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US Presidential Election Poll - RWDT Edition

Poll ended at Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:10 am

Hillary Clinton
94
25%
Donald Trump
173
46%
Gary Johnson
47
12%
Jill Stein
16
4%
Evan McMullin
20
5%
Darrell Castle
8
2%
Other
20
5%
 
Total votes : 378

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Greater Pareidolia
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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:18 pm

For all and sundry who thinks god is on their side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PX2Z4r-e4
Trump? Clinton? It's like the tagline from Alien vs Predator.
Whoever wins, we lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA

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They call on me by name, you see
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Postby The East Marches » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:21 pm

Greater Pareidolia wrote:For all and sundry who thinks god is on their side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PX2Z4r-e4


Heresy is a crime in RWDT.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:22 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Greater Pareidolia wrote:For all and sundry who thinks god is on their side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PX2Z4r-e4


Heresy is a crime in RWDT.

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Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

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Postby Aelex » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:23 pm

Greater Pareidolia wrote:For all and sundry who thinks god is on their side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PX2Z4r-e4

Ha! Joke's on you because he do was! :p
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Postby The East Marches » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:26 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Heresy is a crime in RWDT.

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Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:29 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Conscentia wrote:If "moral victory" is unattainable, fighting is futile - complete waste of effort, achieves nothing, and invites unnecessary struggle. I cannot see why it'd be important to effectively rub salt in one's own wounds.

That doesn't answer my question. If your fall is inevitable you would be content waiting around for it?

The scenario is insufficiently specific to answer. Waiting to "fall" is not the only conceivable alternative to fighting. Perhaps it is possible to flee, or negotiate, or switch sides. I can only say what I already have - that I don't see the importance of fighting for a "moral victory" that cannot be achieved.

How does turning this on me help to answer my question?
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:31 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:That doesn't answer my question. If your fall is inevitable you would be content waiting around for it?

The scenario is insufficiently specific to answer. Waiting to "fall" is not the only conceivable alternative to fighting. Perhaps it is possible to flee, or negotiate, or switch sides. I can only say what I already have - that I don't see the important of fight for a "moral victory" that cannot be achieved.

How does turning this on me help to answer my question?

Which is?
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:33 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Conscentia wrote:The scenario is insufficiently specific to answer. Waiting to "fall" is not the only conceivable alternative to fighting. Perhaps it is possible to flee, or negotiate, or switch sides. I can only say what I already have - that I don't see the important of fight for a "moral victory" that cannot be achieved.
How does turning this on me help to answer my question?

Which is?

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Conscentia wrote:
The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:Even if moral victory is unattainable, it is still important to fight.

Why?

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:34 pm

The Supreme Magnificent High Swaglord wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
>In his first day of office, Donald Trump would be 70 years, with 7 months and 7 days old
>777

He had it decided a long time ago.


Brittania, I have a question...

what gender, if any, do you identify as?


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I will enjoy the salt come this week.


I believe Kek, the patron deity of a board which must not be named is powering Trump.


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Postby The East Marches » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:35 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Which is?

...
Conscentia wrote:Why?


Unceasing fanaticism can have positive results if employed properly.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.


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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:38 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Which is?

...
Conscentia wrote:Why?

While I cant answer for who you originally asked, my answer is quite literally dependent on what you have to say.
But I'll assume yes in a fight or fall situation simply to provide an answer. If you're going to die anyway why would you wait around for it. Go down fighting at least your last moments would be an act of defiance instead of meaningless acceptance.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Conscentia
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:40 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Conscentia wrote:...

While I cant answer for who you originally asked, my answer is quite literally dependent on what you have to say.
But I'll assume yes in a fight or fall situation simply to provide an answer. If you're going to die anyway why would you wait around for it. Go down fighting at least your last moments would be an act of defiance instead of meaningless acceptance.

Given that the original poster was talking about "moral victory", I don't think they were talking about a literal fight.

Your going down fighting is just as meaningless as acceptance. You still lose.

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Postby Aelex » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:42 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:Unceasing fanaticism can have positive results if employed properly.

Such as?

Conquests. Mostly.
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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:42 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:While I cant answer for who you originally asked, my answer is quite literally dependent on what you have to say.
But I'll assume yes in a fight or fall situation simply to provide an answer. If you're going to die anyway why would you wait around for it. Go down fighting at least your last moments would be an act of defiance instead of meaningless acceptance.

Given that the original poster was talking about "moral victory", I don't think they were talking about a literal fight.

Your going down fighting is just as meaningless as acceptance. You still lose.

