US Gen. Election Thread V: The Hunt for Red October Surprise

[Yorkers]

So when President Clinton starts a war with Russia over a desert shithole most Americans don't care about, who here is going to be in the foxholes?

If they get desperate enough for bodies that they're willing to accept me, I'm game to fight for freedom and democracy halfway across the world.

So in other words, "wait until the army has run out of poor rednecks to go die in a far off land, and then towards the end when the fighting is almost over, put me in coach."

[Khadgar]

Fun thing about the Clintons, the most scandalous thing either one of them has ever been proven to do was to get a blowjob. Not for the lack of trying to pin everything since the death of Christ on them.

So they're either the best damned thieves in the history of the universe or they're innocent. Which is more probable?

Though I'm curious why you'd decide to put your dress in a bag for safekeeping.

If a president unloaded on my clothes I'd fucking frame it. That'd be such a story. "I gave the most powerful man in the world a hummer".

[Kravanica]

Pay for play is cool.

A Trump supporter doesn't get to whine about that even if it were true. Donald bragged about pay for play in the primaries. He bribed a Florida attorney general to get her to drop an investigation.

I'm not a Trump supporter but okay.

Also, I will reiterate that saying "bu-bu-but Trump" is not an argument. And since you have no defense and are now deflecting by attacking Trump then I will assume that you have no case and take that as a concession.

Thank you for your time.

[Conserative Morality]

No, it means "important figures who give her money get to have more access to her than those who don't."

Can you prove that? Mathematically, since you've made a greater than/less than statement? Show me that donors to her private foundation had higher access to her than those who don't? Or is it that you see that some of the same people who donate to a very notable charity also ask to meet with Clinton, ignoring that they are also important due to the fact that people who donate to important charities are usually rich and politically active to begin with?

[Gauthier]

Though I'm curious why you'd decide to put your dress in a bag for safekeeping.

If a president unloaded on my clothes I'd fucking frame it. That'd be such a story. "I gave the most powerful man in the world a hummer".

Imagine the bidding war if you put it up for auction.

[Yorkers]

Clinton is clearly neurotic when it comes to foreign policy. Her insistence that we antagonize Russia over things that don't really exist rather than actually cooperate on fighting ISIS is raising tensions to levels not seen since the Cold War.

Trump said he'd like to improve relations with Russia, apparently that makes him a puppet.

If by "improve relations with Russia" you mean "Unilaterally pull out of and dismantle NATO so Putin can have his pick of East European countries to 'join' the Russian Federation with 'fair referendums'."

1. He's not pulling out of NATO, he just wants to renegotiate some provisions of its treaty, because we are obviously getting financially screwed by the current arrangement.

2. Why is Eastern Europe worth a damn to American lives?

[Conserative Morality]

So in other words, "wait until the army has run out of poor rednecks to go die in a far off land, and then towards the end when the fighting is almost over, put me in coach."

tfw I am poor and live in a fairly rural area and wanted to become an Army 11B back when I got out of High School and got rejected from the Air Force after my first semester of college.

[Thermodolia]

What do you mean?

Clinton is clearly neurotic when it comes to foreign policy. Her insistence that we antagonize Russia over things that don't really exist rather than actually cooperate on fighting ISIS is raising tensions to levels not seen since the Cold War.

Trump said he'd like to improve relations with Russia, apparently that makes him a puppet.

I still don't know what any of that has to do with NSG in foxholes

[Yorkers]

I'd honestly trust Putin more than George Soros.

Ex-KGB agents are more trustworthy than liberal millionaires I guess.

When it comes to influencing politics in other countries, the KGB could learn a lot from Soros.

[The Emerald Dawn]

So the next President is going to have to deal with the fact that the Philippine president just announced that he's severing military and economic ties with the US.

Who's better on this?

[Khadgar]

A Trump supporter doesn't get to whine about that even if it were true. Donald bragged about pay for play in the primaries. He bribed a Florida attorney general to get her to drop an investigation.

