we may not longer be sailing at full speed towards the waterfall, we're going to be drifting instead.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Vedilia » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:46 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Vedilia wrote:Trump isn't interventionist.

He isn't an isolationist either. He doesn't understand the rest of the world and the US relationship to it. And he doesn't really care. This is a bad thing.

He sounds like the first apathetic president. Which is pretty bad indeed.
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Postby Muinordgrad » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:47 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Muinordgrad wrote:Then why are you so afraid of who the next president is going to be?


Because the power of the executive has expanded dramatically over the last 40 or so odd years. While Congress still has power, the Presidency has power as well. Executive orders and other things have the potential to make life difficult. Not to mention structural economic issues which pose a real threat to the United States will not be addressed in any meaningful manner. While we may not longer be sailing at full speed towards the waterfall, we're going to be drifting instead.

But as a fascist, wouldn't a massive expansion of presidential power (albeit under the "right" president) be a good thing?
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Postby Bakery Hill » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:47 pm

Vedilia wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:He isn't an isolationist either. He doesn't understand the rest of the world and the US relationship to it. And he doesn't really care. This is a bad thing.

He sounds like the first apathetic president. Which is pretty bad indeed.

Apathetic maybe, idiotic and arrogant definitely. And the last two are a bad combination.
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:48 pm

Dushan wrote:My friends,

let's face the unfortunatly realities. The more or less beloved Champion of Kekism and Chaos alike, Donald Trump, might have been finally passed the point where he has been turned into a unpredictable Chaos Spawn that is unlikely to get elected President of the United States.

The Trump Train has been over the past Year one Hell of a Ride that was in every single aspect Top Kek and I had been following with curiosity, thrilling and occassional cheering. While I never endorsed him, I cannot deny that I throughly enjoyed the course of the Campaign, despite the recent downfall and self-pity saddens me. This is not how a follower of Kek should conduct himself.

Yet, there are still 23 Day until the night when things will finally decide. We do not know what will happen in those 23 Days, and even less so in the fateful Night as the Fog of War has been arisen and every side retreated into it's own bubbles and we cannot tell what Forces lurk in those Shadows of uncertainity.

The Train in it's insane Speed has caused and brought widespread devastation to the Political Landscape of the United States, namely opening a rift that has been not existed before and through which perhaps in the futures new political forces of change will spread and form from.

Praise Kek and brace for the last remaining Days of this amazing Election Cycle.


Thats true. This has been one of the most interesting trips on Mr. Bones Wild Ride that I've been on in awhile. Praise Kek and all hail the God Emperor. Its also interesting that a no name shit site like 4chan could enter the public consciousness for the first time. I mean the UN are even commissioning studies on the place now. Soon they may even send us one of their famed "strongly worded letters".
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.


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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:48 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Because the power of the executive has expanded dramatically over the last 40 or so odd years. While Congress still has power, the Presidency has power as well. Executive orders and other things have the potential to make life difficult. Not to mention structural economic issues which pose a real threat to the United States will not be addressed in any meaningful manner. While we may not longer be sailing at full speed towards the waterfall, we're going to be drifting instead.

But as a fascist, wouldn't a massive expansion of presidential power (albeit under the "right" president) be a good thing?


I am not a fascist by any means amigo. I bear no love for that system.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Muinordgrad » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:50 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Muinordgrad wrote:But as a fascist, wouldn't a massive expansion of presidential power (albeit under the "right" president) be a good thing?


I am not a fascist by any means amigo. I bear no love for that system.

So why are you calling for the expulsion of those people?

Edit: Wrong Person

EDIT: Wrong thread. I... I'm just gonna take the L
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Postby The V O I D » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:50 pm

Vedilia wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
I don't know if you knew this, but politically I've move on to a social liberal federal parliamentary two-party republic, with meritocratic/stratocratic influences.

So, no. I'm not like that.

Why only two parties?


You only need two. The State Party / Federal Party (pro-state ideology overall, and pro-government as is) and the Opposition Party (any ideology that isn't the state ideology lumped together).

It's... efficient.

