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US Presidential Election Poll - RWDT Edition

Poll ended at Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:10 am

Hillary Clinton
94
25%
Donald Trump
173
46%
Gary Johnson
47
12%
Jill Stein
16
4%
Evan McMullin
20
5%
Darrell Castle
8
2%
Other
20
5%
 
Total votes : 378

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Postby Aelex » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:46 am

Camaalbakrius wrote:Hillary is more Fascist than Trump, if you think about it: Her slogan is "Stronger Together"

Ask yourself:
What is the symbol of Fascism?
What does that symbol mean?/What is the message that it sends?

Then do the math

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Postby The East Marches » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:47 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Camaalbakrius wrote:Yet every fascist mentions working towards the common good.

Yes, but that does not make everyone who wants to work towards that a fascist. Social democracy for instance, places a lot of emphasis on the common good. It however is not fascism.


Funny you should mention that, I believe some of our tankie friends in LWDT may dispute your claim. "Social Fascism" I believe Stalin once called it or something like that.
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Postby Nusaresa » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:48 am

The East Marches wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Yes, but that does not make everyone who wants to work towards that a fascist. Social democracy for instance, places a lot of emphasis on the common good. It however is not fascism.


Funny you should mention that, I believe some of our tankie friends in LWDT may dispute your claim. "Social Fascism" I believe Stalin once called it or something like that.

Social what now.
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Postby The East Marches » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:52 am

Nusaresa wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Funny you should mention that, I believe some of our tankie friends in LWDT may dispute your claim. "Social Fascism" I believe Stalin once called it or something like that.

Social what now.


If I understood it, I'd tell you myself.
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Postby The Kievan People » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:54 am

Camaalbakrius wrote:Yet e[*]very fascist mentions working towards the common good.


Aside from joke ideologies like libertarianism, everyone talks about the common good. "Stronger together" is about as profound as "Fun things are fun".
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:57 am

Nusaresa wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Funny you should mention that, I believe some of our tankie friends in LWDT may dispute your claim. "Social Fascism" I believe Stalin once called it or something like that.

Social what now.

The Social Fascism doctrine holds that Social Democracy (as we understand it today) is a variation of Fascism because it seeks essentially the same goal of a corporatist economy and class collaborationism.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:58 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:The Social Fascism doctrine holds that Social Democracy (as we understand it today) is a variation of Fascism because it seeks essentially the same goal of a corporatist economy and class collaborationism.

So basically every ideological group other than free-market fairies and Marxists?
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Postby The Kievan People » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:58 am

Speaking of dumb memes from this election, Hillary Clinton will not get into a nuclear war with Russia.

There are 99 reasons not to vote for her and that ain't one.
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Postby Nusaresa » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:59 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Nusaresa wrote:Social what now.

The Social Fascism doctrine holds that Social Democracy (as we understand it today) is a variation of Fascism because it seeks essentially the same goal of a corporatist economy and class collaborationism.

... I can see why one would end up to such a conclusion but still.
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Postby The Kievan People » Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:59 am

Conserative Morality wrote:So basically every ideological group other than free-market fairies and Marxists?


No, you got it backwards, this is straight outta the Comintern.
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:00 pm

The Kievan People wrote:Speaking of dumb memes from this election, Hillary Clinton will not get into a nuclear war with Russia.

There are 99 reasons not to vote for her and that ain't one.

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Postby United Marxist Nations » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:02 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:The Social Fascism doctrine holds that Social Democracy (as we understand it today) is a variation of Fascism because it seeks essentially the same goal of a corporatist economy and class collaborationism.

So basically every ideological group other than free-market fairies and Marxists?

Not really. Stalin argued that Fascism and Social Democracy came about from the same political desires, and the same corruption of socialist thought.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:03 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Not really. Stalin argued that Fascism and Social Democracy came about from the same political desires, and the same corruption of socialist thought.

Name me a non-lassiez-faire non-communist ideology that doesn't bank in on 'class collaboration' and a 'corporatist economy' in the same way SocDems can be said to.
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Postby The Kievan People » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:05 pm

"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Russia"

This meme is just so bad it melts my brain. Putinistas are the Trots of the alt-right.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:06 pm

The Kievan People wrote:"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Russia"

This meme is just so bad it melts my brain. Putinistas are the Trots of the alt-right.