I'm not a Trump supporter but okay.

Also, I will reiterate that saying "bu-bu-but Trump" is not an argument. And since you have no defense and are now deflecting by attacking Trump then I will assume that you have no case and take that as a concession.

Thank you for your time.

It's amazing how often we get Trump supporters here who won't admit to supporting Trump while cheerleading for Trump.

You admit she's done nothing illegal. You cannot defend the fact that Trump has admitted to doing illegal things and you still contend Hillary would be more scandalous. The only scandals that the Clintons have been involved in have been of the manufactured for faux outrage variety.

[Yorkers]

Clinton is clearly neurotic when it comes to foreign policy. Her insistence that we antagonize Russia over things that don't really exist rather than actually cooperate on fighting ISIS is raising tensions to levels not seen since the Cold War.

Trump said he'd like to improve relations with Russia, apparently that makes him a puppet.

I still don't know what any of that has to do with NSG in foxholes

The point is, Clinton's foreign policy would bring us dangerously close to war with Russia. I wonder how many Clinton supporters on NS are willing to die for non-existent moderate rebels and a vague sense of democracy in the Middle East.

[Khadgar]

So the next President is going to have to deal with the fact that the Philippine president just announced that he's severing military and economic ties with the US.

Who's better on this?

Which of them is less likely to confuse them with Indonesia?

[The Emerald Dawn]

I still don't know what any of that has to do with NSG in foxholes

The point is, Clinton's foreign policy would bring us dangerously close to war with Russia. I wonder how many Clinton supporters on NS are willing to die for non-existent moderate rebels and a vague sense of democracy in the Middle East.

I'm not a Clinton supporter, and I lost my legs for a Neo Con's wet dream.

Your point is what, exactly?

[Kravanica]

No, it means "important figures who give her money get to have more access to her than those who don't."

Can you prove that? Mathematically, since you've made a greater than/less than statement? Show me that donors to her private foundation had higher access to her than those who don't? Or is it that you see that some of the same people who donate to a very notable charity also ask to meet with Clinton, ignoring that they are also important due to the fact that people who donate to important charities are usually rich and politically active to begin with?

For starters companies used Clinton fundraisers to lobby the State Dept.

And here's a fine example.

These are literally in her emails. People know this is true because she said so herself.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

If by "improve relations with Russia" you mean "Unilaterally pull out of and dismantle NATO so Putin can have his pick of East European countries to 'join' the Russian Federation with 'fair referendums'."

1. He's not pulling out of NATO, he just wants to renegotiate some provisions of its treaty, because we are obviously getting financially screwed by the current arrangement.

2. Why is Eastern Europe worth a damn to American lives?

#1 Trump wants to renegotiate everything under the sun. What makes you, or him, think he can get his way? Because it's America, thus America's will is law and the rest of the world will just instantly bow to his demands? The rest of the world might just give a big ol' "fuck you" to America should that disaster sit in the White House.

#2 is what is most irksome to me. This is nationalism at its worse. Human lives matter, whichever country they live in, no matter their nationality, colour, religion, anything. Apparently the only lives that matter to you are American ones, and to hell with everyone else if they're in peril. I am NOT advocating the US should intervene and rescue every country in peril, but to just brush away others lives simply because they aren't Americans is sad.

[Yorkers]

So the next President is going to have to deal with the fact that the Philippine president just announced that he's severing military and economic ties with the US.

Who's better on this?

Imagine all the money we'd save scrapping and selling the military equipment we have in the Philippines.

[Conserative Morality]

So the next President is going to have to deal with the fact that the Philippine president just announced that he's severing military and economic ties with the US.

Who's better on this?

Trump will negotiate the best ties, the greatest ties. Believe him.

Clinton knows what she's doing. I don't like her, I don't trust her, and I don't agree with her, but she's not incompetent and ignorant. Clinton, no question.