The East Marches wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
I don't know if you knew this, but politically I've move on to a social liberal federal parliamentary two-party republic, with meritocratic/stratocratic influences.

So, no. I'm not like that.


We had a discussion on your views of private organizations and clubs earlier. Do you not remember this?


ffs, I'm just keeping the current anti-discrimination laws and applying them to religious institutions.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:51 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I am not a fascist by any means amigo. I bear no love for that system.

So why are you calling for the expulsion of those people?


Which people?
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Vedilia » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:52 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I am not a fascist by any means amigo. I bear no love for that system.

So why are you calling for the expulsion of those people?

TEM isn't Imperial Union of America, as far as can be known.
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Postby Muinordgrad » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:54 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Muinordgrad wrote:So why are you calling for the expulsion of those people?


Which people?

Crap, I have like six NS tabs up and there is a dude who is full on calling for end of WWII level expulsions on another thread, and he has a similar flag...
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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:02 pm

Muinordgrad wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Which people?

Crap, I have like six NS tabs up and there is a dude who is full on calling for end of WWII level expulsions on another thread, and he has a similar flag...


Its no problem, don't worry about it. Mistakes happen.
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Germanic Templars » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:03 pm

Dushan wrote:My friends,

let's face the unfortunatly realities. The more or less beloved Champion of Kekism and Chaos alike, Donald Trump, might have been finally passed the point where he has been turned into a unpredictable Chaos Spawn that is unlikely to get elected President of the United States.

The Trump Train has been over the past Year one Hell of a Ride that was in every single aspect Top Kek and I had been following with curiosity, thrilling and occassional cheering. While I never endorsed him, I cannot deny that I throughly enjoyed the course of the Campaign, despite the recent downfall and self-pity saddens me. This is not how a follower of Kek should conduct himself.

Yet, there are still 23 Day until the night when things will finally decide. We do not know what will happen in those 23 Days, and even less so in the fateful Night as the Fog of War has been arisen and every side retreated into it's own bubbles and we cannot tell what Forces lurk in those Shadows of uncertainity.

The Train in it's insane Speed has caused and brought widespread devastation to the Political Landscape of the United States, namely opening a rift that has been not existed before and through which perhaps in the futures new political forces of change will spread and form from.

Praise Kek and brace for the last remaining Days of this amazing Election Cycle.


But I dont want Hillary to win, she'll just lead us into more war.

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Postby The East Marches » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:05 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:
Dushan wrote:My friends,

let's face the unfortunatly realities. The more or less beloved Champion of Kekism and Chaos alike, Donald Trump, might have been finally passed the point where he has been turned into a unpredictable Chaos Spawn that is unlikely to get elected President of the United States.

The Trump Train has been over the past Year one Hell of a Ride that was in every single aspect Top Kek and I had been following with curiosity, thrilling and occassional cheering. While I never endorsed him, I cannot deny that I throughly enjoyed the course of the Campaign, despite the recent downfall and self-pity saddens me. This is not how a follower of Kek should conduct himself.

Yet, there are still 23 Day until the night when things will finally decide. We do not know what will happen in those 23 Days, and even less so in the fateful Night as the Fog of War has been arisen and every side retreated into it's own bubbles and we cannot tell what Forces lurk in those Shadows of uncertainity.

The Train in it's insane Speed has caused and brought widespread devastation to the Political Landscape of the United States, namely opening a rift that has been not existed before and through which perhaps in the futures new political forces of change will spread and form from.

Praise Kek and brace for the last remaining Days of this amazing Election Cycle.


But I dont want Hillary to win, she'll just lead us into more war.


Are you "thinking" Germanic? I heard about that "thinking" stuff. Thats a little bit dangerous. You ought to be careful.
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:06 pm

Germanic Templars wrote:But I dont want Hillary to win, she'll just lead us into more war.

All the bourgeois candidates (which is all of them, really) will likely lead us into more wars. It's good for the bottom line, after all.
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Postby Aelex » Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:10 pm

Hentai poll is leading. Why am I not surprised? :lol:
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