Meaningless? Not at all, senseless perhaps in the sense that most violence is. However choosing your end is far better than waiting for it. It gives a choice the last measure of power a person has.
Galloism wrote:Or we can go with feminism doesn't exist. We all imagined it. Collectively.
You can't fight the friction
Women belong in the kitchen
Men belong in the kitchen
Everyone belongs in the kitchen
Kitchen has food
I have brought dishonor to my gaming clan
Achesia wrote:Threads like this is why I need to stop coming to NSG....

Marethian Lupanar of Teladre wrote:A bright and cheerful mountain village of chapel-goers~

The Archregimancy wrote:
Hagia Sophia is best church.

Major-Tom wrote:Why am I full of apathy?

I'm just here to be the peanut gallery
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Postby The East Marches » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:43 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:Unceasing fanaticism can have positive results if employed properly.

Such as?


Victory despite the odds. Plenty of historical examples. Take the above example with Karoliners. They had not a chance in hell but fanaticism evened the odds. Don't underestimate the power of belief.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:43 pm

Aelex wrote:
Greater Pareidolia wrote:For all and sundry who thinks god is on their side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-PX2Z4r-e4

Ha! Joke's on you because he do was! :p

Ha! A Frenchman letting God do the heavy lifting? That reminds me of a certain Cistercian.

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.
Trump? Clinton? It's like the tagline from Alien vs Predator.
Whoever wins, we lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA

When the Devil is too busy
And death's a bit too much
They call on me by name, you see
For my special touch

Don't know where to find me? Try moderation. There's usually a snowflake or two crying to them about me.


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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:47 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Such as?

Victory despite the odds. Plenty of historical examples. Take the above example with Karoliners. They had not a chance in hell but fanaticism evened the odds. Don't underestimate the power of belief.

The original post said that "moral victory" was "unattainable" not 'seemingly unlikely'.

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Postby Aelex » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:47 pm

Greater Pareidolia wrote:Ha! A Frenchman letting God do the heavy lifting Germans slaughter other Germans for our Entertainment ? That reminds me of a certain Cistercian Cardinal.

Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

FTFY.
Also, Louis le Lion did nothing wrong and neither did Richelieu. :p
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Postby Conscentia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:51 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:Meaningless? Not at all, senseless perhaps in the sense that most violence is. However choosing your end is far better than waiting for it. It gives a choice the last measure of power a person has.

Choosing to fight is no more of a choice than choosing to wait.

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Postby Greater Pareidolia » Sun Nov 06, 2016 2:57 pm

Aelex wrote:
Greater Pareidolia wrote:Ha! A Frenchman letting God do the heavy lifting Germans slaughter other Germans for our Entertainment ? That reminds me of a certain Cistercian Cardinal.


FTFY.
Also, Louis le Lion did nothing wrong and neither did Richelieu. :p


Now you're just baiting, you little Napoleon. :D . Is this you?

I'm on the side of the Prussians, anyway.
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Trump? Clinton? It's like the tagline from Alien vs Predator.
Whoever wins, we lose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxJrjV4PNXA

When the Devil is too busy
And death's a bit too much
They call on me by name, you see
For my special touch

Don't know where to find me? Try moderation. There's usually a snowflake or two crying to them about me.

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Postby Camaalbakrius » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:06 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
Heresy is a crime in RWDT.

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DID SOMEONE SAY.... HERESY?!!
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Postby The East Marches » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:24 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:Victory despite the odds. Plenty of historical examples. Take the above example with Karoliners. They had not a chance in hell but fanaticism evened the odds. Don't underestimate the power of belief.

The original post said that "moral victory" was "unattainable" not 'seemingly unlikely'.


I meant it in that sense. They had no chance of victory, their belief in victory changed that. It's about being able to deal and function when staring your certain death in the face. Creating hope out of willpower alone.
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Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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Postby The East Marches » Sun Nov 06, 2016 3:26 pm

Aelex wrote:
Greater Pareidolia wrote:Ha! A Frenchman letting God do the heavy lifting Germans slaughter other Germans for our Entertainment ? That reminds me of a certain Cistercian Cardinal.


FTFY.
Also, Louis le Lion did nothing wrong and neither did Richelieu. :p


I have a man crush on Richelieu. Every Anglo aspires to be his level of perfidious.
Conserative Morality wrote:Move to a real state bud instead of a third-world country that inexplicably votes in American elections.


Novus America wrote:But yes, I would say the mere existence of Illinois proves this is hell. Chicago the 9th circle.

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