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by Nusaresa » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:46 pm
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.
by The East Marches » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:46 pm
New confederate ramenia wrote:The East Marches wrote:
We should strive to avoid going full French revolution. You can't worship reason as a good itself. There must be some grounding in either a higher power or tradition of some sort. The founding fathers knew this.
Elaborate more, how did our founding fathers know and avoid this?
by Conscentia » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:47 pm
The East Marches wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:I prefer the Enlightenment's rationalist ethos to the irrational romantic views of the Raphaelites.
We should strive to avoid going full French revolution. You can't worship reason as a good itself. There must be some grounding in either a higher power or tradition of some sort. The founding fathers knew this.
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by The East Marches » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:49 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The East Marches wrote:
We should strive to avoid going full French revolution. You can't worship reason as a good itself. There must be some grounding in either a higher power or tradition of some sort. The founding fathers knew this.
https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/ ... vative.pdf
by Nusaresa » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:49 pm
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.
by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:51 pm
Conscentia wrote:The East Marches wrote:We should strive to avoid going full French revolution. You can't worship reason as a good itself. There must be some grounding in either a higher power or tradition of some sort. The founding fathers knew this.
A higher power isn't grounded. Tradition is essentially just a pretentious term for habit.
New confederate ramenia wrote:The United Colonies of Earth wrote:ROME NEVER FELL
JUSTINIAN DEFEATED THE BARBARIAN HORDES
LATINITAS VIVIT
HISTORY REWRITTEN
FLAWLESS VICTORY
http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/attachments/romanitas1-png.4558/
what is this shit
by The Liberated Territories » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:52 pm
The East Marches wrote:
I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.
by Nusaresa » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:53 pm
The United Colonies of Earth wrote:
There was a chinese leader who said that people have human rights to infrastructure and a high standard of living before freedom of speech. This reminds me of that.
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.
by Conserative Morality » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:53 pm
The East Marches wrote:
I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.
Mark Twain wrote:THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:54 pm
The East Marches wrote:
I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.
by The East Marches » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:54 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The East Marches wrote:
I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.
It seems more to me that the job was never finished. France exists today as a totalitarian socialist state, American as a totalitarian corporatist state. Both pay lip service to the ideals of the Enlightenment, but have gone in its opposite direction. I agree with Jefferson that the tree of liberty must be from time and time refreshed with the blood of tyrants, and it has been far too long.
by Conscentia » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:54 pm
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by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:56 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The East Marches wrote:
I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.
It seems more to me that the job was never finished. France exists today as a totalitarian socialist state, American as a totalitarian corporatist state. Both pay lip service to the ideals of the Enlightenment, but have gone in its opposite direction. I agree with Jefferson that the tree of liberty must be from time and time refreshed with the blood of tyrants, and it has been far too long.
by The East Marches » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:58 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:The East Marches wrote:
I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.Mark Twain wrote:THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.
by The East Marches » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:00 pm
Conscentia wrote:The East Marches wrote:We should strive to avoid going full French revolution. You can't worship reason as a good itself. There must be some grounding in either a higher power or tradition of some sort. The founding fathers knew this.
A higher power isn't grounded. Tradition is essentially just a pretentious term for habit.
by The United Colonies of Earth » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:01 pm
The East Marches wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:
Mark "I correspond with 12 year olds" Twain. He totally ignores the end outcome of that revolution. A descent into an endless series of coalition wars with the blood tax and authority of Napoleon heaped ever higher upon the necks of the French people. They and threw it all away for nothing in the end.
by Conserative Morality » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:02 pm
The East Marches wrote:Mark "I correspond with 12 year olds" Twain.
He totally ignores the end outcome of that revolution. A descent into an endless series of coalition wars with the blood tax and authority of Napoleon heaped ever higher upon the necks of the French people. They and threw it all away for nothing in the end.
by The Liberated Territories » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:03 pm
The East Marches wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
It seems more to me that the job was never finished. France exists today as a totalitarian socialist state, American as a totalitarian corporatist state. Both pay lip service to the ideals of the Enlightenment, but have gone in its opposite direction. I agree with Jefferson that the tree of liberty must be from time and time refreshed with the blood of tyrants, and it has been far too long.
Then you are idealistic fool who has never suffered the horrors of war nor studied how uncontrolled the outcome is once the iron dice are rolled. For all our faults, the American is still far freer than his European counterparts.
by Nusaresa » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:03 pm
The East Marches wrote:Conserative Morality wrote:
Mark "I correspond with 12 year olds" Twain. He totally ignores the end outcome of that revolution. A descent into an endless series of coalition wars with the blood tax and authority of Napoleon heaped ever higher upon the necks of the French people. They and threw it all away for nothing in the end.
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.
by Conserative Morality » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:05 pm
Nusaresa wrote:w/o french revolution no computers btw
by The Liberated Territories » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:05 pm
by Nusaresa » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:06 pm
Jochizyd Republic wrote:Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.
by Conscentia » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:06 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:The East Marches wrote:I am well aware you support the villains of the French Revolution. Your blind cry for the heads of Kings without realizing what forces you would unleash is disturbing to say the least.
It seems more to me that the job was never finished. France exists today as a totalitarian socialist state, American as a totalitarian corporatist state. Both pay lip service to the ideals of the Enlightenment, but have gone in its opposite direction. I agree with Jefferson that the tree of liberty must be from time and time refreshed with the blood of tyrants, and it has been far too long.
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by The East Marches » Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:06 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:The East Marches wrote:He totally ignores the end outcome of that revolution. A descent into an endless series of coalition wars with the blood tax and authority of Napoleon heaped ever higher upon the necks of the French people. They and threw it all away for nothing in the end.
"All for nothing"
I didn't know changing the face of Europe to such a degree that to this day many European law systems are derived from the standards laid out in the civil code and the bit where absolutist monarchy was rekt in France as well as abroad.
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