I don't want "muh AWB 2.0" though.
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:06 pm

The Kievan People wrote:"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Russia"

This meme is just so bad it melts my brain. Putinistas are the Trots of the alt-right.

But let's be honest, there will be rioting either way.
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Postby The East Marches » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:06 pm

The Kievan People wrote:
The East Marches wrote:I don't know if you noticed, people like the narratives. Trump is a fascist meme is a great one too. Particularly because it echos back to the 2nd World War. It allows people to feel fulfilled like something they've done in their lives matters. Hence the popularity of it despite all evidence to the contrary.


It's certainly better for Democrats than talking about the "Obama economy", let alone Obamacare, or that time they killed Qaddafi, or all the Coal Miners they will put out of work, or common core or... anything concrete really.

Facts lead into unpleasant discussions.


On that note, I fear the continuation of the current economic system. That is to say that we continue to have a lower workforce participation rate and most of the growth going to stocks instead of the real economy. While I do love a fat retirement account, that does me no good if the underlying result is just bubble bullshit. At that point, my numbers on the computer screen become worthless. Those numbers rely on a strong national economy to be worth something. Neither side has offered a solution to solve our structural economic issues other than "build infrastructure". Roads and shit are nice but they are not the ultimate solution we need.
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Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:06 pm

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Nice Jochi, you owe me a new Fanta.

The Fanta Menace.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm in that same boat, I've even had people on this site assume I'm voting Trump because I've defended him before.

Lets just fast forward to 2020

When Emperor Marches officially repeals the 13th Amendment and banishes all the Irish to Kenya.
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Postby WaRtArIa » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:06 pm

The Kievan People wrote:"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Russia"

This meme is just so bad it melts my brain. Putinistas are the Trots of the alt-right.

I prefer not to have a second Cold War.

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Postby Camaalbakrius » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:07 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Nice Jochi, you owe me a new Fanta.

The Fanta Menace.

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm in that same boat, I've even had people on this site assume I'm voting Trump because I've defended him before.

Lets just fast forward to 2020

When Emperor Marches officially repeals the 13th Amendment and banishes all the Irish to Kenya.

No Fanta Menace. Do not trigger my Jar-Jar PTSD
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Postby Nusaresa » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:08 pm

The East Marches wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:
It's certainly better for Democrats than talking about the "Obama economy", let alone Obamacare, or that time they killed Qaddafi, or all the Coal Miners they will put out of work, or common core or... anything concrete really.

Facts lead into unpleasant discussions.


On that note, I fear the continuation of the current economic system. That is to say that we continue to have a lower workforce participation rate and most of the growth going to stocks instead of the real economy. While I do love a fat retirement account, that does me no good if the underlying result is just bubble bullshit. At that point, my numbers on the computer screen become worthless. Those numbers rely on a strong national economy to be worth something. Neither side has offered a solution to solve our structural economic issues other than "build infrastructure". Roads and shit are nice but they are not the ultimate solution we need.

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The Kievan People wrote:"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Russia"

This meme is just so bad it melts my brain. Putinistas are the Trots of the alt-right.

I prefer not to have a second Cold War.

we may get a new technological race tho o:
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:08 pm

As we are drawing near to the 500 page mark, I've taken the liberty of starting a new iteration of this thread.

Which means I get to lock this one. Farewell, sweet thread. Flights of angels and all that malarkey.
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Postby Camaalbakrius » Tue Nov 08, 2016 12:08 pm

Wartaria wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:"A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war with Russia"

This meme is just so bad it melts my brain. Putinistas are the Trots of the alt-right.

I prefer not to have a second Cold War.

A second Civil War is more likely. I'm being serious. There is a genuine possibility for secession
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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:00 pm

Un-it-ed states wrote:The republicans have rigged this election and the devil is going to set up camp in the Oval Office.


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At first I wasn't sure if this was meant as a serious insult or if it was just a joke gone wrong. Without context, and being posted in a thread full of right-wingers, it doesn't seem like it's going to accomplish anything besides offending people. After reading your other posts for context, I'm still mildly confused, but you've made a couple of obnoxious election-related posts and you need to be mindful of how you express yourself.

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