[Thermodolia]

If they get desperate enough for bodies that they're willing to accept me, I'm game to fight for freedom and democracy halfway across the world.

So in other words, "wait until the army has run out of poor rednecks to go die in a far off land, and then towards the end when the fighting is almost over, put me in coach."

That's pretty damn insulting on your part

[Kravanica]

I'm not a Trump supporter but okay.

Also, I will reiterate that saying "bu-bu-but Trump" is not an argument. And since you have no defense and are now deflecting by attacking Trump then I will assume that you have no case and take that as a concession.

Thank you for your time.

It's amazing how often we get Trump supporters here who won't admit to supporting Trump while cheerleading for Trump.

You admit she's done nothing illegal. You cannot defend the fact that Trump has admitted to doing illegal things and you still contend Hillary would be more scandalous. The only scandals that the Clintons have been involved in have been of the manufactured for faux outrage variety.

I'm not trying to defend Trump because I think what he did was horrid. Me finding him to be less horrid than her doesn't mean I like him. Try harder.

[Conserative Morality]

Can you prove that? Mathematically, since you've made a greater than/less than statement? Show me that donors to her private foundation had higher access to her than those who don't? Or is it that you see that some of the same people who donate to a very notable charity also ask to meet with Clinton, ignoring that they are also important due to the fact that people who donate to important charities are usually rich and politically active to begin with?

For starters companies used Clinton fundraisers to lobby the State Dept.

And here's a fine example.

These are literally in her emails. People know this is true because she said so herself.

Some of the companies appear to have gotten what they wanted; others did not. The companies, which in several cases provided limited answers to detailed USA TODAY questions, said they had done nothing improper. The charity donations, though questioned by Clinton critics, were all legal.

"We have no record of Secretary Clinton meeting with these individuals as Secretary regarding issues they were lobbying on at the time. The fact remains, Hillary Clinton never took action as Secretary of State because of donations to the Clinton Foundation,” her campaign said.

wow

much wrongdoing

such corrupt

[Yorkers]

1. He's not pulling out of NATO, he just wants to renegotiate some provisions of its treaty, because we are obviously getting financially screwed by the current arrangement.

2. Why is Eastern Europe worth a damn to American lives?

#1 Trump wants to renegotiate everything under the sun. What makes you, or him, think he can get his way? Because it's America, thus America's will is law and the rest of the world will just instantly bow to his demands? The rest of the world might just give a big ol' "fuck you" to America should that disaster sit in the White House.

I don't know if Trump will be able to renegotiate all our arrangements, but the fact that he's even talking about it means he's already better than Clinton.

#2 is what is most irksome to me. This is nationalism at its worse. Human lives matter, whichever country they live in, no matter their nationality, colour, religion, anything. Apparently the only lives that matter to you are American ones, and to hell with everyone else if they're in peril.

Why do you want to start World War III over Estonia?

[Kravanica]

For starters companies used Clinton fundraisers to lobby the State Dept.

And here's a fine example.

These are literally in her emails. People know this is true because she said so herself.

Some of the companies appear to have gotten what they wanted; others did not. The companies, which in several cases provided limited answers to detailed USA TODAY questions, said they had done nothing improper. The charity donations, though questioned by Clinton critics, were all legal.

"We have no record of Secretary Clinton meeting with these individuals as Secretary regarding issues they were lobbying on at the time. The fact remains, Hillary Clinton never took action as Secretary of State because of donations to the Clinton Foundation,” her campaign said.

wow

much wrongdoing

such corrupt

>a statement from her campaign

Someone didn't read the articles and quoted the first thing they saw.

[Gauthier]

So the next President is going to have to deal with the fact that the Philippine president just announced that he's severing military and economic ties with the US.

Who's better on this?

Which of them is less likely to confuse them with Indonesia?

Trump is more likely to start an insult war with Duterte that ultimately ends up with nukes launched at Luzon.

[Conserative Morality]

Why do you want to start World War III over Estonia?

Why do you want to cede the world to Russian domination?