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What is The Biggest, Most Imminent, Geopolitical Threat To The United States?

Russia
33
13%
China
17
7%
North Korea
2
1%
ISIS
13
5%
Climate Change
45
18%
Iran
1
0%
Immigrants/Refugees
12
5%
Domestic Terror
12
5%
Hillary Clinton
46
18%
Donald Trump
75
29%
 
Total votes : 256

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Postby Cymrea » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:08 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Cymrea wrote:I was really hoping for a viable third-party nominee, but neither Johnson nor Stein look terribly sane, let alone presidential. And while they have some interesting ideas, the lack of tight cohesion in their policies renders them disappointingly unviable.

Trump...is an unmitigated - though oft-aggravated - disaster.

So, vote Hillary?

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In Oregon? You could vote Bert/Ernie and the states still going Hillary.

*sigh* Yeah.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:19 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Cymrea wrote:I was really hoping for a viable third-party nominee, but neither Johnson nor Stein look terribly sane, let alone presidential. And while they have some interesting ideas, the lack of tight cohesion in their policies renders them disappointingly unviable.

Trump...is an unmitigated - though oft-aggravated - disaster.

So, vote Hillary?

(Image)

In Oregon? You could vote Bert/Ernie and the states still going Hillary.

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Postby Frank Zipper » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:28 am

More groping allegations against Trump. I wonder if the Ecuadorian Embassy has room for him as well.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:31 am

Frank Zipper wrote:More groping allegations against Trump. I wonder if the Ecuadorian Embassy has room for him as well.

I think they are trying to get rid of the current guest.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:32 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:More groping allegations against Trump. I wonder if the Ecuadorian Embassy has room for him as well.

I think they are trying to get rid of the current guest.

I'm going to be interested in who initially approved his plea for sanctuary. And who may have paid them to do so.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:41 am

Hey, people! What have I missed?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:44 am

Liriena wrote:Hey, people! What have I missed?

Galloism put a lampshade on his head and got naked.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:45 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hey, people! What have I missed?

Galloism put a lampshade on his head and got naked.

He does that every other week, so it's not exactly a once in your lifetime occurrence.


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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:46 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hey, people! What have I missed?

Galloism put a lampshade on his head and got naked.

He wasn't very memorable
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Postby Kravanica » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
Galloism wrote:Interesting tidbit I just thought about.

Clinton wore red to the first debate, blue to the second, and white to the third.

Image
Just sayin', guys.

I'd believe it.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:48 am

Galloism wrote:Interesting tidbit I just thought about.

Clinton wore red to the first debate, blue to the second, and white to the third.


If deliberate, that's actually fairly subtle and clever.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:48 am

Kravanica wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Image
Just sayin', guys.

I'd believe it.

didn't John Oliver do a piece on this? As he has it the whole thing had to be approved by a good doezen or so different government agencies.

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Postby Kravanica » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:50 am

Alvecia wrote:

didn't John Oliver do a piece on this? As he has it the whole thing had to be approved by a good doezen or so different government agencies.

What has American politics come to where people start quoting comedians?
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:50 am

Alvecia wrote:

didn't John Oliver do a piece on this? As he has it the whole thing had to be approved by a good doezen or so different government agencies.

All government agencies are crooked and rigged though, we can't trust them.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:51 am

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Galloism wrote:Interesting tidbit I just thought about.

Clinton wore red to the first debate, blue to the second, and white to the third.


If deliberate, that's actually fairly subtle and clever.

Though I'm pretty surprised that the democrats would be the ones to do that. I've always thought the republicans had the stranglehold on super patriotism
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:52 am

Kravanica wrote:
Alvecia wrote:didn't John Oliver do a piece on this? As he has it the whole thing had to be approved by a good doezen or so different government agencies.

What has American politics come to where people start quoting comedians?

Did you somehow forget about 2008 or 2012?
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Postby Kravanica » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
If deliberate, that's actually fairly subtle and clever.

Though I'm pretty surprised that the democrats would be the ones to do that. I've always thought the republicans had the stranglehold on super patriotism

Well after all the shit they got at the convention for not having any American flags I guess they decided to switch it up.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:52 am

Kravanica wrote:
Alvecia wrote:didn't John Oliver do a piece on this? As he has it the whole thing had to be approved by a good doezen or so different government agencies.

What has American politics come to where people start quoting comedians?

John Oliver wrote:“That is more an insult to the current state of journalism than it is a compliment for the state of comedy.”
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Postby Kravanica » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Kravanica wrote:What has American politics come to where people start quoting comedians?

Did you somehow forget about 2008 or 2012?

Nope.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
If deliberate, that's actually fairly subtle and clever.

Though I'm pretty surprised that the democrats would be the ones to do that. I've always thought the republicans had the stranglehold on super patriotism


Nah, they kind of abandoned that for "America is ruined, we love Putin!"

The Democrats have been going for the American exceptionalism ground since the convention, at least. I'm not entirely happy about that, but since the Republicans gave them an opening...

Guess they couldn't be patriotic about a country run by a black Democrat.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:53 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Liriena wrote:Hey, people! What have I missed?

Galloism put a lampshade on his head and got naked.

:lol:


So... *sniff* I did watch the debate. Clinton deflecting when asked about Wikileaks and the Clinton Foundation was waaaaaaaaaaaay too noticeable. If Trump had not gone full toddler tantrum later on, it would have been a draw at best.
Trump continued to deliver insubstantial answers on pretty much every question, but he still managed to land a few decent hits on her... and then he went off the rails.

And there went Trump's last chance to save his campaign.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:53 am

Kravanica wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Though I'm pretty surprised that the democrats would be the ones to do that. I've always thought the republicans had the stranglehold on super patriotism

Well after all the shit they got at the convention for not having any American flags I guess they decided to switch it up.

If I was allowed to run, I'd just mast a US Flag on the back of my chair. Everywhere I went, Old Glory would be in full furl behind me.

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Postby Kravanica » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:54 am

Alvecia wrote:
Kravanica wrote:What has American politics come to where people start quoting comedians?

John Oliver wrote:“That is more an insult to the current state of journalism than it is a compliment for the state of comedy.”

Geh, he's overrated. He only became so popular because the Prophet Stewart retired and Colbert took over Letterman's show. I almost feel bad for Colbert, though. His ratings are shit and he had to drag Stewart out of retirement to get any attention.
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Postby The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:55 am

Kravanica wrote:
Alvecia wrote:didn't John Oliver do a piece on this? As he has it the whole thing had to be approved by a good doezen or so different government agencies.

What has American politics come to where people start quoting comedians?

Well researched comedians, my friend.

Although, no matter what he found on the other scandals, there's still no excusing the damn Swiss File Transfer.
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There's a lot of reasons, but unloyal citizens isn't the most popular one. It's a fringe notion.

Also "the Latins"... *cringe*
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